Duel at high noon! Engineer Pikachu vs. waterwarrior! (reffed by Flamestrike)

[Flamestrike]

Two men enter the ASB Arena. Two men out for blood, and out for revenge (well okay actually they're out for counters but close enough). Only one will leave alive, the other will die in a pool of his own blood, lost in the annals of time... Okay fine they'll both leave alive and well, just that one of them (maybe both of them) will have a fainted Pokemon. There, all the drama is ruined. Happy? Anyway, here are the rules!

1v1 FE Singles
3 Substitutions
48 Hour DQ
100 Mega Evolutions
Switch: OK
All Abilities
Items On
Infinite chills / Recovers

Two interesting notes here: First, despite being a 1v1 it's Switch=OK, which means stuff like U-Turn and Whirlwind will function differently! Secondly, each side gets three substitutions instead of the usual two! I wonder how this will affect the game? Now then, first up we have Engineer Pikachu and his Colossoil, Kujira!

Kujira the Colossoil @ EXP Share

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
NATR: Hasty (+15% Speed, +14% [13.91%] Acc, -1 Def)

TYPE: Dark / Ground
ABILITIES: Rebound, Guts, Pressure (DW)

STATS: 133 / 122 / 72 / 71 / 72 / 95

HP: 120
Atk: ***** (5)
Def-: ** (2)
SpA: *** (3)
SpD: *** (3)
Spe+: 110 (95 * 1.15)

SC: 5
WC: 10
BRT: 22

EC: 6 / 6
MC: 4
DC: 5 / 5

ATTACKS [83]:
Bite
Body Slam
Bounce
BubbleBeam
Crunch
Dark Pulse
Dig
Drill Run
Horn Attack
Horn Drill
Leer
Magnitude
Megahorn
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Muddy Water
Peck
Pursuit
Rapid Spin
Rototiller
Spit Up
Stockpile
Swallow
Tackle

Dive
Double-Edge
Encore (#)
Fake Out (#)
Fire Fang
Fissure
Flail
Sand Tomb
Sucker Punch
Thunder Fang
Water Spout (#)

Aqua Tail
Earth Power
Foul Play
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Snatch
Snore
Superpower

Attract
Brick Break
Bulldoze
Double Team
Dragon Tail
Earthquake (#)
Echoed Voice
Embargo
Facade
Frustration
Giga Impact
Hyper Beam
Payback
Poison Jab
Protect
Quash
Rain Dance
Rest
Retaliate
Return
Roar
Rock Slide
Rock Smash
Rock Tomb
Round
Sandstorm
Sludge Bomb
Sludge Wave
Smack Down
Snarl
Stone Edge
Strength
Substitute
Sunny Day
Swagger
Taunt (#)
Thief
Toxic
U-turn

Endure
Sleep Talk

Looks like Kujira conveniently came pre-equipped with an Exp. Share, so we won't have to waste time with that! As for waterwarrior, he's brought his Froslass, Wispmother!

Wispmother the Froslass

Froslass (Wispmother) Female
Type: Ice/Ghost
Nature: Modest (+1 SpA, -1 Atk)

Abilities: Snow Cloak/ Cursed Body (Unlocked)

Stats:
HP: 100
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110
Size Class: 3
Weight Class: 3
Base Rank Total: 19

EC: 6/6
MC: 0
AC: 5/5

Attacks: (58/ 80 total moves)
Physical:
Astonish
Avalanche
Bide
Bite
Crunch
Headbutt
Ice Fang
Ice Punch
Ice Shard
Sucker Punch

Special:
Blizzard
Frost Breath
Hex
Hidden Power Fire
Hyper Beam
Ice Beam
Icy Wind
Mid-slap
Ominous Wind
Powder Snow
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Shock Wave
Signal Beam
Thunder
Thunderbolt
Weather Ball

Status:
Attract
Block
Confuse Ray
Destiny Bond
Disable
Double Team
Embargo
Endure
Fake Tears
Flash
Hail
Leer
Light Screen
Pain Split
Protect
Psych Up
Rest
Safeguard
Sleep Talk
Snatch
Spikes
Spite
Substitute
Swagger
Taunt
Telekinesis
Thunder Wave
Torment
Toxic
Trick

At a glance it seems like Engineer has the edge, especially with waterwarrior ordering first, but it'll be interesting to see if that holds true! Now then, two men enter, one man leaves (with a KOC)! Here we go!

waterwarrior, you're up!

