"Don't let it burn your spirit, boy!"



"Don't let it burn your spirit, boy"

Welcome to read/rate/steal this RMT!
Ihopeyoudon't juststealtheteam

Well anyway, whatever you will do I should tell little more about this team and why and how I build it

At first I didn't even think about using Chandelure at all, but something like Noivern or Crobat.
I wanted to use something that has Infiltrator and is able to outspeed and revenge kill pokemons behind substitute. I quickly realized that while Crobat and Noivern are fast, but they can't hit very hard as neither have Atk or SpA of over 100. While Noivern could potentially bypass its low attack with moves that have high power but most of them had that something what made me feel like I needed more reliable moves that can be used multiple times.
Then I began searching pokes that that have Infiltrator with either good Atk or SpA . The only pokemon I first noticed that had 100 or more Atk or Spa was Seviper, which I knew wouldn't work very well as a revenge killer thanks to it's 65 Speed. (Revenge killer solely for aegislash maybe?) I then began thinking about using Noivern even though it would mean I'd have to use moves like Hurricane and Boomburst which both have their drawbacks.

Then I saw Chandelure, which got new HA over it's Shadow Tag inform of Infiltrator, along with the unchanged Spa of 145 with now even better STAB coverage, as Steel lost it's resist to Ghost and Dark. It can OHKO 252/4 Shield forme Aegislash with Overheat. It also has 6,25% to OHKO same Aegislash with Fire Blast.

Well how about you get something drink now. I'd want to write more about the idea of the team okay?
What? You don't want to read more? You want me to go for straight to individual pokemons? Then if you want me to go straight to individual pokemons why you are reading this then?

So where we left of. Oh right, I shall now tell you how I began building this team.


1. If you don't know this, shame on you! Anyway, It was Chandelure.

2. I wanted to do something slightly risky, and I think it works really well. I added Hydreigon which is 4x weak to Fairy type.

3. I decided to add a spinner to help Chandelure, and I decided to go for Tentacruel to scare away fairies and at same time annoy with Scald and Toxic

4. At this point I wanted some priority moves here in case of Mega Blaziken. I then tough about 4 good priority users, Scizor, Talonflame, (Mega) Lucario, and Azumarill. At that momemt, I, decided to be a hipster; I chose a Talonflame and it's Gale Wings.

5. I personally wanted to fit a good Fairy type here and I tough about either Mawile or Gardevoir.
I went straight for Gardevoir route when I realized that if I picked Mawile, I would be pretty weak to Ground.

6. I tried added Mienshao for a scout here, but it didn't last too long, enemy spy killed it.

7. I really soon changed Mienshao to Garchomp, which has worked way better than Mienshao.


Well I think it's time to now individual pokes.


Naturally I'll start with

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Oh you tough I would start with Chandelure?, Not so fast there buddy ^^.

Garchomp @ Assault Vest
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Poison Jab

With Assault Vest Garchomps can take some hits really well with its 108/95/85 defenses. Otherwise this is generic almost generic Garchomp set excluding the wild Poison Jab at the bottom. I might replace it with something different, but at least it allows Garchomp to hit Fairy and Grass types harder without locking itself to Outrage.

Next pokemon in line is...

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Wrong picture

Let me fix it ok?

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Now it is better.

Hydreigon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Atk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- U-turn

Oh! Look! More Assault Vests are inbound!
Okay but seriously, that Assault Vest has SAVED me multiple times. It allows Hydreigon to survive a Focus Blast from Mega Gengar, while it OHKO's it with reliable Dark Pulse. Draco Meteor, well it is Draco Meteor. I use if i'm either going to sack hydreigon or I need that raw power of it to kill a pokemon. Fire Blast is for Steel types and U-turn is used to get out of the battle before Dedenne kills it.


For a next trick, I shall make you... oh wrong line, anyway. NEXT!

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Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball

It's a CM gardevoir, more specifically CM Mega Gardevoir. Trace is quite important, as it gives more possibilities to switch in. EV's are straight forwards Max Speed and SpA. Psychic and Moonblast
are obviously for coverage... I mean for STABs and Shadow Ball is for coverage. Not much to say. Does it's job well.

I'll add the tentacruel here,

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Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 240 Def / 252 HP / 16 Spd
Bold Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Sludge Bomb
- Toxic

The almost standard Tentacruel, Rapid Spin is used to remove the hazards, which it is able to quite often, Scald and Sludge Bomb are for STAB's and Scald has that nice 30% to burn the opponent. Toxic is used over Toxic Spikes, as most teams I face have at least 2-3 pokemon that are unaffected by it.

And now, the hipster

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I told you!

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Tailwind

Talonflame might be overrated pokemon, but it's still hipster.
Sharp Beak is for bluffing Choice items, Brave Bird and Flare Blitz are must have for every hipster. U-turn in case Talonflame doesn't feel hipster enough and Tailwind is last turn move of ultimate hipsternes (that's not real word, right?)

