Gen 1 Exeggutor (Stadium OU Mini) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

[Mikon]

[OVERVIEW]

Despite the nerfs sleep suffered in Stadium, Exeggutor is a staple in the Stadium OU metagame because of its great bulk and unique typing. Useful resistances to Ground, Psychic, and Electric allow it to wall a myriad of common threats and make use of Rest to remain healthy long-term. Its longevity allows it to support its team throughout the game by spreading paralysis with Stun Spore and threatening foes with its powerful STAB Psychic backed up by its impressive Special. Exeggutor's access to Explosion also provides it with wallbreaking utility.

Exeggutor is saddled with a weakness to the common Ice-type moves in the metagame, most of which will reliably 3HKO it. Its subpar Speed generally forces it to take a hit before it is able to move, allowing it to be worn down more easily. While Exeggutor can use Rest effectively, it makes it passive for two turns and gives opportunities for Pokemon that can threaten it to switch in. Exeggutor also has little offensive coverage, meaning that, if it chooses to drop Explosion, it can be walled itself.

[SET]
name: Rest
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Stun Spore
move 3: Double-Edge / Explosion
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]
Psychic deals considerable damage to anything that is not Psychic-type and does not have massive special bulk, and it comes with a respectable 33% chance to drop the target's Special stat. Stun Spore cripples threats, but note that it is blocked by Substitute. Double-Edge is an incredibly useful move that can pressure Chansey, Alakazam, and their Substitutes, which is ideal, as its recoil damage doesn't apply when it scores a KO or breaks a Substitute. Breaking their Substitutes prevents them from setting up Substitute again and gives Exeggutor an opportunity to land Stun Spore when they're forced to recover. Furthermore, Double-Edge also deals more damage to enemy Exeggutor than Psychic can, allowing it to wear it down and force its Rest more quickly. Pressuring other Exeggutor and Chansey into using their recovery moves lets you switch out to a teammate that can threaten them. Explosion can be run over Double-Edge to let Exeggutor trade for a Pokemon on the opposing team and allow a teammate to switch in. However, it is risky, because Rhydon is common and takes little damage from it, and Explosion KOes Exeggutor when it hits a Substitute in Stadium. Finally, Rest heals Exeggutor and wipes off paralysis and the Speed loss that comes with it, keeping enemy Exeggutor, Alakazam, Rhydon, Jolteon, Snorlax, and others in check long term. Be aware that using Rest gives offensive threats like Starmie, Zapdos, and Snorlax an opportunity to switch in and apply pressure.

Exeggutor makes a potent lead choice in Stadium OU to status common leads like other Exeggutor, Chansey, and Snorlax and scout for Substitute on Alakazam with Double-Edge. In addition, leads that can threaten Exeggutor like Jynx are rare in Stadium OU. Later on, care should be taken if Exeggutor is paralyzed; though it can remove the status with Rest, Pokemon like Snorlax and Rhydon have an easier time putting pressure on Exeggutor, especially if they are behind a Substitute, as it will then not be able to paralyze them. Exeggutor should generally stick to the moves listed above, but it does have other options. Sleep Powder puts a foe to sleep, but it's a shadow of its former self in Stadium; it cannot hit Pokemon behind a Substitute, sleep is limited to 0-3 turns, and Rest is counted under Sleep Clause, making it useless if one of the opponent's Pokemon is sleeping from Rest. Mega Drain hits Starmie, Slowbro, and Rhydon while letting Exeggutor recover some HP in the process. Unfortunately, it is blocked by Substitute and does little damage to most other Pokemon. Egg Bomb is an alternative to Double-Edge that never causes recoil damage, but it's held back by its shaky accuracy. Hyper Beam has a surprise factor and will KO Chansey at 40%, but it's undesirable, as Exeggutor will always have to recharge after using it in Stadium.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ctown6, 509438], [Oiseau Bleu, 431020]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

 

[Plague von Karma]

Since I gave some info to Ctown I may as well share a couple of things here too;

