Ferroseed (Update) [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

[Komodo]

[Overview]

<p>Besides the fact that it looks like a nasty durian fruit, Ferroseed is one of the most useful Pokemon in the RU tier. With a total of 10 resistances, an immunity to Poison-type attacks, and only two weaknesses, Ferroseed is a tough nut to crack. That's not all; thanks to its NFE status, Ferroseed can utilize Eviolite to bolster its defenses to unimaginable levels. Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Leech Seed are only three great moves in its arsenal; novelties such as Thunder Wave, Gravity, and Gyro Ball are also available, but offer less in terms of team support. Ferroseed's only sticking point is its relatively low HP stat and lack of reliable recovery outside of Leech Seed. Don't let that put you off, however, as Ferroseed is a prickly assailant that you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Thunder Wave / Protect
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Eviolite
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Thanks to Eviolite and its excellent typing, Ferroseed is a fantastic team supporter. With resistances to common Water-, Electric-, and Grass-type attacks, Ferroseed can take on the likes of Slowking, Tangrowth, and Rotom with little trouble. Spikes and Stealth Rock provide valuable team support; Spikes are more useful as there are fewer Pokemon with Spikes in the tier. Unfortunately, Spikes and Stealth Rock are illegal together with Leech Seed, so you will have to choose one or the other depending on your team's needs. Thunder Wave helps cripple offensive switch-ins, such as Moltres and Sceptile, but Protect makes prediction easier and saps extra health with Leech Seed. Although Ferroseed only has a base 50 Attack stat, its horrible Speed lets Gyro Ball break Substitutes from Golurk and friends. Ferroseed is more or less a one trick-pony, but it does its job well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ferroseed's defensively oriented EV spread lets it take hits from physical mammoths such as Aerodactyl, Aggron, and Rhydon. A specially defensive spread can be used to take on Omastar, Rotom, and Galvantula without Hidden Power Fire, but leaves Ferroseed vulnerable to physical Fighting-types such as Hitmonchan. Toxic can be used over Thunder Wave to cripple bulkier opponents, such as Sandslash, Cofagrigus, and Slowking.</p>

<p>Ferroseed appreciates a partner that can switch into Fire-type attacks; Alomomola and Slowking are probably the best teammates, as the former can provide valuable Wish support, while the latter has access to Slack Off and Regenerator to heal itself. Ferroseed will usually find itself being set up on; phazers, such as Mandibuzz can erase any stat boosts accumulated. Furthermore, Pokemon with Encore, Taunt, and the Unaware ability, such as Clefable, Aerodactyl, and Quagsire, respectively, will be problematic for opponents that attempt to set up against Ferroseed, making them excellent additions to your team. Ghost-types can switch into Fighting-type attacks and block Rapid Spin, as well as counter the likes of Hitmonchan and Gallade. Therefore, the likes of Cofagrigus and Spiritomb make excellent assets to your team. Finally, Wish support from Leafeon and Audino helps keep Ferroseed healthy and gives it a chance to fight another day.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Ferroseed doesn't have much of a movepool outside of Spikes and Leech Seed; it's fairly limited in what it can do. Sunny Day can offer some additional team support, but the boost to Fire-type attacks is the last thing it wants to give to its opponents. Ferroseed can provide Gravity support for its teammates, but it's unfortunately illegal with Spikes. Rest can be used to heal Ferroseed, but it's recommended that you carry a cleric to wake it up. Seed Bomb is an alternative STAB move to hurt Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types, while Bullet Seed can be used to break frail Substitutes from the likes of Golurk.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Grass-types are immune to Leech Seed and the majority of them carry Hidden Power Fire; Sceptile can even destroy Ferroseed with Focus Blast. Fire- and Fighting-types, such as Moltres and Gallade, respectively, can take advantage of Ferroseed's low HP stat and either force it out or KO it. Magneton deserves an honorable mention as it can trap Ferroseed with Magnet Pull and set up with Substitute and Charge Beam. Taunt users can stop Ferroseed from setting up entry hazards and Leech Seed for a limited amount of time, while Rapid Spin users, especially Hitmonchan, Swords Dance Kabutops, and Swords Dance Sandslash, can remove its hazards and Leech Seed with ease. Both Magic Coat and Natu can bounce back Ferroseed's Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Tricking it a Choice item will remove its Eviolite and limit its capabilities. Rotom and Manectric are great Trick and Switcheroo users, respectively.</p>

 

[alexwolf]

Mention Seed Bomb to AC or OO, to deal with many Sub mons that would otherwise set-up on you such as Sub Feraligatr, Sub Golurk and Sub Poliwrath.