Finally the star of the team

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I didn't want you to shit your pants so this image is more than enough

Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Overheat

This was the first pokemon in the team and I want you to remember this set, so I decided to introduce it as the last. Okay I'm starting to regret this choice, but nvm that.

Chandelure's High Spa and decent speed with Scarf allows it to outspeed quite many big threats, and whats better than hitting them behind their substitutes with Fire Blast or Overheat? Ofc OHKOing them while at but still. Shadow Ball is for STAB and Energy Ball is for coverage. I have told you enough about this chandelure but still it can OHKO 252/4 Shield stance Aegislash with Overheat and has small chance to do so with Fire Blast too.

Chandelure @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball
- Overheat

Hydreigon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Atk
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- U-turn

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
EVs: 240 Def / 252 HP / 16 Spd
Bold Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Scald
- Sludge Bomb
- Toxic

Talonflame @ Sharp Beak
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-turn
- Tailwind

Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball

Garchomp @ Assault Vest
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Poison Jab

Wow this is quite long, I hope you listened to me and went to get something to drink.​
 
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First of all, very nice team. I have some small changes to make, without completely changing your team. Let's get to it, shall we?

First of all, unless you really hate Grass Types, Iron Head is better over Poison Jab for Mammoswine switch ins, as well as Avalugg (Note, it won't kill a healthy one), as well as the rare Weavile. Actually, don't stay in on any Ice Type but Abomasnow. XD

Secondly, I really think U-Turn is bad on Hydriegon. Instead, use Flash Cannon to cover it's harsh Fairy Weakness. And consider a Life Orb or an Expert Belt over Assault Vest.

Next, use Hyper Voice over Moonblast on Gardevoir, because of Pixilate in Mega Form, Hyper Voice is so much stronger.

In addition, use Acrobatics and a Flying Gem on Talonflame. Consider Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, Acrobatics, and U-Turn or Roost over Tailwind and Brave Bird. Acrobatics with a Flying Gem is almost as strong as Brave Bird, but you don't have that nasty recoil. Trust me, almost everyone I know is using Acrobatics!

The last thing I have to say is how much of a good idea I think it is for you to have two Fire STABS on Chandelure. It's similar to my Specs Heatran, only I have Flamethrower and Overheat, not Fire Blast and Overheat. I know you have both in case you need the power, vs a reliable spamable move. I suggest you test out Flamethrower, because Fire Blast, at least for me, always misses.

I hope that I helped out. My name is Daniel, I'm on Showdown as Avarice13, and I am voiced in the OU Chatroom. If you ever need help, I, as well as the other voices and mods, will be more than happy to help you out with all things Pokemon! Much Ludvisc!
 
You forgot your tentacruel analysis. I was seeing a major water issue before that. Which still, a poke carrying ice and water is going to run your team through after tenta dies. Which basically means every water poke in existence has the possibility to knock out 4 of your 6 in two turns.

Agree with hyper voice, but not so much flash cannon. While it isn't bad by any means and you're hitting the two types that you're weak to for SE, either way it won't really bother florges who is the tier 1 ou fairy. Even less so to the offensive fairy, azumarill, who's second typing of water protects them. You'll have to switch out after hitting the pokes, so you lose momentum every time. I think u-turn has a nice niche to give you pivot against incoming fairies that are immune to a hydregon nuke. Realistically, although it isn't mentioned, hydregion fills in as a wall breaker, kind of same as chandy. My only question is, are you being redundant here?

If you played 5th gen, you know hydreigon was the top notch wall breaker, smashing holes in everything. Chandy with infiltrator is now another great wall/tank breaker. (Before, he was a very good one). Talonflame serves as a sweeper and chomp can probably do the same given a shot. The issue is, the whole team lacks a clear sweeper in my eyes. It probably is talonflame, but you have an issue with longevity for talon, being no roost and limited spin support.

But tailwind isn't a sweeper's move unless they're running some sash set, and you are going to have rocks up 90% of the time it comes in. Also, you have recoil moves with no recovery. That thing has no ability to sweep anything but the most shamefully weak teams. I STRONGLY suggest roost over uturn. With tentacruel, you have some leniency, but as soon as tenta is down or on the timer, consider talonflame to be the same. A 4x rock weak pokemon cannot be a intricate part to any team because if it has to come out more than twice, it is most certainly dead.

Edit: If you're looking for me, I'm generally with Avarice in the OU showdown room under the name AjTheEpic or any three word version of Aj(SomethingSomething). Besides AjTheSteak, that should also be avarice.
 
First of all, very nice team. I have some small changes to make, without completely changing your team. Let's get to it, shall we?

First of all, unless you really hate Grass Types, Iron Head is better over Poison Jab for Mammoswine switch ins, as well as Avalugg (Note, it won't kill a healthy one), as well as the rare Weavile. Actually, don't stay in on any Ice Type but Abomasnow. XD Note that this isn't Pokebank OU team.