 

[waterwarrior]

Surprise surprise same actions as the other one

Blizzard -> Ice Beam -> Blizzard
If Sucker Punch, Confuse Ray the first time, Disable (Sucker Punch) the second, and Blizzard the third
If damaging evasive move with suspension, change the following action to Substitute (15)
If successful P/E move, Hail the first time and Double Team (2 clones) the second

 

[Engineer Pikachu]

Bulldoze – Dig – Dig

 

[Flamestrike]

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 120
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 100
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: 100
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110
Energy: 100
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body

And here we go! Both Pokemon are evenly matched in Speed, but Kujira just barely manages to get out her Bulldoze before Wispmother can strike! It's a decent hit, but more importantly the hit drops Wispmother's Speed, guaranteeing that in the future Kujira will strike first! However, Wispmother is ready to attack immediately after and fires off a massive Blizzard! But oh no! The attack missed! A really tough break there! Kujira, hoping to further her early advantage, burrows underground, and it works out as an Ice Beam comes flying at her from Wispmother not long after! Of course the attack misses because Kujira is underground, and then she quickly comes out of the ground to strike with Dig before burrowing underground once again! Poor Wispmother is trying her hardest, and fires off another Blizzard, but once again the Colossoil is too fast for the Froslass and the attack misses, and then of course Kujira comes back up and nails Wispmother with one final Dig attack, ending the round with a massive advantage. Can waterwarrior come back from this or has Engineer engineered an insurmountable lead?

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 120
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 74
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: 60
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (62 w/ -1)
Energy: 80
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body
-1 Speed

Calculations

Action 1:
Kujira used Bulldoze
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 9181 (no crit)
-> RNG roll for Cursed Body (1-3000 to disable) -> 7426 (no disable)
6[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.] = 12 damage, 4 energy, Wispmother's Speed dropped by 1 stage
Wispmother used Blizzard
-> RNG roll to hit (1-7000 to hit) -> 9500 (miss)
Missed, 7 energy

Action 2:
Kujira burrowed underground!
Wispmother used Ice Beam -> missed, 6 energy
Kujira used Dig
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 8872 (no crit)
-> RNG roll for Cursed Body (1-3000 to disable) -> 4971 (no disable)
8[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.] = 14 damage, 9 energy

Action 3:
Kujira burrowed underground!
Wispmother used Blizzard -> missed, 7 energy
Kujira used Dig
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 4958 (no crit)
-> RNG roll for Cursed Body (1-3000 to disable) -> 5129 (no disable)
8[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.] = 14 damage, 9 + 4[CME] = 13 energy

Kujira -> -26 energy
Wispmother -> -40 HP, -20 energy

Engineer Pikachu, you're up!

 

[Engineer Pikachu]

this feels somewhat similar

Taunt – Knock Off – Crunch
IF (Nonconsecutive Protective / Evasive Action on Taunt) THEN (Use Sandstorm the first time, Stockpile the second, push actions back)
IF (Noncombination Ice-Type Damaging Attack NOT Avalanche) THEN (Use Bounce the first time, Dig the second and third times, push actions back)

it should be worth noting that i've used my third substitution via a NOT on a move substitution

 

[waterwarrior]

Eeeehhh yes and no. Yes, it is two substitutions, but no because, saying as you didn't actually create a different clause for avalanche, they read "If non-combination Ice-type damaging attack, then use Bounce the first time, Dig the second and third times, push actions back" and "If Avalanche, use Bounce the first time, Dig the second and third times, push actions back" because "If Avalanche" isn't a sub on its own

And if I am wrong this is both a learning experience and who cares I already lost

Avalanche x3

 

[Flamestrike]

We chatted about it on IRC for a while and we decided that while there may or may not be a way to write your sub legally, between the fact that NOT substitutions in move substitutions are expressly forbidden and the fact that it's difficult to impossible to tell what the sub priority is between the second and third subs (the sub needs to be "If Avalanche don't change orders" then "If damaging Ice move do x, the other way around the Avalanche sub never triggers, we decided the whole sub is illegal. Feel free to argue it later. Also waterwarrior you technically never equipped an item, but I'm going to assume you'll retroactively equip an Exp. Share. If you actually wanted to not equip anything then I'll reduce Knock Off's power accordingly.

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 120
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 74
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: 60
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (62 w/ -1)
Energy: 80
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body
-1 Speed

Wispmother? More like Critmother ._. Two crits (and almost a third!) on three attacks let the Froslass do some massive damage, but Kujira keeps plugging away and now Wispmother is on her last legs (metaphorically speaking because she doesn't actually have legs, but you know what I mean).

