DPP Gliscor (Stallbreaker)

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I'd like to replace the current "Lead" set in the analysis with this, since it is very effective outside the lead position as well. I spoke with twash and we think this is a better variant on the "Substitute Staller" on site as well, since the only real use for Sub is to prevent Gliscor from being statused really, which Taunt achieves a lot better. I think this combines both the substitute staller and the lead set well while still differentiating itself from the other sets (there are lots of redundant sets there right now >_>) and can replace them both when it goes up.

Also, suggestions for a better name are welcome.



http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gliscor

[SET]
name: Stallbreaker
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn / Toxic / Stealth Rock
item: Leftovers
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set aims to take full advantage of several of Gliscor's strengths - its relatively high Speed, bulk, and access to Taunt and instant recovery - and combine them to make Gliscor a great asset against stall teams. Once Taunted, the number of defensive Pokémon who find themselves unable to touch Gliscor at all is startlingly high. Blissey cannot hurt Gliscor significantly unless it has Ice Beam, and once Taunted to prevent it from poisoning Gliscor or healing, will easily be outlasted or forced out by the combination of Earthquake and Roost. Likewise, with most Hippowdon opting for Roar over Ice Fang, Gliscor can prevent it from phazing or recovering and chip away at it with its own Earthquake, while being immune to Hippowdon's.</p>

<p>Many other defensive Pokémon find themselves in a similarly helpless position against Gliscor. Skarmory and Forretress will be unable to phaze or set up Spikes, and the latter will be beaten one on one by Earthquake. Gliscor makes an excellent switch-in to Celebi as well, since Gliscor is immune to Thunder Wave and Grass Knot hits it for a paltry 60 base power. In return, Gliscor prevents it from recovering and can then U-turn out for the 4x super effective hit or the advantageous switch. Defensive Tentacruel is outsped and easily taken out by Earthquake if it has taken prior damage or has switched into Stealth Rock more than once.</p>

<p>Earthquake, Taunt, and Roost are the bread and butter of the set, and by cycling through them Gliscor can outlast many physically inclined Pokémon. U-turn in the last slot capitalizes on the many switches Gliscor causes by Taunting its foes, and so allows the user to gain the advantageous switch as the opponent brings in another Pokémon. Toxic can be used to stall out many of the Pokémon who cannot be touched by Earthquake, such as Rotom-A, Ice Beam-less Cresselia, and opposing Gliscor. Taunt prevents them from getting rid of the status or healing, as well as from trying to status Gliscor as well. A Jolly nature is recommended to guarantee Gliscor outspeeds Lucario and Heracross, as well as the majority of Jirachi. It also means that Gliscor can safely U-turn against opposing Gyarados and Suicune without the fear of being outsped and attacked by +Speed ones. However, an Impish nature does increase Gliscor's survivability significantly, and, if you feel you need Gliscor to take hits a bit better at the cost of its Speed, is always an option. This Gliscor set also makes for a very effective lead, with the ability to Taunt the slower users of Stealth Rock, such as Hippowdon and Metagross, while setting up its own. If you are using Gliscor in a lead position, it is recommended that you give it 88 Atk EVs to guarantee the 2HKO on max HP Metagross with Earthquake, which can be taken from Defense and then HP. Getting Stealth Rock up early on in the game is highly beneficial as well, and so it is a good choice over U-turn for leading Gliscor.</p>

<p>With the ability to take on the majority of a stall team almost single-handedly, Gliscor can fit into both balanced and defensive teams quite easily, especially those in need of a little insurance against Swords Dance Lucario or Heracross. It partners up with Tyranitar very well for several reasons. Firstly, Tyranitar provides permanent sandstorm with its ability, which activates Gliscor's Sand Veil and makes it even more of a pain to take down. Secondly, by Taunting the likes of Rotom and Blissey to prevent them from using crippling status moves, Gliscor can easily U-turn to Tyranitar and leave these Pokémon as easy pickings for a Choice Band Pursuit. And with its bolstered Special Defense, Tyranitar doesn't mind switching into weak Ice attacks all that much. In return, Gliscor provides a valuable Fighting resistance and Ground immunity for Tyranitar. Tentacruel is an excellent choice of partner as well, since it has a high Special Defense and resistance to the Water and Ice attacks Gliscor so fears, while Gliscor has useful immunities to Ground and Electric. By setting up Toxic Spikes on the opponent's side of the field, Tentacruel makes Gliscor's job of stalling out its foes with Roost even easier, especially when the foe cannot use Rest to rid themselves of the poison.</p>

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Also have done a revamp for the standard Defensive set, clearing up the clutter a bit, making it a bit more relevant to today's metagame, and adding some team support options.

