RU Florges (WRITTEN) [QC 3/3] [GP 2/2]

[Twilight]

[OVERVIEW]

Florges has solidified itself as one of the best Fairy-types and defensive staples in the tier by virtue of its immense special bulk, allowing it to check threats such as Mega Blastoise, Noivern, and Mega Sceptile. Florges's access to Synthesis gives it instant recovery to consistently pivot into these threats, but you should be wary of the limited amount of PP Synthesis has. Florges's viability is further increased by its status as one of the few viable Wish users in the tier, as well as fulfilling the role of a cleric, which only Diancie gives it competition for. Florges also possesses a decent offensive presence with its above-average Special Attack in conjunction with a powerful STAB move in Moonblast. Unfortunately, very mediocre physical bulk means Florges struggles to directly switch into strong threats like Choice Band Bewear and Guts Machamp. While Florges does outspeed these threats, it will most likely be forced to use Synthesis in response in order to be able to pivot into them or other threats later. Although Florges provides a lot of utility for a team, it can be very passive, which allows threats like Metagross, Ninetales, and Arcanine to take advantage of it and fire off a strong attack or use it as a setup fodder, particularly in the former two's case.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Aromatherapy
move 4: Wish
item: Leftovers
ability: Symbiosis
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

STAB Moonblast hits relatively hard and has the chance to drop a foe's Special Attack by one stage, allowing Florges to check it more easily. Synthesis allows Florges to keep switching into threats like Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile without much fear. Aromatherapy provides a way to cure status conditions such as Toxic and Will-O-Wisp from Florges and its team. Wish provides Florges with the ability to recover the health of its teammates, especially ones that lack reliable recovery such as Bronzong and Nidoqueen. This can also provide a way for Florges to recover its own health without Synthesis's limited PP and reduced recovery in sand and hail; this is vital because Synthesis is important for the immediate recovery against offensive teams.

Set Details
========

136 Speed EVs with a Timid nature allow Florges to outspeed and remove threats like Bewear and Adamant Tyrantrum. The rest of the EVs are put into its physical bulk to tank hits from the physical Fighting-types in the tier. Leftovers provide Florges with passive recovery to perform its role as a cleric for longer.

Usage Tips
========

Florges should use its massive Special Defense stat and Fairy typing to switch into Pokemon like Yanmega, Mega Sceptile, and Mega Ampharos. Florges should also aim to support its teammates with Wish and cleric support; however, Aromatherapy should not be used too liberally due to its low PP. If Florges is up against a wall it can't beat like Bronzong or Registeel, it should refrain from using Aromatherapy unless a teammate desperately needs its status removed at the cost of Florges's health or getting crippled by status again. Florges invites a lot of threats like Escavalier, Ninetales, and Salazzle to fire off a strong hit. Ninetales and Salazzle can use Florges's passivity as a setup opportunity to start breaking, which means Florges should not use utility moves every opportunity it is given, as it can give up a lot of momentum. However, Florges can minimize the damage output these Pokemon can achieve by passing a Wish to a teammate that can pivot in more safely as a result. Wish should be used a lot early on in a match in comparison to Synthesis due to Synthesis's low PP, which can be vital against offensive teams that can deny it the opportunity to receive its own Wish. Florges has poor Defense, which means it struggles to switch into a lot of physical threats like Zygarde-10% and Guts Machamp. For example, a Guts-boosted Close Combat from Machamp is able to 2HKO Florges, which forces it into scenarios where it may need to use Synthesis, as otherwise it won't be able to constantly switch into other threats later. Therefore, avoid switching into these Pokemon too liberally, since it can get easily overwhelmed.