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 52
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 54
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure
Knock Off disabled (5 actions)

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: 15
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (62 w/ -1)
Energy: 45
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body
Taunted (3 actions)

Calculations

Action 1:
Kujira used Taunt -> 9 energy, Wispmother taunted for 6 actions
Wispmother used Avalanche
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 231 (crit)
(6[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Crit]) * 1.5[SE] = 18 damage, 7 energy

Action 2:
Kujira used Knock Off
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 4366 (no crit)
-> RNG roll for Cursed Body (1-3000 to disable) -> 808 (disabled)
(10[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.]) * 1.5[SE] = 24 damage, 6 energy, Wispmother's Exp. Share knocked away, Knock Off disabled for 6 actions
Wispmother used Avalanche
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 15 (crit x_x)
(12[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Crit]) * 1.5[SE] = 27 damage, 7 + 4[CME] = 11 energy

Action 3:
Kujira used Crunch
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 1129 (no crit)
-> RNG roll to drop Defense (1-2000 to drop) -> 5647 (no drop)
(8[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.]) * 1.5[SE] = 21 damage, 5 energy
Wispmother used Avalanche
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 654 (no crit but fuck ._.)
(12[BAP] + 3[STAB]) * 1.5[SE] = 22.5 damage, 7 + 8[CME] = 15 energy

Kujira -> -67.5, rounded to 68 HP, -20 energy
Wispmother -> -45 HP, -35 energy

waterwarrior, you're up!

 

[waterwarrior]

Yeah, Exp. Share, dumb dumb dumb. Also grawr so close to actually having a chance

Frost Breath x3
If in the evasive stage of a DE move when you would attack, Avalanche
If Sucker Punch, Ice Shard

 

[Engineer Pikachu]

In regards to substitution ordering, it would depend on how order was defined, but yes: by default ordering having the Avalanche substitution under the Damaging Ice-type Attack substitution would result in a substitution that could never be triggered. I feel like the "expressly forbidden" part about using NOT in move substitutions was written in regards to using only one substitution, though, given that my second substitution could be written as two separate completely legal substitutions. Indeed, I'm not sure how else you would interpret "IF (Ice-type Damaging Attack NOT Avalanche)" other than the set of Ice-type Damaging Attack with the element Avalanche taken out; that's the only way the NOT operator works, after all.

I still hold that my substitution should be legal for the reasons stated above, but given his orders it makes zero difference. At least some discussion was generated :) hopefully I can make some revisions in the future.

Crunch – Crunch – Crunch

 

[Flamestrike]

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 52
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 54
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure
Knock Off disabled (5 actions)

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: 15
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (62 w/ -1)
Energy: 45
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body
Taunted (3 actions)

One final Crunch is all it takes for Kujira to knock out the Froslass and win the match for Engineer!

Congratulations Engineer Pikachu!

Colossoil (Kujira) (F)
HP: 32
Atk: Rank 5
Def: Rank 2 (-)
SpA: Rank 3
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (+14%)
Energy: 45
Abilities: Rebound, Guts, Pressure
Knock Off disabled (4 actions)

Froslass (Wispmother) (F)
HP: KO
Atk: Rank 2 (-)
Def: Rank 3
SpA: Rank 4 (+)
SpD: Rank 3
Spe: 110 (62 w/ -1)
Energy: KO
Abilities: Snow Cloak, Cursed Body

Calculations

Action 1:
Wispmother used Frost Breath
-> RNG roll to hit (1-9000) -> 1670 (hit)
(6[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 1.5[Stat Dif.] + 3[Crit]) * 1.5[SE] = 20.25 damage, 5 energy
Kujira used Crunch
-> RNG roll to crit (1-625 to crit) -> 4764 (no crit)
-> RNG roll to drop Defense (1-2000 to drop) -> 6016 (no drop)
(8[BAP] + 3[STAB] + 3[Stat Dif.]) * 1.5[SE] = 21 damage, 5 + 4[CME] = 9 energy, Wispmother KOed

Kujira -> -20.25, rounded to 20 HP, -9 energy
Wispmother -> -21 HP, -5 energy

Rewards:
Engineer Pikachu -> 1 CC
Kujira the Colossoil -> 4 MC, 1 KOC
waterwarrior -> 1 CC
Wispmother the Froslass -> 4 MC
Me -> 3 UC

Good game guys!