[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Roost
move 3: Stealth Rock / Knock Off
move 4: Stone Edge / Aerial Ace
item: Leftovers
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Gliscor has just the right base stats, movepool, and typing for what it needs to do: counter many physical attackers and support the team at the same time. Its STAB Earthquake 2HKOes Tyranitar and OHKOes Lucario, and also does a decent amount to most fragile switch ins. The instant recovery provided by Roost is of great use to a Pokémon with Gliscor's bulk and relatively high Speed, and helps keep it alive for the entire duration of the battle. It also allows Gliscor to shed its Flying-type for a turn, giving it a valuable resistance to Rock, which can be used to stall out a Choice Band Tyranitar's Stone Edge quite easily. However, be careful about Roosting against Fighting-types, as Close Combat can do a big chunk to Gliscor while it doesn't resist it.</p>

<p>Gliscor gets plenty of opportunities to support the team by setting up Stealth Rock, and as such, is one of the better users of the move. However, if you have another Pokémon to set up Stealth Rock elsewhere in your team, Knock Off can be of great use as well in helping to deal with sweepers that rely on their items to do significant amounts of damage. For example, without a boosting item, Tyranitar's Crunch will only manage a maximum of 36% against Gliscor, and so Gliscor can come into a Crunch, Knock Off the Choice Band, and then survive to Roost up to greater health. Similarly, Scizor's Bullet Punch doesn't hurt nearly as much without a Choice Band or a Life Orb boosting it, dealing only 24% damage on average. Stone Edge and Aerial Ace are both options for use as a secondary attack alongside Earthquake. Stone Edge is generally the better option, as it gets better coverage with Earthquake than Aerial Ace does, and can be used to get a solid hit on Gyarados, Zapdos, and Salamence switch ins. Aerial Ace can be used to specifically deal with Breloom and Heracross, both of whom resist Earthquake, and also allows Gliscor to get some damage on Celebi.</p>

<p>216 Speed EVs allow Gliscor to outspeed all non-Choice Scarf Heatran and neutral natured Lucario. This is of particular importance when trying to counter the latter, as Lucario may carry Ice Punch to deal with Gliscor. Jolly Lucario still outspeeds Gliscor, but Adamant is usually the nature of choice for the Swords Dancer, so unless the rest of the team has severe difficulty with Lucario, Impish Gliscor usually suffices.</p>

<p>Most Water-types partner up well with Gliscor, providing resistances to its Water and Ice weaknesses, while also drawing in Electric attacks to give it free switch ins. Vaporeon has a high Special Defense stat to make up for Gliscor's lackluster Special Defense, and it helps deal with the only Fighting-type that Gliscor cannot take on reliably - Infernape. Suicune can make the most of the Stealth Rock laid by Gliscor by utilizing Roar to shuffle the opposing team around and spread residual damage. While Tyranitar doesn't resist Ice and shares a common Water weakness with Gliscor, it is naturally very bulky and its sandstorm bolstered Special Defense can take weak special attacks without too much trouble. More important is the evasion boost Tyranitar's Sand Stream provides for Gliscor, which also helps by wearing down many of Gliscor's common switch ins.</p>
 
this is a badass set, i saw LR use it well earlier!

I'd like to replace the current 'Lead' set in the analysis with this, since it is very effective outside the lead position as well. Also, suggestions for a better name are welcome.



http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gliscor

[SET]
name: Stallbreaker
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Taunt
move 3: Roost
move 4: U-turn / Stealth Rock
item: Leftovers
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Jolly
evs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set aims to take full advantage of several of Gliscor's strengths - its relatively high Speed, bulk, and access to Taunt and instant recovery - and combine them to make Gliscor a great asset against stall teams. Once Taunted, the number of defensive Pokémon which find themselves unable to touch Gliscor at all is startingly high. Blissey cannot hurt Gliscor significantly unless it has Ice Beam, and once Taunted to prevent it from healing or poisoning Gliscor, it will be easily outlasted or forced out by the combination of Earthquake and Roost. Likewise, with most Hippowdon opting for Roar over Ice Fang, Gliscor can prevent it from phazing or recovering and beat it with Earthquake quite easily, while being immune to Hippowdon's.</p>