Team Options
========

Florges fits best on balanced and bulky offense teams that appreciate the utility it can provide for its members. Pokemon like Rhyperior and Mega Blastoise are fantastic partners that are capable of checking the Fire-types such as Arcanine and Salazzle that take advantage of Florges's passivity. These partners can also help remove most of the Steel-types in the tier that Florges is unable to pressure. In return, Florges checks Grass-types like Mega Sceptile, Shaymin, and Virizion that threaten them and can increase their longevity by providing valuable Wish and cleric support. Entry hazard removal from Mantine, Mandibuzz, and the aforementioned Mega Blastoise help take pressure off Florges, giving it more opportunities to recover health or use Aromatherapy. Steel-types like Escavalier and Metagross work really well with Florges by handling opposing Steel- and Poison-types, which Florges can't punish effectively. Likewise, Ground-types such as Donphan, Nidoqueen, and Zygarde-10% are able to offensively pressure these Steel- and Poison-types like Metagross and Toxicroak. Florges can provide them with Wish and cleric support to prevent them from getting easily worn down in exchange. Setup Pokemon like Calm Mind Cresselia and Curse Snorlax appreciate Florges's ability to cure them of status ailments that hinder their ability to sweep, and in return, they can pivot into specially offensive Poison-types like Nidoqueen and Roserade. Virizion and Calm Mind Raikou are alternative setup sweepers that benefit massively from Florges curing their status conditions, allowing them to accumulate multiple boosts and increasing their longevity. Pokemon that lack and appreciate a form of substantial recovery such as Bronzong and Mega Ampharos work superbly with Florges thanks to its access to Wish support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A more physically defensive set with a Bold nature can be utilized to allow Florges to switch into Fighting-types and other physically offensive Pokemon like Zygarde-10% and Golisopod easier at the cost of not being able to outspeed some of the tier's prominent threats like Tyrantrum and Bewear. Florges can run Defog if the need for entry hazard removal and a cleric needs to be compressed into one slot. However, Florges loses to a lot of the hazard setters in the tier such as Metagross, Nidoqueen, and Bronzong. Florges can also be overworked with trying to perform so many roles for a team. Toxic can be used to put Pokemon like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma on a timer, allowing Florges to better handle them between Moonblast and spamming its recovery moves, but Florges struggles to compress this onto its set over other utility moves that benefit more teams. Coverage options like Psychic and Hidden Power Fire can be run to punish threats like Salazzle and Escavalier attempting to freely pivot into Florges. However, Florges faces a lot of competition with Gardevoir and Ribombee, other Fairy-types with access to these coverage moves that fulfill an offensive role better. A Calm Mind variant can be used to help Florges break through a few offensive teams and allow it to take on threats like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma better, but the tier has a vast amount of Steel- and Poison-types that can prevent the effectiveness of such a set. A set with an EV spread of 252 HP / 32 SpA / 224 Spe, a Modest nature, and Pixie Plate can be used to fulfill a similar role but gives Florges more offensive presence at the expense of some Defense. Choice-locked Florges using either a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used as a surprise set to more easily revenge kill or wallbreak, respectively, but this is severely outclassed by Gardevoir in this regard.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Escavalier and Metagross offensively pressure Florges and force something to have to switch into their strong STAB moves and coverage options. Other bulky Steel-types like Registeel and Bronzong can Toxic stall Florges out of Aromatherapy and use the opportunity to set up Stealth Rock.

**Poison-types**: Strong Poison-types like Salazzle, Roserade, and Nidoqueen are capable of taking advantage of Florges's passivity as an opportunity to fire off strong STAB moves. Salazzle is also able to use it as a chance to set up a Nasty Plot, while Roserade and Nidoqueen can set up entry hazards such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. However, all of these threats can be lured by Psychic variants.

**Strong Physical Attackers**: Strong physical attackers like Lycanroc-D and Golisopod can easily overwhelm Florges thanks to its poor Defense, as both can OHKO it at +2 after Stealth Rock damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Twilight, 344575]]
- Quality checked by: [[phantom, 180300], [zizalith, 410251], [MrAldo, 227521]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Fireflame479, 231476], [The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216]]

 

[phantom]

move the special attack investment to defense. those spa evs aren’t helping you with anything, while the physical bulk has at least some use in letting it safely come in on dd zygarde, even though it is kinda uncommon now.

I’d remove any mention of protect tbh

half the reason florges is good is that it doesn’t need 2 turns to recover. using protect makes it significantly less viable since it becomes a momentum suck in addition to an inadequate wish passer.

remove machamp from checks and counters. the given spread outspeeds machamp and does way too much damage with moonblast. florges is the check. maybe mention ninetales somewhere instead since it takes turns off florges.

assuming you do the above qc 1/3

 

[Twilight]

Implemented everything above, ready for qc 2

 

[JustoonSmitts]

Friendly A.M. check. Just some nitpicks. Good job with this.