 

[complete legitimacy]

I'm thinking it's more like an OO mention, since Sub Feraligatr is not only bad but extremely uncommon, and you already break Golurk's Subs all the time with Gyro Ball.

 

[Honko]

Toxic is the only thing that should be in AC. Seed Bomb, Bullet Seed, and maybe Rest can go in OO. Shed Shell and Explosion really shouldn't be mentioned at all.

Slowking deserves the teammate nod in AC much more than Alomomola and Poliwrath. It resists both of Ferroseed's weaknesses, covers special attackers, and is a way better Pokemon in general.

 

[Komodo]

Aye, Ferroseed is hopeless outside of setting hazards anyway, just wasn't sure of what to mention. Anyways, sorted that out.

 

[Honko]

-Eviolite makes it worthwhile

That and 11 resistances, only 2 weaknesses, good defensive stats for an NFE, and access to hazards. There's no real need to emphasize Eviolite; it's mandatory on Ferroseed, of course, but by now everyone should know that about defensive NFEs.

-Eviolite gives it good bulk, helping it take on Water- and Grass-types.

and Electric- and Dark- and Rock- and Ground-types...

-Specially Defensive spread can be used instead to take on Sceptile and friends

Sceptile and offensive Tangrowth always have Focus Blast, and most special-attacking Water-types have HP Fire, so they all 2HKO even specially defensive Ferroseed. That's why it's inferior. A specially defensive spread can reliably paralyze Omastar and do a better job of walling Galvantula, Rotom, and Rotom-C, assuming they don't have HP Fire or Trick (which is a dangerous assumption to make). That's about the extent of its usefulness.

-Toxic can cripple defensive Pokemon who try to wall Ferroseed

Who's trying to wall Ferroseed? If you are, you're doing something terribly wrong. You want to force Ferroseed out so it stops setting up hazards and stalling with Leech Seed; sending in a wall is just playing into its hands. Toxic is useful for hitting spinners (Sandslash and Kabutops especially) and bulky offensive Pokemon that don't care about T-Wave on the switch: things like Bouffalant, OTR Cofagrigus, Specs Slowking, and LO Tangrowth. Not walls.

-Fire-types, Fighting-types, anything that hits Ferroseed super effectively. Its low HP makes it easy to kill off.

I wouldn't call Ferroseed easy to kill off at all. It's one of the more annoying defensive Pokemon in the tier. If you have a Fire-type move or a powerful Fighting-type move, you can force it out. If not, it's going to be a bitch, especially if your STAB is one of the 11 that Ferroseed resists.

-Magneton can trap and KO it with Hidden Power Fire

and more importantly, set up Sub + Charge Beam all over it. HP Fire isn't even a recommended move on Magneton anymore because of how easily it sets up on Ferroseed.

-Rapid Spin screw it over. Rapid Spin removes Leech Seed too.

Hitmonchan, SD Sandslash, and SD Kabutops can screw it over, but other spinners will actually lose to Ferroseed a lot of the time, especially if it has Toxic. If you send in your defensive Sandslash to spin away Ferroseed's hazards, it's just going to stall you out with Toxic, Iron Barbs, and Leech Seed.

Trick/Switcheroo also needs a mention in C&C.

 

[Upstart]

Seems good to me
QC APPROVED 1/3

 

[SilentVerse]

QC APPROVED 2/3

 

[Honko]

SILENTVERSE SUCKS 3/3

 

[Komodo]

Look at me, I wrote something. GP team, this is ready.

 

[DittoCrow]

Amateur GP Check
Status: Done

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[Overview]

