LC Elgyem

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[OVERVIEW]
Although it resists Fighting and has decent bulk, Elgyem has difficulty differentiating itself from Spritzee, an overall better offensive Trick Room user. Possessing a weakness to Knock Off and Sucker Punch is detrimental for Elgyem, especially compared to Spritzee’s resistance to Dark, and having to resort to Hidden Power to hit said Dark-types diminishes Elgyem’s offensive presence. Becoming Pursuit trapped by Pokemon such as Alolan Grimer is also annoying for Elgyem. Even Solosis, although it's not viable either, is better than Elgyem in performing this role due to Magic Guard and a higher Special Attack stat. While Elgyem is a better check to Abra than Spritzee and Analytic is quite a useful ability to for it to have, its ability works against itself under Trick Room, and Elgyem's strengths pale in comparison to the overwhelming number of advantages Spritzee has over it as an offensive Trick Room setter.


[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fighting
item: Eviolite
ability: Analytic
nature: Quiet
evs: 236 HP / 240 SpA
ivs: 0 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Elgyem should try to set up with Nasty Plot by coming in on something that it can force out such as Abra or Croagunk and then set up Trick Room, utilizing its Eviolite and decent bulk to survive any single hit. Still, Solosis and Spritzee are much better at performing this role, as Solosis has a higher Special Attack stat and access to Magic Guard to use Life Orb with, and Spritzee has a much better typing and physical bulk that allows for it to more reliably set up Nasty Plot and sweep than Elgyem.


- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454]]
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- Grammar checked by: [[P Squared, 168392]]
 
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Mention that getting Pursuit trapped is detrimental.
You should mention defensive qualities of Spritzee instead of its offensive nature, since it can handle Knock Off and other Dark-type attacks fairly better.

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SET COMMENTS
Mention that Spritzee can also make use of Nasty Plot in combination with its defensive traits better than Elgyem.
 
overview: mention that elgyem is a better abra check
set: 0 speed ivs
comments: mention abra as something else to set up on. you don't need to specify special gunk here
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Mention that Solosis kinda does its whole thing better and is still bad in the overview.
Mention that Analytic doesn't work as well with TR as you'd hope.

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[OVERVIEW]
Although it resists Fighting and has decent bulk, Elgyem has difficulty differentiating itself from Spritzee, an overall better offensive Trick Room user. Possessing a weakness to Knock Off and Sucker Punch is detrimental for Elgyem, especially compared to Spritzee’s resistance to Dark, and having to resort to Hidden Power to hit said Dark-types diminishes Elgyem’s offensive presence. Becoming Pursuit trapped by Pokemon such as Alolan Grimer is also annoying for Elgyem. Even Solosis, although it's not viable either, is better than Elgyem in performing this role due to Magic Guard and a higher Special Attack stat. While Elgyem is a better check to Abra than Spritzee and Analytic is quite a useful ability to for it to have, its ability works against itself under Trick Room, and Elgyem's strengths pales in comparison to the overwhelming number of advantages Spritzee has over it as an offensive Trick Room setter.

[SET]
name: Offensive Trick Room
move 1: Trick Room
move 2: Nasty Plot
move 3: Psychic
move 4: Hidden Power Fighting
item: Eviolite
ability: Analytic
nature: Quiet
evs: 236 HP / 240 SpA
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Elgyem should try to set up with Nasty Plot by coming in on something that it can force out such as Abra or Croagunk and then set up Trick Room, utilizing its Eviolite and decent bulk to live survive any single hit. Still, Solosis and Spritzee are much better at performing this role, as Solosis has a higher Special Attack stat and access to Magic Guard to use Life Orb with, and Spritzee has a much better typing and physical bulk that allows for it to more reliably set up Nasty Plot and sweep than Elgyem.

- Written by: [[Aaronboyer, 239454]]
- Quality checked by: [[tahu, 107567], [Xayah, 167012]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]][/QUOTE]
 

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