Twilight, post: 8162795, member: 344575

Nothing special, but this gif makes me laugh.​

[OVERVIEW]

• Florges has solidified itself as one of the best fairy types and defensive staples in the tier which lets it check threats like Bewear, Virizion and Honchkrow. I'm kind of iffy on this sentance. Jolly Honchkrow outspeeds and OHKOs with Brave Bird. +2 Virizioin can OHKO with Leaf Blade or All-Out Pummeling after Stealth Rock and Spikes up. Bewear is fine, but Florges definitely doesn't want to switch into a Normal-type STAB move. Florges is not a physically bulky Pokemon, but capitalize on what special Pokemon it can check. I'd maybe just delete that last part and just have it read as "Florges has solidified itself as one of the best Fairy-types and defensive staples in the tier thanks to its immense special bulk, which allows it to be a consistant check to Pokemon such as Mega Blastoise, Noivern, and Mega Sceptile." Also, make sure in the future that you capitalize types and move names in the analysis.
• This is enforced even more as it is the only viable Wish passer in the tier and only cleric between it and Diancie.
• In combination with its fairy typing, Florges has amazing special bulk to check the likes of Mega Blastoise, Noivern and Mega Sceptile. If you go with my suggestion, delete this point.
• The one turn recovery of Synthesis allows it to consistently check these threats, though it has limited PP.
• Florges has decent offensive presence thanks to above average Special Attack stat with Moonblast as STAB.
• Florges has a mediocre Phys Def stat, physical bulk, which means strong threats like Choice Band Bewear limiting limits Florges ability to be able to switch hard into them to effectively check them. In most cases it will be forced to use Synthesis in response.
• While Florges provides a lot of utility it can be very passive and allow a lot of threats like Metagross, Ninetales and Arcanine in for free to fire off a strong move or set-up in the former two's case.
• Make a point about how its Abilities don't aid it in Singles. This is sort of important since other specially defensive Pokemon like Bronzong and Snorlax have useful abilities to aid in their defensive abilities.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Aromatherapy
move 4: Wish
item: Leftovers
ability: Symbiosis
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

• Moonblast is the best STAB option for Florges and hits relatively hard.
• Synthesis is reliable recovery allowing it to be a consistent check to top tier threats like Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile.
• Aromatherapy provides it and its team with a way to cure status conditions such as Toxic and Will-O-Wisp.
• Wish provides Florges with the unique ability to heal its team members, especially ones that lack reliable recovery such as Bronzong and Nidoqueen.

Set Details
========

• 136 Spe with a Timid nature is to outspeed Bewear, Honchkrow and Adamant Tyrantrum. Jolly Honchkrow is more common and threatens to OHKO with Brave Bird. Mention something else.
• The rest is put into its physical bulk to tank physical Fighting-types in the tier.
• Leftovers provides passive recovery to perform its role of a cleric for longer.
• Unfortunately, both of Florges's abilities are completely useless in Singles, so it doesn’t matter which one is used. I'm not sure if this is all that worthy for a sentence. In my opinion, if the ability is useless in Singles, then it may not be worth mentioning, especially if it's already stated in the overview. I'd wait to see what a QC member says.

Usage Tips
========

• Florges should primarily be using its massive Special Defense stat and typing to switch into threats like Yanmega, Mega Sceptile and Mega Ampharos.
• Florges should provide utility for its team, by providing cleric or Wish support. However, the move Aromatherapy shouldn’t be used too liberally as it has a very low amount of PP.
• If against a wall Florges can’t beat walls like Bronzong or Registeel it is best not to use that as an opportunity to clear status as it loses 1 on 1. This should only be done if a member on the team desperately needs its status removed at the cost of Florges potentially getting status’d again in the process.
• Florges invites in a lot of threats like Escavalier, Ninetales and Salazzle to fire off a strong hit. Both Ninetales and Salazzle can use it as a set-up opportunity, so its utility moves shouldn’t be used with every opportunity given as you can lose a lot of momentum doing so.
• However, Wish can help minimize this as your next switch-in can have an easier time switching in to said threat knowing it will get some health recovered. It should be used a lot earlier in a match than Synthesis, due to Synthesis’s low amount of PP needing to be conserved when necessary.
• Florges has a very poor Defensive stat which means it can struggle to switch into a lot of the fighting types it wants to check. While it does outspeed these fighting-types like Choice Band Bewear and Guts Machamp it will most likely be forced to recover. For instance a Guts boosted Close Combat from Machamp is capable of 2HKOing Florges which forces it to use Synthesis which it has a very limited amount of.
• If it doesn't, it will struggle to switch into these Fighting-types again and other specially offensive Pokemon it would normally be able to handle. Therefore, minimze switching into these types of Pokemon too liberally as it can easily get overwhelmed in the process.