• A big weakness Exeggutor has is that it's usually having to take a hit before it can do anything, so even with Rest it can be surprisingly easy to wear down in some situations. Could be worth adding to the weaknesses section.
• It may be worth noting somewhere that Exeggutor has a surprising amount of trouble dealing with Rhydon in this meta. Substitute really screws with it, especially Mega Drain builds.
• Double-Edge pressures Substitute really well, as the recoil doesn't apply when the Substitute is KOed. If you're fighting SubZam or something, they can't set up. It's very powerful. Explosion ends up removing this benefit entirely in exchange for letting allies in, be it to revenge kill the weakened Pokemon or set up a lead-like situation.
• Note that Rest has an element of risk to it, as many Pokemon can switch in on its Rest and try to force progress.
• I don't know if Mimic should be on the analysis, seems a bit sacky when there's so many other options on this beast. Substitute could also be cut for similar reasons. You could maybe add Leech Seed instead but it may be too based.

Kinda just spitballing here, and some of it may be obvious, but yeah.

 

[Mikon]

Since I gave some info to Ctown I may as well share a couple of things here too;

• A big weakness Exeggutor has is that it's usually having to take a hit before it can do anything, so even with Rest it can be surprisingly easy to wear down in some situations. Could be worth adding to the weaknesses section.
• It may be worth noting somewhere that Exeggutor has a surprising amount of trouble dealing with Rhydon in this meta. Substitute really screws with it, especially Mega Drain builds.
• Double-Edge pressures Substitute really well, as the recoil doesn't apply when the Substitute is KOed. If you're fighting SubZam or something, they can't set up. It's very powerful. Explosion ends up removing this benefit entirely in exchange for letting allies in, be it to revenge kill the weakened Pokemon or set up a lead-like situation.
• Note that Rest has an element of risk to it, as many Pokemon can switch in on its Rest and try to force progress.
• I don't know if Mimic should be on the analysis, seems a bit sacky when there's so many other options on this beast. Substitute could also be cut for similar reasons. You could maybe add Leech Seed instead but it may be too based.

Kinda just spitballing here, and some of it may be obvious, but yeah.

Added your thoughts; I didn't put Leech Seed in as that's questionable. Certain things like Rest having a risk were already on the analysis but I've went into more detail on it.

Pushing this to QC

 

[Ctown6]

[OVERVIEW]

Despite the nerfs Sleep suffered in Stadium, Exeggutor is a staple in the Stadium OU metagame because of its great bulk and unique typing that grants it useful resistances to Ground-, Psychic-, and Electric-type moves that allow it to wall a myriad of common threats (maybe an example of what common threats it walls, mainly zam, jolt without pin missle, and Rhydon/golem if egg is un-statused, also a bit nit picky but I feel like myriad is the wrong word as a lot of common threats pack coverage for it. Maybe instead “allows it to wall key targets such as—“and make use of Rest to remain healthy long-term. Its longevity allows it to support its team throughout the game by spreading Paralysis with Stun Spore and threatening opponents with its powerful STAB Psychic backed up by its impressive Special. Exeggutor's access to Explosion also provides it with wallbreaking utility that can open a hole in the opponent's team.

Exeggutor is saddled with a weakness to the common Ice-type moves in the metagame, and most Pokemon that carry them can reliably 3HKO it. (I think the previous sentence can be expanded on, a few examples of what caries ice type coverage which is everything lol but starmie and Chans are the big ones)Its subpar Speed generally forces it to take a hit before it is able to move,(again maybe just a benchmark of how slow it is, faster than chansey which is nice but slower than cloyster, there may be a better benchmark but just an example) allowing it to be worn down more easily. While Exeggutor can use Rest effectively, it makes Exeggutor passive for two turns and gives opportunities for Pokemon that can threaten it to switch in. Exeggutor has little offensive coverage, meaning that if it chooses to drop Explosion it can be walled itself.( I think a quick mention of while it does wall electrics zap destroys this thing with drill peck and if it’s a jolt with pin missle it can also be dangerous. would be a good mention in this paragraph)

[SET]
name: Rest
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Stun Spore
move 3: Double-Edge / Explosion
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]