Secondly, I really think U-Turn is bad on Hydriegon. Instead, use Flash Cannon to cover it's harsh Fairy Weakness. And consider a Life Orb or an Expert Belt over Assault Vest. I prefer Assault Vest as most guys don't see it coming, and it allows Hydreigon to take Focus Blast from Base 170 Spa, which alone is something I like more than extra damage.

Next, use Hyper Voice over Moonblast on Gardevoir, because of Pixilate in Mega Form, Hyper Voice is so much stronger. Note that this isn't Pokebank OU team.

In addition, use Acrobatics and a Flying Gem on Talonflame. Consider Swords Dance, Flare Blitz, Acrobatics, and U-Turn or Roost over Tailwind and Brave Bird. Acrobatics with a Flying Gem is almost as strong as Brave Bird, but you don't have that nasty recoil. Trust me, almost everyone I know is using Acrobatics! Note that this isn't Pokebank OU team.

The last thing I have to say is how much of a good idea I think it is for you to have two Fire STABS on Chandelure. It's similar to my Specs Heatran, only I have Flamethrower and Overheat, not Fire Blast and Overheat. I know you have both in case you need the power, vs a reliable spamable move. I suggest you test out Flamethrower, because Fire Blast, at least for me, always misses. I was going to first use Fire Blast and Trick over Overheat, but I noticed that it is unable to do so currently, so Fire Blast stayed.

I hope that I helped out. My name is Daniel, I'm on Showdown as Avarice13, and I am voiced in the OU Chatroom. If you ever need help, I, as well as the other voices and mods, will be more than happy to help you out with all things Pokemon! Much Ludvisc!


You forgot your tentacruel analysis. I was seeing a major water issue before that. Which still, a poke carrying ice and water is going to run your team through after tenta dies. Which basically means every water poke in existence has the possibility to knock out 4 of your 6 in two turns. Hydreigon's and Garchomp's Assault Vest allow me to play around some Water and Ice type Moves
252 SpA Choice Specs Rotom-W Hydro Pump vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 195-229 (54.46 - 63.96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Kyurem-W Ice Beam vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 306-360 (93.86 - 110.42%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO (
Just for show)
252 SpA Gengar Focus Blast vs. +1 4 HP / 0 SpD Hydreigon: 234-276 (71.77 - 84.66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (SpA modified and I know this isn't Water or Ice type move)


Agree with hyper voice, but not so much flash cannon. While it isn't bad by any means and you're hitting the two types that you're weak to for SE, either way it won't really bother florges who is the tier 1 ou fairy. Even less so to the offensive fairy, azumarill, who's second typing of water protects them. You'll have to switch out after hitting the pokes, so you lose momentum every time. I think u-turn has a nice niche to give you pivot against incoming fairies that are immune to a hydregon nuke. Realistically, although it isn't mentioned, hydregion fills in as a wall breaker, kind of same as chandy. My only question is, are you being redundant here? Chandy is more like off a revenge killer than wall breaker, chandy also acts as a late game cleaner, with it's scarf. I don't feel it as a redundant thing, but I can understand why some might feel it that way.

If you played 5th gen, you know hydreigon was the top notch wall breaker, smashing holes in everything. Chandy with infiltrator is now another great wall/tank breaker. (Before, he was a very good one). Talonflame serves as a sweeper and chomp can probably do the same given a shot. The issue is, the whole team lacks a clear sweeper in my eyes. It probably is talonflame, but you have an issue with longevity for talon, being no roost and limited spin support. The pokemon I mostly sweep with is Garchomp, Talonflame can also sweep, but I usually need it to be as close to full health as possible, so I can kill of potential threats with Prio Brave Bird or just smash them with Flare Blitz

But tailwind isn't a sweeper's move unless they're running some sash set, and you are going to have rocks up 90% of the time it comes in. Also, you have recoil moves with no recovery. That thing has no ability to sweep anything but the most shamefully weak teams. I STRONGLY suggest roost over uturn. With tentacruel, you have some leniency, but as soon as tenta is down or on the timer, consider talonflame to be the same. A 4x rock weak pokemon cannot be a intricate part to any team because if it has to come out more than twice, it is most certainly dead. I have tried Roost on Talonflame on my previous teams, I simply didn't have time to use it, I personally find U-turn and Tailwind better. I know that Talonflame is 4x weak to rocks, so I tend to avoid using it and protecting it until I can be 100% sure that there won't be rocks up. It isn't possible all the time, so if rocks are up and tenta is down, I'll usually let Talonflame act as my second revenge killer, and sacrifice it after it revenge killed a opponents pokemon, for obvious reasons.

Edit: If you're looking for me, I'm generally with Avarice in the OU showdown room under the name AjTheEpic or any three word version of Aj(SomethingSomething). Besides AjTheSteak, that should also be avarice.
 
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