Team Options
========

• Florges fits best on balanced or bulky offense teams that appreciate the utility it can provide.
• Pokemon like Rhyperior and Mega Blastoise are great teammates which are capable of check Fire-types which take advantage of Florges like Arcanine and Salazzle, while being able to beat or pressure most of the steel-types in the tier with their coverage options. In return Florges checks the grass-types like Virizion and Mega Sceptile for them and increases their longevity with Wish and Cleric support.
• Hazard removal like Mantine, Mandibuzz and the aforementioned Mega Blastoise takes a lot of pressure off Florges, giving it more opportunities to recover health or use Aromatherapy.
• Steel-types like Bronzong and Metagross work well with Florges for their ability to handle a lot of the opposing Steel- and Poison-types which Florges can’t handle.
• Likewise, Ground-types like Donphan, Nidoqueen and Zygarde 10% are able to offensively pressure the Steel- and Poison-types like Toxicroak and Metagross for Florges and in return Florges can remove status and provide wish support to stop them getting worn down easily.
• Set-up users like CM Cresselia and Curse Snorlax appreciate Florges ability to cure them of status conditions which can hinder their ability to sweep, while in return they can handle the special Poison-types in the tier like Nidoqueen and Roserade. I would add other examples like Virizion, Fightinium Z Raikou, and Necrozma. None of these like status conditions and Florges can help mitigate that issue.
• Make a bullet for Pokemon that lack reliable recovery. Florges can keep these Pokemon healthy.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

• A more Physically Defensive set with a Bold nature can be used to allow it to better switch into the fighting-types in the tier and other Pokemon like Zygarde 10% and Golisopod, with the cost of not being able to outspeed some of the tiers prominent threats.
• Florges can run Defog if the need for hazard removal and a cleric needs to be compressed into one slot. However, Florges loses to a lot of the tiers hazard setters like Metagross, Nidoqueen and Bronzong. Florges can also get overworked trying to act as both a hazard remover and cleric user at the same time.
• Toxic can be used to put Pokemon like Feraligatr and Calm Mind Raikou on timers to better handle them between Moonblast and recovery spam. Florges struggles to find room to fit this on though over options which can support its team better.
• Coverage options such as Psychic and Hidden Power Fire are options to punish a lot of threats like Escavalier and Salazzle, but it faces a lot of competition with Gardevoir and Ribombee as an offensive fairy type with access to these same coverage moves and fulfill this role better.
• A Calm Mind variant can also be used to help break through a few offensive teams and allow it to handle Pokemon like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma a bit better, but the tier has a vast amount of Steel and Poison-types which prevent this set being very effective.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel types**: Steel-types like Escavlier and Metagross offensively pressure Florges and force something to have to switch into their strong STAB moves and coverage options. Other bulky Steel-types like Registeel and Bronzong can Toxic stall Florges out of Aromatherapy and use the opportunity to set-up Stealth Rock.

**Poison Types**: Strong Poison-types like Salazzle, Roserade and Nidoqueen are capable of taking advanatge of Florges's passivity as an opportunity to fire off strong Poison STAB moves. Salazzle is also able to use it as a chance to set-up a Nasty Plot while Roserade and Nidoqueen can set-up hazards such as Spikes from the former and Stealth Rock from the latter.

**Strong Physical Attackers**: Strong physical attackers like Swords Dance Lycanroc and Feraligatr can easily overwhlem Florges thanks to its poor Defensive stat, especially with not being able to do enough in return.


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Twilight, 344575]]
- Quality checked by: [[phantom, 180300], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

 

[zizalith]

JustoonSmitts please put your amcheck in

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brackets instead of

so i can review and stamp

e: this backfired

 

[JustoonSmitts]

Quack. Sorry. XD

Probably too late, but fixed.

 

[JustoonSmitts]

Make sure you get rid of any Feraligatr mentions.