Psychic deals considerable damage to anything that is not Psychic-type (I think a mention of smacking Tauros and Lax for 3hkos could go here)
and does not have massive special bulk, and comes with a respectable 33% chance to drop the target's Special stat. Stun Spore allows Exeggutor to cripple threats with paralysis, but note that it is blocked by Substitute. (while it’s just obvious information to us I think a mention of stun spore paralyzing ground types could go here) Double-Edge is an incredibly useful move that pressures other Exeggutor, Chansey, and Alakazam. Forcing Rest and Soft-Boiled from other Exeggutor and Chansey gives the Exeggutor user a chance to switch out to a teammate that can threaten them. Double-Edge also OHKOs Substitutes from Chansey and Alakazam, preventing them from setting up and giving Exeggutor an opportunity to land Stun Spore on them when they're forced to recover. Exeggutor will not take recoil from Double-Edge when it destroys a Substitute or scores a KO. Explosion can be ran over Double-Edge to give Exeggutor the option to trade for a Pokemon on the opposing team and allow a teammate to switch in. However, it can only be used once, is ineffective against Rock- or Ghost-types like Rhydon or the rare Gengar, and Exeggutor will still faint if Explosion hits a Substitute in Stadium. Finally, Exeggutor can use Rest to restore itself to full HP and wipe off paralysis and the speed loss that comes with it, keeping enemy Exeggutor, Alakazam, Rhydon, Jolteon, Snorlax, and others in check long term. Be aware that using Rest gives offensive threats like Starmie, Zapdos, and Snorlax an opportunity to switch in and apply pressure.

Exeggutor makes a potent lead choice in Stadium OU thanks to its ability to put status on common leads like other Exeggutor, Chansey, and Snorlax, and being able to scout for Substitute on Alakazam (emphasis that zam is the big reason. Egg handles it better than any other and is a big reason why it’s such a good lead, iirc it wasn’t too long ago zam was the gold standard)with Double-Edge. Later on, care should be taken if Exeggutor is paralysed; though it can remove the status with Rest, Pokemon like Snorlax and Rhydon have an easier time putting pressure on Exeggutor, especially if they are behind a Substitute, as Exeggutor will not be able to paralyse them. Exeggutor should generally stick to the moves listed above, but it does have other options. Sleep Powder puts a foe to sleep, but it's a shadow of its former self in Stadium; it cannot hit Pokemon behind a Substitute, Sleep is limited to 0-3 turns, and Rest is counted under Sleep clause, making it useless if one of the opponent's Pokemon are already sleeping. Mega Drain hits Starmie, Slowbro, and Rhydon, while letting Exeggutor recover some HP in the process. Unfortunately, it is blocked by Substitute and does little damage to most other Pokemon. Egg Bomb is an alternative to Double-Edge that never causes recoil damage, but it's held back by its shaky accuracy. Hyper Beam has a surprise factor and will KO Chansey at 40%, but it's undesirable as Exeggutor will always have to recharge after using it.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[name, id], [name, id]]
- Grammar checked by: [[name, id]]

the only other things I think I’ll mention is you should add somewhere that jynx is much much less used, and this helps a lot for egg especially for when you chose it as a lead come team preview.

Also when you’re talking about double edge, you mention all the information you need to as well as good examples but I think it could be cleaned up a little with the wording. Unfortunately Iwould do the same thing and lack the ability to tell you how itcould be fixed, so maybe it’s something that can be saved for GP.



nice job:)
QC 1/2

 

[Mikon]

the only other things I think I’ll mention is you should add somewhere that jynx is much much less used, and this helps a lot for egg especially for when you chose it as a lead come team preview.

Also when you’re talking about double edge, you mention all the information you need to as well as good examples but I think it could be cleaned up a little with the wording. Unfortunately Iwould do the same thing and lack the ability to tell you how itcould be fixed, so maybe it’s something that can be saved for GP.



nice job:)
QC 1/2

Implemented

 

[Oiseau Bleu]

I have nothing more to say :) gj
QC 2/2

 

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite the nerfs sleep suffered in Stadium, Exeggutor is a staple in the Stadium OU metagame because of its great bulk and unique typing. (added period) that grants it Useful resistances to Ground-, Psychic-, and Electric-type moves that Ground, Psychic, and Electric allow it to wall a myriad of common threats and make use of Rest to remain healthy long-term. Its longevity allows it to support its team throughout the game by spreading paralysis with Stun Spore and threatening opponents foes with its powerful STAB Psychic backed up by its impressive Special. Exeggutor's access to Explosion also provides it with wallbreaking utility that can open a hole in the opponent's team.