<p>Besides the fact that it looks like a nasty durian fruit, Ferroseed is one of the most useful Pokemon in the RU tier. With a total of 10 resistances, an immunity to Poison-type attacks, and only two weaknesses,(Comma) Ferroseed is a tough nut to crack. That's not all; thanks to its NFE status, Ferroseed can utilize Eviolite to bolster its defenses to unimaginable levels. Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Leech Seed are only three great moves in its arsenal; novelties such as Thunder Wave, Gravity, and Gyro Ball are also available, but offer less in terms of team support. Ferroseed's only sticking point is its relatively low HP stat and lack of reliable recovery outside of Leech Seed. Don't let that put you off, however, as Ferroseed is a prickly assailant that you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Thunder Wave / Protect
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Eviolite
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Thanks to both Eviolite and its excellent typing, Ferroseed is an excellent team supporter. With resistances to common Water-, Electric-, and Grass-type attacks, Ferroseed can take on the likes of Slowking, Tangrowth, and Rotom with little trouble. Spikes and Stealth Rock provide valuable team support; Spikes are more useful as there are fewer Pokemon with Spikes in the tier. Unfortunately,(Comma) Spikes and Stealth Rock are illegal together with Leech Seed, making you choose one of the two depending on your team's needs. Thunder Wave helps cripple offensive switch-ins such as Moltres and Sceptile, but Protect makes prediction easier and saps extra health with Leech Seed. Although Ferroseed only has a base 50 Attack stat, its horrible Speed makes itGyro Ball somewhat usable to break Substitutes from Golurk and friends. Ferroseed is more or less a one-(hyphen)trick pony, but it does its job well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ferroseed is designed to take hits from physical mammoths such as Aerodactyl, Aggron, and Rhydon, making its 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD EV spread ideal. A specially defensive spread can be used to take on Omastar, Rotom, and Galvantula without Hidden Power Fire, but this leaves Ferroseed vulnerable to physical Fighting-types,(Remove comma) such as Hitmonchan. Toxic can be used over instead of Thunder Wave to cripple bulkier opponents,(Remove comma) such as Sandslash, Cofagrigus, and Slowking.</p>

<p>Ferroseed appreciates a partner that can switch into Fire-type attacks; Alomomola and Slowking are probably the best teammates,(Comma) as the former can provide valuable Wish support,(Remove comma) while the latter has access to Slack Off and Regenerator to heal itself. Ferroseed will usually find itself being set up on, so a Pokemon with Roar or Whirlwind can erase any stat boosts accumulated. Furthermore, Pokemon with Encore, Taunt, and the Unaware ability will be problematic for opponents that attempt to set up against Ferroseed, making them excellent additions to your team. Ghost-types can switch into Fighting-type attacks and block Rapid Spin—they also counter the likes of Hitmonchan and Gallade—making them an excellent assets to your team. Finally, Wish support helps keep Ferroseed healthy and gives it a chance to fight another day.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Ferroseed doesn't have much of a movepool outside of Spikes and Leech Seed,(Remove comma);(Semicolon) it's fairly limited in what it can do. Sunny Day can offer some additional team support, but boosting Fire-type attacks is the last thing it needs. Ferroseed can provide Gravity support for its teammates, but it's unfortunately it's illegal with Spikes. Rest can be used to heal Ferroseed, but it's recommended that you carry a cleric to wake it up. Seed Bomb is an alternative STAB move to hurt Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types, while Bullet Seed can be used to break frail Substitutes.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Grass-types are immune to Leech Seed and the majority of them carry Hidden Power Fire, while Sceptile destroys Ferroseed with Focus Blast. Fire- and Fighting-types, such as Moltres and Gallade, respectively, can take advantage of Ferroseed's low HP stat and either force it out or KO it, while.(Period) Magneton can trap Ferroseed with Magnet Pull and set up with Substitute and Charge Beam. Taunt can stop Ferroseed from setting up entry hazards and Leech Seed for a limited amount of time, while Rapid Spinners, especially Hitmonchan, Swords Dance Kabutops, and Swords Dance Sandslash, can remove its hazards and Leech Seed with ease. Both Magic Coat and Natu can bounce back Ferroseed's Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Trick and Switcheroo will limit its capabilities if it's left with a Choice item; also, the loss of Eviolite will greatly impair Ferroseed's bulk.</p>

I think that you should mention stuff like Mandibuzz and Clefable in checks and counters, and also specific Pokemon that set up on Ferroseed (in the second AC paragraph).

 

[Stalfos]

Spikes and Stealth Rock provide valuable team support; Spikes are more useful as there are fewer Pokemon with Spikes in the tier.

When written as a single object, even naturally plural items are treated as singular (Leftovers is a good item choice on bulky Pokemon. Choice Specs is put to excellent use on Jolteon.).

so the bolded should be "Spikes is"

Toxic can be used over instead of Thunder Wave to cripple bulkier opponents

either "over" or "instead of" is fine here, go with whichever you prefer Komodo

Taunt can stop Ferroseed from setting up entry hazards and Leech Seed for a limited amount of time, while Rapid Spinners, especially ...

i'm honestly not sure why, but fsr we don't like "Rapid Spinner" (link) so change that to either "spinners" or "Rapid Spin users"

and with that imma stamp DC's check

GP APPROVED 1/2

 

[Komodo]

Sorry this took a few days to get to, but ready for check 2.