 

[zizalith]

justoon me

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[OVERVIEW]

• Florges has solidified itself as one of the best fairy types and defensive staples in the tier which lets it check threats like Bewear, Virizion and Honchkrow. I'm kind of iffy on this sentance. Jolly Honchkrow outspeeds and OHKOs with Brave Bird. +2 Virizioin can OHKO with Leaf Blade or All-Out Pummeling after Stealth Rock and Spikes up. Bewear is fine, but Florges definitely doesn't want to switch into a Normal-type STAB move. Florges is not a physically bulky Pokemon, but capitalize on what special Pokemon it can check. I'd maybe just delete that last part and just have it read as "Florges has solidified itself as one of the best Fairy-types and defensive staples in the tier thanks to its immense special bulk, which allows it to be a consistant check to Pokemon such as Mega Blastoise, Noivern, and Mega Sceptile." Also, make sure in the future that you capitalize types and move names in the analysis.
• This is enforced even more as it is the only viable Wish passer in the tier and only cleric between it and Diancie. this is untrue, say that it is one of the few wishpassers instead, or one of the best
• In combination with its fairy typing, Florges has amazing special bulk to check the likes of Mega Blastoise, Noivern and Mega Sceptile. If you go with my suggestion, delete this point.
• The one turn recovery of Synthesis allows it to consistently check these threats, though it has limited PP.
• Florges has decent offensive presence thanks to above average Special Attack stat with Moonblast as STAB.
• Florges has a mediocre Phys Def stat, physical bulk, which means strong threats like Choice Band Bewear limiting limits Florges ability to be able to switch hard into them to effectively check them. In most cases it will be forced to use Synthesis in response.
• While Florges provides a lot of utility it can be very passive and allow a lot of threats like Metagross, Ninetales and Arcanine in for free to fire off a strong move or set-up in the former two's case.
• Make a point about how its Abilities don't aid it in Singles. This is sort of important since other specially defensive Pokemon like Bronzong and Snorlax have useful abilities to aid in their defensive abilities.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Aromatherapy
move 4: Wish
item: Leftovers
ability: Symbiosis
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

• Moonblast is the best STAB option for Florges and hits relatively hard. mention -1 spa drop can really come in handy
• Synthesis is reliable recovery allowing it to be a consistent check to top tier threats like Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile.
• Aromatherapy provides it and its team with a way to cure status conditions such as Toxic and Will-O-Wisp.
• Wish provides Florges with the unique ability to heal its team members, especially ones that lack reliable recovery such as Bronzong and Nidoqueen. make sure you mention that u can still heal urself w wish, it gives u a lot more pp to work with and is still workable in sand/hail.

Set Details
========

• 136 Spe with a Timid nature is to outspeed Bewear, Honchkrow and Adamant Tyrantrum. Jolly Honchkrow is more common and threatens to OHKO with Brave Bird. Mention something else.
• The rest is put into its physical bulk to tank physical Fighting-types in the tier.
• Leftovers provides passive recovery to perform its role of a cleric for longer.
• Unfortunately, both of Florges's abilities are completely useless in Singles, so it doesn’t matter which one is used. I'm not sure if this is all that worthy for a sentence. In my opinion, if the ability is useless in Singles, then it may not be worth mentioning, especially if it's already stated in the overview. I'd wait to see what a QC member says. the sentence is fine

Usage Tips
========

• Florges should primarily be using its massive Special Defense stat and typing to switch into threats like Yanmega, Mega Sceptile and Mega Ampharos.
• Florges should provide utility for its team, by providing cleric or Wish support. However, the move Aromatherapy shouldn’t be used too liberally as it has a very low amount of PP.
• If against a wall Florges can’t beat walls like Bronzong or Registeel it is best not to use that as an opportunity to clear status as it loses 1 on 1. This should only be done if a member on the team desperately needs its status removed at the cost of Florges potentially getting status’d again in the process.
• Florges invites in a lot of threats like Escavalier, Ninetales and Salazzle to fire off a strong hit. Both Ninetales and Salazzle can use it as a set-up opportunity, so its utility moves shouldn’t be used with every opportunity given as you can lose a lot of momentum doing so.
• However, Wish can help minimize this as your next switch-in can have an easier time switching in to said threat knowing it will get some health recovered. It should be used a lot earlier in a match than Synthesis, due to Synthesis’s low amount of PP needing to be conserved when necessary.
• Florges has a very poor Defensive stat which means it can struggle to switch into a lot of the fighting types it wants to check. While it does outspeed these fighting-types like Choice Band Bewear and Guts Machamp it will most likely be forced to recover. For instance a Guts boosted Close Combat from Machamp is capable of 2HKOing Florges which forces it to use Synthesis which it has a very limited amount of.
• If it doesn't, it will struggle to switch into these Fighting-types again and other specially offensive Pokemon it would normally be able to handle. Therefore, minimze switching into these types of Pokemon too liberally as it can easily get overwhelmed in the process.
• bullet on healing urself with wish to conserve synth pp cause synth is better vs offense