Exeggutor is saddled with a weakness to the common Ice-type moves in the metagame, and most Pokemon that carry them can most of which will reliably 3HKO it. Its subpar Speed generally forces it to take a hit before it is able to move, allowing it to be worn down more easily. While Exeggutor can use Rest effectively, it makes it passive for two turns and gives opportunities for Pokemon that can threaten it to switch in. Exeggutor also has little offensive coverage, meaning that, (AC) if it chooses to drop Explosion, (AC) it can be walled itself.

[SET]
name: Rest
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Stun Spore
move 3: Double-Edge / Explosion
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]
Psychic deals considerable damage to anything that is not Psychic-type and does not have massive special bulk, and it comes with a respectable 33% chance to drop the target's Special stat. Stun Spore allows Exeggutor to cripple threats with paralysis, cripples threats, but note that it is blocked by Substitute. Double-Edge is an incredibly useful move that can pressure Chansey, Alakazam, and their Substitutes, which is ideal, (AC) as its recoil damage doesn't apply when it scores a KO. It KO or breaks a Substitute. Breaking their Substitutes (I assume this makes sense?) prevents them from setting up Substitute again and gives Exeggutor an opportunity to land Stun Spore on them when they're forced to recover. Furthermore, Double-Edge also deals more damage to enemy Exeggutor than Psychic can, allowing it to wear it down and force its Rest more quickly. Pressuring other Exeggutor and Chansey into using their recovery moves gives the Exeggutor user a chance to lets you switch out to a teammate that can threaten them. Explosion can be ran run over Double-Edge to give Exeggutor the option to let Exeggutor trade for a Pokemon on the opposing team and allow a teammate to switch in. However, it can only be used once, is ineffective against Rock- or Ghost-types like Rhydon or the rare Gengar, and Exeggutor will still faint if Explosion is risky, especially because Rhydon is common, and KOes Exeggutor when it (I imagine this makes sense?) hits a Substitute in Stadium. Finally, Exeggutor can use Rest to restore itself to full HP Rest heals Exeggutor and wipes off paralysis and the Speed loss that comes with it, keeping enemy Exeggutor, Alakazam, Rhydon, Jolteon, Snorlax, and others in check long term. Be aware that using Rest gives offensive threats like Starmie, Zapdos, and Snorlax an opportunity to switch in and apply pressure.

Exeggutor makes a potent lead choice in Stadium OU thanks to its ability to put status on to status common leads like other Exeggutor, Chansey, and Snorlax (RC) and being able to scout for Substitute on Alakazam with Double-Edge. In addition, leads that can threaten Exeggutor like Jynx are rare in Stadium OU. Later on, care should be taken if Exeggutor is paralyzed; though it can remove the status with Rest, Pokemon like Snorlax and Rhydon have an easier time putting pressure on Exeggutor, especially if they are behind a Substitute, as it will then not be able to paralyze them. Exeggutor should generally stick to the moves listed above, but it does have other options. Sleep Powder puts a foe to sleep, but it's a shadow of its former self in Stadium; it cannot hit Pokemon behind a Substitute, sleep is limited to 0-3 turns, and Rest is counted under Sleep Clause, making it useless if one of the opponent's Pokemon are already sleeping. is sleeping from Rest. Mega Drain hits Starmie, Slowbro, and Rhydon (RC) while letting Exeggutor recover some HP in the process. Unfortunately, it is blocked by Substitute and does little damage to most other Pokemon. Egg Bomb is an alternative to Double-Edge that never causes recoil damage, but it's held back by its shaky accuracy. Hyper Beam has a surprise factor and will KO Chansey at 40%, but it's undesirable, (AC) as Exeggutor will always have to recharge after using it in Stadium.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ctown6, 509438], [Oiseau Bleu, 431020]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

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[Mikon]

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[OVERVIEW]

Despite the nerfs sleep suffered in Stadium, Exeggutor is a staple in the Stadium OU metagame because of its great bulk and unique typing. (added period) that grants it Useful resistances to Ground-, Psychic-, and Electric-type moves that Ground, Psychic, and Electric allow it to wall a myriad of common threats and make use of Rest to remain healthy long-term. Its longevity allows it to support its team throughout the game by spreading paralysis with Stun Spore and threatening opponents foes with its powerful STAB Psychic backed up by its impressive Special. Exeggutor's access to Explosion also provides it with wallbreaking utility that can open a hole in the opponent's team.