 

[sirndpt]

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[Overview]

<p>Besides the fact that it looks like a nasty durian fruit, Ferroseed is one of the most useful Pokemon in the RU tier. With a total of 10 resistances, an immunity to Poison-type attacks, and only two weaknesses, Ferroseed is a tough nut to crack. That's not all; thanks to its NFE status, Ferroseed can utilize Eviolite to bolster its defenses to unimaginable levels. Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Leech Seed are only three great moves in its arsenal; novelties such as Thunder Wave, Gravity, and Gyro Ball are also available, but offer less in terms of team support. Ferroseed's only sticking point is its relatively low HP stat and lack of reliable recovery outside of Leech Seed. Don't let that put you off, however, as Ferroseed is a prickly assailant that you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Thunder Wave / Protect
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Eviolite
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Thanks to Eviolite and its excellent typing, Ferroseed is an excellent a fantastic team supporter. With resistances to common Water-, Electric-, and Grass-type attacks, Ferroseed can take on the likes of Slowking, Tangrowth, and Rotom with little trouble. Spikes and Stealth Rock provide valuable team support; Spikes are more useful as there are fewer Pokemon with Spikes in the tier (it is a less common move / move with lower distribution?). Unfortunately, Spikes and Stealth Rock are illegal together with Leech Seed, making you so you will have to choose one or the other depending on your team's needs. Thunder Wave helps cripple offensive switch-ins, such as Moltres or and Sceptile, but Protect makes prediction easier and saps extra health with Leech Seed. Although Ferroseed only has a base 50 Attack stat, its horrible Speed makes lets Gyro Ball somewhat usable to break Substitutes from Golurk and friends. Ferroseed is more or less a one trick-pony, but it does its job well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ferroseed is designed to Ferroseed's defensively oriented EV spread lets it take hits from physical mammoths such as Aerodactyl, Aggron, and Rhydon, making its 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD EV spread ideal. A specially defensive spread can be used to take on Omastar, Rotom, and Galvantula without Hidden Power Fire, but leaves Ferroseed vulnerable to physical Fighting-types, such as Hitmonchan. Toxic can be used over Thunder Wave to cripple bulker bulkier opponents, such as Sandslash, Cofagrigus, and Slowking.</p>

<p>Ferroseed appreciates a partner that can switch into Fire-type attacks; Alomomola and Slowking are probably the best teammates, as the former can provide valuable Wish support, while the latter has access to Slack Off and Regenerator to heal itself. Ferroseed will usually find itself being set up on, so a Pokemon with Roar or Whirlwind phazers (such as?) can erase any stat boosts accumulated. Furthermore, Pokemon with Encore, Taunt, and the Unaware ability, (such as? respectively), will be problematic for opponents that attempt to set up against Ferroseed, making them excellent additions to your team. Ghost-types can switch into Fighting-type attacks and block Rapid Spin, —they also as well as counter the likes of Hitmonchan and Gallade. —making them Therefore, the likes of (who?) make excellent assets to your team. Finally, Wish support from (who?) helps keep Ferroseed healthy and gives it a chance to fight another day.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Ferroseed doesn't have much of a movepool outside of Spikes and Leech Seed; it's fairly limited in what it can do. Sunny Day can offer some additional team support, but boosting the boost to Fire-type attacks is the last thing it needs. Ferroseed can provide Gravity support for its teammates, but it's unfortunately it's illegal with Spikes. Rest can be used to heal Ferroseed, but it's recommended that you carry a cleric to wake it up. Seed Bomb is an alternative STAB move to hurt Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types, while Bullet Seed can be used to break frail Substitutes (from who?).</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Grass-types are immune to Leech Seed and the majority of them carry Hidden Power Fire; while Sceptile can even destroys Ferroseed with Focus Blast. Fire- and Fighting-types, such as Moltres and Gallade, respectively, can take advantage of Ferroseed's low HP stat and either force it out or KO it. Magneton deserves an honorable mention as it can trap Ferroseed with Magnet Pull and set up with Substitute and Charge Beam. Taunt (give examples of taunt users) can stop Ferroseed from setting up entry hazards and Leech Seed for a limited amount of time, while Rapid Spinners Spin users, especially Hitmonchan, Swords Dance Kabutops, and Swords Dance Sandslash, can remove its hazards and Leech Seed with ease. Both Magic Coat and Natu can bounce back Ferroseed's Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Trick and Switcheroo will limit its capabilities if it's left with a Choice item; also, the loss of Eviolite will greatly impair Ferroseed's bulk Tricking it a Choice item will remove its Eviolite and limit its capabilities (perhaps name a few Trick/ Switcheroo users).</p>