Team Options
========

• Florges fits best on balanced or bulky offense teams that appreciate the utility it can provide.
• Pokemon like Rhyperior and Mega Blastoise are great teammates which are capable of check Fire-types which take advantage of Florges like Arcanine and Salazzle, while being able to beat or pressure most of the steel-types in the tier with their coverage options. In return Florges checks the grass-types like Virizion and Mega Sceptile for them and increases their longevity with Wish and Cleric support.
• Hazard removal like Mantine, Mandibuzz and the aforementioned Mega Blastoise takes a lot of pressure off Florges, giving it more opportunities to recover health or use Aromatherapy.
• Steel-types like Bronzong and Metagross work well with Florges for their ability to handle a lot of the opposing Steel- and Poison-types which Florges can’t handle.
• Likewise, Ground-types like Donphan, Nidoqueen and Zygarde 10% are able to offensively pressure the Steel- and Poison-types like Toxicroak and Metagross for Florges and in return Florges can remove status and provide wish support to stop them getting worn down easily.
• Set-up users like CM Cresselia and Curse Snorlax appreciate Florges ability to cure them of status conditions which can hinder their ability to sweep, while in return they can handle the special Poison-types in the tier like Nidoqueen and Roserade. I would add other examples like Virizion, Fightinium Z Raikou, and Necrozma. None of these like status conditions and Florges can help mitigate that issue.
• Make a bullet for Pokemon that lack reliable recovery. Florges can keep these Pokemon healthy.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

• A more Physically Defensive set with a Bold nature can be used to allow it to better switch into the fighting-types in the tier and other Pokemon like Zygarde 10% and Golisopod, with the cost of not being able to outspeed some of the tiers prominent threats.
• Florges can run Defog if the need for hazard removal and a cleric needs to be compressed into one slot. However, Florges loses to a lot of the tiers hazard setters like Metagross, Nidoqueen and Bronzong. Florges can also get overworked trying to act as both a hazard remover and cleric user at the same time.
• Toxic can be used to put Pokemon like Feraligatr and Calm Mind Raikou on timers to better handle them between Moonblast and recovery spam. Florges struggles to find room to fit this on though over options which can support its team better.
• Coverage options such as Psychic and Hidden Power Fire are options to punish a lot of threats like Escavalier and Salazzle, but it faces a lot of competition with Gardevoir and Ribombee as an offensive fairy type with access to these same coverage moves and fulfill this role better.
• A Calm Mind variant can also be used to help break through a few offensive teams and allow it to handle Pokemon like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma a bit better, but the tier has a vast amount of Steel and Poison-types which prevent this set being very effective.
• bullet on pixie plate + 252 hp / 32+ spa / 224 spe spread, it basically does the same thing but it gives u more offensive pressure at the expense of pdef. id also briefly mention specs/scarf and say that it can work as a surprise set but otherwise gard is better

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel types**: Steel-types like Escavlier and Metagross offensively pressure Florges and force something to have to switch into their strong STAB moves and coverage options. Other bulky Steel-types like Registeel and Bronzong can Toxic stall Florges out of Aromatherapy and use the opportunity to set-up Stealth Rock.

**Poison Types**: Strong Poison-types like Salazzle, Roserade and Nidoqueen are capable of taking advanatge of Florges's passivity as an opportunity to fire off strong Poison STAB moves. Salazzle is also able to use it as a chance to set-up a Nasty Plot while Roserade and Nidoqueen can set-up hazards such as Spikes from the former and Stealth Rock from the latter. mention these can be lured in by psychic sets

**Strong Physical Attackers**: Strong physical attackers like Swords Dance Lycanroc and Feraligatr can easily overwhlem Florges thanks to its poor Defensive stat, especially with not being able to do enough in return. fera is dead change example


[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Twilight, 344575]]
- Quality checked by: [[phantom, 180300], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

qc 2/3

 