<p>Many other defensive Pokémon find themselves in a similarly helpless position against Gliscor. Skarmory and Forretress will be unable to phaze or set up Spikes, and the latter will be beaten one on one by Earthquake. Gliscor makes an excellent switch-in for Celebi as well, since Gliscor is immune to Thunder Wave and Grass Knot hits it for a paltry 60 base power. In return, Gliscor prevents it from recovering and can then U-turn out for the 4x super effective hit or the advantageous switch. Defensive Tentacruel is outsped and easily taken out by Earthquake if it has taken prior damage or has switched into Stealth Rock more than once.</p>

<p>Earthquake, Taunt, and Roost are the bread and butter of the set, and by cycling through them Gliscor can outlast many physically inclined Pokémon. U-turn in the last slot capitalizes on the many switches Gliscor causes by Taunting its foes, and so allows the user to gain the advantageous switch as the opponent brings in another Pokémon. A Jolly nature is recommended to guarantee Gliscor outspeeds Lucario and Heracross, as well as the majority of Jirachi. It also means that Gliscor can safely U-turn against opposing Gyarados and Suicune without the fear of being outsped and attacked by +Speed ones. However, an Impish nature does increase Gliscor's survivability significantly, and, if you feel you need Gliscor to take hits a bit better at the cost of its Speed, is always an option. This Gliscor set also makes for a very effective lead, with the ability to Taunt the slower users of Stealth Rock, such as Hippowdon and Metagross, while setting up its own. If you are using Gliscor in the lead position, it is recommended that you give it 88 Atk EVs to guarantee the 2HKO on max HP Metagross with Earthquake. These EVs can be taken from Defense and then HP.</p>

<p>With the ability to take on the majority of a stall team almost single-handedly, Gliscor can fit into both balanced and defensive teams quite easily, especially those in need of a little insurance against Swords Dance Lucario or Heracross. It partners up well with Tyranitar very well for several reasons. Firstly, Tyranitar provides permanent sandstorm with its ability, which activates Gliscor's Sand Veil and makes it even more of a pain to take down. By Taunting the likes of Rotom and Blissey to prevent them from using crippling status moves, Gliscor can easily U-turn to Tyranitar and leave these Pokémon as easy pickings for a Choice Band Pursuit. And with its bolstered Special Defense, Tyranitar doesn't mind switching into weak Ice attacks all that much. In return, Gliscor provides a valuable Fighting resistance and Ground immunity for Tyranitar. Tentacruel is an excellent choice of partner as well, since it has a high Special Defense and resistance to the Water and Ice attacks Gliscor so fears, while Gliscor has useful immunities to Ground and Electric. By setting up Toxic Spikes on the opponent's side of the field, Tentacruel makes Gliscor's job of stalling out its foes with Roost even easier, especially when the foe cannot use Rest to rid themselves of the poison.</p>
 

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As long as this is replacing the lead set, there should be mention of how this set functions as a lead, both with and without Stealth Rock (since getting rocks up early is really important!). Stealth Rock should probably be discussed as an option over U-turn somewhere anyway.
 
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<p>With the ability to take on the majority of a stall team almost single-handedly, Gliscor can fit into both balanced and defensive teams quite easily, especially those in need of a little insurance against Swords Dance Lucario or Heracross. It partners up well with Tyranitar very well for several reasons. First, Tyranitar provides permanent sandstorm with its ability, which activates Gliscor's Sand Veil and makes it even more of a pain to take down. Second, by Taunting the likes of Rotom and Blissey to prevent them from using crippling status moves, Gliscor can easily U-turn to Tyranitar and leave these Pokémon as easy pickings for a Choice Band Pursuit. And with its bolstered Special Defense, Tyranitar doesn't mind switching into weak Ice attacks all that much. In return, Gliscor provides a valuable Fighting resistance and Ground immunity for Tyranitar. Tentacruel is an excellent choice of partner as well, since it has a high Special Defense and resistance to the Water and Ice attacks Gliscor so fears, while Gliscor has useful immunities to Ground and Electric. By setting up Toxic Spikes on the opponent's side of the field, Tentacruel makes Gliscor's job of stalling out its foes with Roost even easier, especially when the foe cannot use Rest to rid themselves of the poison.</p>
I like it. It's just like the OU version of the UU crobat lead set, except that gliscor is more bulky and has access to earthquake which can hurt popular OU leads like metagross and heatran. Not to mention it has the ability to lay down rocks.
 