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[Overview]

<p>Besides the fact that it looks like a nasty durian fruit, Ferroseed is one of the most useful Pokemon in the RU tier. With a total of 10 resistances, an immunity to Poison-type attacks, and only two weaknesses, Ferroseed is a tough nut to crack. That's not all; thanks to its NFE status, Ferroseed can utilize Eviolite to bolster its defenses to unimaginable levels. Spikes, Stealth Rock, and Leech Seed are only three great moves in its arsenal; novelties such as Thunder Wave, Gravity, and Gyro Ball are also available, but offer less in terms of team support. Ferroseed's only sticking point is its relatively low HP stat and lack of reliable recovery outside of Leech Seed. Don't let that put you off, however, as Ferroseed is a prickly assailant that you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Spikes / Stealth Rock
move 2: Leech Seed
move 3: Thunder Wave / Protect
move 4: Gyro Ball
item: Eviolite
nature: Relaxed
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
ivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Thanks to Eviolite and its excellent typing, Ferroseed is a fantastic team supporter. With resistances to common Water-, Electric-, and Grass-type attacks, Ferroseed can take on the likes of Slowking, Tangrowth, and Rotom with little trouble. Spikes and Stealth Rock provide valuable team support; Spikes are more useful as there are fewer Pokemon with Spikes in the tier (it is a less common move / move with lower distribution?). Unfortunately, Spikes and Stealth Rock are illegal together with Leech Seed, so you will have to choose one or the other depending on your team's needs. Thunder Wave helps cripple offensive switch-ins, such as Moltres and Sceptile, but Protect makes prediction easier and saps extra health with Leech Seed. Although Ferroseed only has a base 50 Attack stat, its horrible Speed lets Gyro Ball break Substitutes from Golurk and friends. Ferroseed is more or less a one trick-pony, but it does its job well.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ferroseed's defensively oriented EV spread lets it take hits from physical mammoths such as Aerodactyl, Aggron, and Rhydon. A specially defensive spread can be used to take on Omastar, Rotom, and Galvantula without Hidden Power Fire, but leaves Ferroseed vulnerable to physical Fighting-types such as Hitmonchan. Toxic can be used over Thunder Wave to cripple bulkier opponents, such as Sandslash, Cofagrigus, and Slowking.</p>

<p>Ferroseed appreciates a partner that can switch into Fire-type attacks; Alomomola and Slowking are probably the best teammates, as the former can provide valuable Wish support, while the latter has access to Slack Off and Regenerator to heal itself. Ferroseed will usually find itself being set up on; phazers (such as?) can erase any stat boosts accumulated. Furthermore, Pokemon with Encore, Taunt, and the Unaware ability, (such as? respectively), will be problematic for opponents that attempt to set up against Ferroseed, making them excellent additions to your team. Ghost-types can switch into Fighting-type attacks and block Rapid Spin, as well as counter the likes of Hitmonchan and Gallade. Therefore, the likes of (who?) make excellent assets to your team. Finally, Wish support from (who?) helps keep Ferroseed healthy and gives it a chance to fight another day.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Ferroseed doesn't have much of a movepool outside of Spikes and Leech Seed; it's fairly limited in what it can do. Sunny Day can offer some additional team support, but the boost to Fire-type attacks is the last thing it needs. Ferroseed can provide Gravity support for its teammates, but it's unfortunately illegal with Spikes. Rest can be used to heal Ferroseed, but it's recommended that you carry a cleric to wake it up. Seed Bomb is an alternative STAB move to hurt Water-, Rock-, and Ground-types, while Bullet Seed can be used to break frail Substitutes (from who?).</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Grass-types are immune to Leech Seed and the majority of them carry Hidden Power Fire; Sceptile can even destroy Ferroseed with Focus Blast. Fire- and Fighting-types, such as Moltres and Gallade, respectively, can take advantage of Ferroseed's low HP stat and either force it out or KO it. Magneton deserves an honorable mention as it can trap Ferroseed with Magnet Pull and set up with Substitute and Charge Beam. Taunt (give examples of taunt users) can stop Ferroseed from setting up entry hazards and Leech Seed for a limited amount of time, while Rapid Spin users, especially Hitmonchan, Swords Dance Kabutops, and Swords Dance Sandslash, can remove its hazards and Leech Seed with ease. Both Magic Coat and Natu can bounce back Ferroseed's Spikes and Stealth Rock, while Tricking it a Choice item will remove its Eviolite and limit its capabilities (perhaps name a few Trick/ Switcheroo users).</p>

 

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