[Twilight]

Implemented and ready for final QC check

 

[MrAldo]

QC 3/3

 

[Fireflame]

Remove Add Comments (AC)= add comma (RC)= remove comma (AH)= add hyphen (RH)= remove hyphen

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[OVERVIEW]

Florges has solidified itself as one of the best Fairy-types and defensive staples in the tier by virtue of its immense special bulk, allowing it to check threats such as Mega Blastoise, Noivern, and Mega Sceptile. Florges's access to Synthesis gives it instant recovery to consistently pivot into these threats, but you should be wary of the limited amount of PP Synthesis has. Florges's viability is further increased with it by being one of the few viable Wish users in the tier, as well as fulfilling the role of a cleric,(AC) who which only Diancie gives it competition for. Florges possesses a decent offensive presence with its above-(AH)average Special Attack in conjunction with a powerful STAB move in Moonblast. Unfortunately, Florges has very mediocre physical bulk,(AC) which means it struggles to directly switch into strong threats like Choice Band Bewear's Normal STAB moves and Guts Machamp. While Florges does outspeed these threats,(AC) it will most likely be forced to use Synthesis in response to being able to pivot into them or other threats later. Although Florges provides a lot of utility for a team,(AC) it can be very passive, which allows threats like Metagross, Ninetales, and Arcanine to take advantage of it and fire off a strong attack or use it as a set up opportunity setup fodder, particularly in the former two's case.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Aromatherapy
move 4: Wish
item: Leftovers
ability: Symbiosis
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

STAB Moonblast is the best STAB option for Florges that hits relatively hard and has the chance to drop a foes foe's Special Attack by one stage,(AC) allowing Florges to check it easier. Synthesis is reliable recovery that allows Florges to keep switching into threats like Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile without much fear. Aromatherapy provides a way to cure status conditions such as Toxic and Will-O-Wisp from Florges and its team. Wish provides Florges with the unique ability to recover the health of its teammates, especially ones that like lack (this gets the point across better) reliable recovery such as Bronzong and Nidoqueen. This can also provide a way for Florges to recover its own health without using the limited PP limitations of Synthesis,(AC) which are limited PP and it being affected by factors such as sand and hail; which this is vital because Synthesis is important for the immediate recovery against offensive teams.

Set Details
========

136 Speed EVs with a Timid nature allows allow Florges to outspeed and remove threats like Bewear and Adamant Tyrantrum. The rest of the Evs EVs are put into its physical bulk and HP ("physical bulk" refers to HP + Defense already) to tank hits from the physical Fighting-types in the tier. Leftovers provides Florges with passive recovery to perform its role as a cleric for longer. Unfortunately, Florges has two completely useless abilities for Singles, so it doesn't matter which one is used.

Usage Tips
========

Florges should use its massive Special Defense stat and Fairy typing to switch into Pokemon like Yanmega, Mega Sceptile, and Mega Ampharos. Florges should also aim to support its teammates with Wish and cleric support,(RC);(SC) however,(AC) Aromatherapy should not be used too liberally due to it having a low amount of PP. If Florges is against a wall it can't beat like Bronzong or Registeel,(AC) it should refrain from using that as a chance to clear status ailments,(RC) Aromatherapy unless a teammate desperately needs its status removed at the cost of Florges's health or getting crippled by status again. Florges invites in a lot of threats like Escavalier, Ninetales, and Salazzle to fire off a strong hit. Ninetales and Salazzle can use Florges's passivity as a set up setup opportunity to start breaking, which means Florges should not use utility moves with every opportunity it is given,(AC) as it can give up a lot of momentum. However, Florges can minimize the damage output these Pokemon can achieve thanks to it being able to Wish pass into a teammate which that can pivot in safer knowing a majority of its health will be recovered. Wish should be used a lot early on in a match in comparison to Synthesis,(RC) due to Synthesis's low PP needing to be conserved,(AC) which can be vital against offensive teams that can deny it the feasibility to receive its own Wish passes. Florges has poor Defense,(AC) which means it struggles to switch into a lot of physical threats like Zygarde-10% and Guts Machamp. For example, a Guts-boosted Close Combat from Machamp is able to 2HKO Florges,(AC) which forces it into scenarios where it may need to use Synthesis, as otherwise it won't be able to constantly switch into other threats later. Therefore, minimize switching into these Pokemon too liberally,(AC) since as (repetition) it can get easily overwhelmed.