Exeggutor is saddled with a weakness to the common Ice-type moves in the metagame, and most Pokemon that carry them can most of which will reliably 3HKO it. Its subpar Speed generally forces it to take a hit before it is able to move, allowing it to be worn down more easily. While Exeggutor can use Rest effectively, it makes it passive for two turns and gives opportunities for Pokemon that can threaten it to switch in. Exeggutor also has little offensive coverage, meaning that, (AC) if it chooses to drop Explosion, (AC) it can be walled itself.

[SET]
name: Rest
move 1: Psychic
move 2: Stun Spore
move 3: Double-Edge / Explosion
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]
Psychic deals considerable damage to anything that is not Psychic-type and does not have massive special bulk, and it comes with a respectable 33% chance to drop the target's Special stat. Stun Spore allows Exeggutor to cripple threats with paralysis, cripples threats, but note that it is blocked by Substitute. Double-Edge is an incredibly useful move that can pressure Chansey, Alakazam, and their Substitutes, which is ideal, (AC) as its recoil damage doesn't apply when it scores a KO. It KO or breaks a Substitute. Breaking their Substitutes (I assume this makes sense?) prevents them from setting up Substitute again and gives Exeggutor an opportunity to land Stun Spore on them when they're forced to recover. Furthermore, Double-Edge also deals more damage to enemy Exeggutor than Psychic can, allowing it to wear it down and force its Rest more quickly. Pressuring other Exeggutor and Chansey into using their recovery moves gives the Exeggutor user a chance to lets you switch out to a teammate that can threaten them. Explosion can be ran run over Double-Edge to give Exeggutor the option to let Exeggutor trade for a Pokemon on the opposing team and allow a teammate to switch in. However, it can only be used once, is ineffective against Rock- or Ghost-types like Rhydon or the rare Gengar, and Exeggutor will still faint if Explosion is risky, especially because Rhydon is common, and KOes Exeggutor when it (I imagine this makes sense?) hits a Substitute in Stadium. Finally, Exeggutor can use Rest to restore itself to full HP Rest heals Exeggutor and wipes off paralysis and the Speed loss that comes with it, keeping enemy Exeggutor, Alakazam, Rhydon, Jolteon, Snorlax, and others in check long term. Be aware that using Rest gives offensive threats like Starmie, Zapdos, and Snorlax an opportunity to switch in and apply pressure.

Exeggutor makes a potent lead choice in Stadium OU thanks to its ability to put status on to status common leads like other Exeggutor, Chansey, and Snorlax (RC) and being able to scout for Substitute on Alakazam with Double-Edge. In addition, leads that can threaten Exeggutor like Jynx are rare in Stadium OU. Later on, care should be taken if Exeggutor is paralyzed; though it can remove the status with Rest, Pokemon like Snorlax and Rhydon have an easier time putting pressure on Exeggutor, especially if they are behind a Substitute, as it will then not be able to paralyze them. Exeggutor should generally stick to the moves listed above, but it does have other options. Sleep Powder puts a foe to sleep, but it's a shadow of its former self in Stadium; it cannot hit Pokemon behind a Substitute, sleep is limited to 0-3 turns, and Rest is counted under Sleep Clause, making it useless if one of the opponent's Pokemon are already sleeping. is sleeping from Rest. Mega Drain hits Starmie, Slowbro, and Rhydon (RC) while letting Exeggutor recover some HP in the process. Unfortunately, it is blocked by Substitute and does little damage to most other Pokemon. Egg Bomb is an alternative to Double-Edge that never causes recoil damage, but it's held back by its shaky accuracy. Hyper Beam has a surprise factor and will KO Chansey at 40%, but it's undesirable, (AC) as Exeggutor will always have to recharge after using it in Stadium.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[Ctown6, 509438], [Oiseau Bleu, 431020]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

1/1

Implemented these changes, with some clarifications made to the risks of Explosion

 

[Plague von Karma]

This has been uploaded. Fantastic work!