<p>This set aims to take full advantage of several of Gliscor's strengths - its relatively high Speed, bulk, and access to Taunt and instant recovery - and combine them to make Gliscor a great asset against stall teams. Once Taunted, the number of defensive Pokémon who find themselves unable to touch Gliscor at all is startingly high. Blissey cannot hurt Gliscor significantly unless it has Ice Beam, and once Taunted to prevent it from healing or poisoning Gliscor, it will be easily outlasted or forced out by the combination of Earthquake and Roost. Likewise, with most Hippowdon opting for Roar over Ice Fang, Gliscor can prevent it from phazing or recovering and beat it with Earthquake quite easily, while being immune to Hippowdon's own STAB.</p>
Who is the preffered term when talking about Pokemon.
The second change isn't at all required, however I felt like adding it would be optimal to avoid confusion (plus I don't think it really messes with the sentence).

<p>Many other defensive Pokémon find themselves in a similarly helpless position against Gliscor. Skarmory and Forretress will be unable to phaze or set up Spikes, and the latter will be beaten one on one by Earthquake. Gliscor makes an excellent switch-in to Celebi as well, since Gliscor is immune to Thunder Wave and Grass Knot hits it for a paltry 60 base power. In return, Gliscor prevents it from recovering and can then U-turn out for the 4x super effective hit or the advantageous switch. Defensive Tentacruel is outsped and easily taken out by Earthquake if it has taken prior damage or has switched into Stealth Rock more than once.</p>
to>for imo

<p>Earthquake, Taunt, and Roost are the bread and butter of the set, and by cycling through them Gliscor can outlast many physically inclined Pokémon. U-turn in the last slot capitalizes on the many switches Gliscor causes by Taunting its foes, and so allows the user to gain the advantageous switch as the opponent brings in another Pokémon. A Jolly nature is recommended to guarantee Gliscor outspeeds Lucario and Heracross, as well as the majority of Jirachi. It also means that Gliscor can safely U-turn against opposing Gyarados and Suicune without the fear of being outsped and attacked by +Speed ones. However, an Impish nature does increase Gliscor's survivability significantly, and, if you feel you need Gliscor to take hits a bit better at the cost of its Speed, is always an option. This Gliscor set also makes for a very effective lead, with the ability to Taunt the slower users of Stealth Rock, such as Hippowdon and Metagross, while setting up its own. If you are using Gliscor in a lead position, it is recommended that you give it 88 Atk EVs to guarantee the 2HKO on max HP Metagross with Earthquake. These EVs can be taken from Defense and then HP.</p>
a>the in a similar vein

And I've also seen this set used; it was amazing and I'm definetly going to try it!
 

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Thanks for the suggestions, I've taken them all into account. Also, OP has been updated with a bit more.
 
This was very well written. I only have a few nitpicks, one of which was made because I think it makes the sentence flow better.

<p>This set aims to take full advantage of several of Gliscor's strengths - its relatively high Speed, bulk, and access to Taunt and instant recovery - and combine them to make Gliscor a great asset against stall teams. Once Taunted, the number of defensive Pokémon who find themselves unable to touch Gliscor at all is startlingly high. Blissey cannot hurt Gliscor significantly unless it has Ice Beam, and once Taunted to prevent it from healing itself or poisoning Gliscor, it will be easily outlasted or forced out by the combination of Earthquake and Roost. Likewise, with most Hippowdon opting for Roar over Ice Fang, Gliscor can prevent it from phazing or recovering and chip away at it with its own Earthquake, while being immune to Hippowdon's.</p>

<p>Most Water-types partner up well with Gliscor, providing resistances to its Water and Ice weaknesses, while also drawing in Electric attacks to give it free switch ins. Vaporeon has a high Special Defense stat to make up for Gliscor's lackluster Special Defense, and it helps deal with the only Fighting-type that Gliscor cannot take on reliably - Infernape. Suicune can make the most of the Stealth Rock laid by Gliscor by utilizing Roar to shuffle the opposing team around and spread residual damage. While Tyranitar doesn't resist Ice and shares a common Water weakness with Gliscor, it is naturally very bulky and its sandstorm bolstered Special Defense can take weak special attacks without too much trouble. More important is the evasion boost Tyranitar's Sand Stream provides for Gliscor, which also helps by wearing down many of Gliscor's common switch ins.</p>
 

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and once Taunted to prevent it from healing or poisoning Gliscor
should be reordered to "from poisoning Gliscor or healing" otherwise it's a dangling modifier, i could change it myself but wanted to point it out ffr

edit: even with the edit above it it not clear which pokemon "itself" is referring to
 

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