Team Options
========

Florges fits best on balanced and bulky offense teams that appreciate the utility it can provide for its members. Pokemon like Rhyperior and Mega Blastoise are fantastic partners that are capable of checking the Fire-types such as Arcanine and Salazzle which that take advantage of Florges's passivity. These partners can also help remove most of the Steel-types in the tier that Florges is unable to pressure. In return, Florges checks Grass-types like Mega Sceptile, Shaymin, and Virizion which that threaten them and can increase their longevity by providing valuable Wish and cleric support. Entry hazard removal from Mantine, Mandibuzz, and the aforementioned Mega Blastoise help take the pressure off Florges taking too much chip damage, giving it more opportunities to recover health or use Aromatherapy. Steel-types like Escavalier and Metagross work really well with Florges by virtue of them handling opposing Steel- and Poison-types,(AC) which Florges can't punish effectively. Likewise, Ground-types such as Donphan, Nidoqueen, and Zygarde-10% are able to offensively pressure these Steel- and Poison-types like Metagross and Toxicroak. Florges can provide them with Wish and cleric support to prevent them from getting easily worn down in exchange. Set up users Setup Pokemon like Calm Mind Cresselia and Curse Snorlax appreciate Florges's ability to cure them of status ailments that hinder their ability to sweep,(AC) and in return, they can pivot into the specially offensive Poison-types like Nidoqueen and Roserade. Virizion and Calm Mind Raikou are alternative set up setup sweepers that benefit massively from Florges curing their status conditions, allowing them to accumulate multiple boosts and increasing their longevity. Pokemon that lack and appreciate a form of substantial recovery such as Bronzong and Mega Ampharos work superbly with Florges thanks to its access to Wish support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A more physically defensive set with a Bold nature can be utilized to allow Florges to switch into Fighting-types and other physically offensive Pokemon like Zygarde-10% and Golisopod easier,(RC) at the cost of not being able to outspeed some of the tier's prominent threats (give examples). Florges can run Defog if the need for entry hazard removal and a cleric needs to be compressed into one slot. However, Florges loses to a lot of the hazard setters in the tier such as Metagross, Nidoqueen, and Bronzong. Florges can also be overworked with trying to perform so many roles for a team. Toxic can be used to put Pokemon like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma on a timer, allowing Florges to better handle them between Moonblast and spamming its recovery moves, but Florges struggles to compress this onto its set over other utility moves that benefit more teams. Coverage options like Psychic and Hidden Power Fire can be run to punish threats like Escavalier and Salazzle and Escavalier (better ordering, since Psychic is listed first) attempting to freely pivot into Florges. However, Florges faces a lot of competition with Gardevoir and Ribombee as an offensive Fairy-type that have access to these coverage moves,(AC) and they fulfill the role better. A Calm Mins Mind variant can be used to help Florges break through a few offensive teams and allow it to take on threats like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma better, but the tier has a vast amount of Steel- and Poison-types that can prevent the effectiveness of such a set. A set consisting of an EV spread of 252 HP / 32 SpA / 224 Spe with a Modest nature and Pixie Plate as the item can be used to fulfill a similar role but gives Florges more of an offensive presence at the expense of some physical Defense. Choice-locked Florges using either a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used as a surprise set to more easily revenge kill or wallbreak,(AC) easier respectively, but this is severely outclassed by Gardevoir in this regard.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-(AH)types**: Steel-types like Escavlier and Metagross offensively pressure Florges and force something to have to switch into their strong STAB moves and coverage options. Other bulky Steel-types like Registeel and Bronzong can Toxic stall Florges out of Aromatherapy and use the opportunity to set-up set up Stealth Rock.

**Poison-(AH)types**: Strong Poison-types like Salazzle, Roserade,(AC) and Nidoqueen are capable of taking advantage of Florges's passivity as an opportunity to fire off strong Poison STAB moves. Salazzle is also able to use it as a chance to set up a Nasty Plot,(AC) while Roserade and Nidoqueen can set-up set up entry hazards such as Spikes from the former and Stealth Rock from the latter. However, all of these threats can be lured by Psychic variants.

**Strong Physical Attackers**: Strong physical attackers like Lycanroc and Golisopod can easily overwhelm Florges thanks to its poor Defense,(AC) as both can OHKO it after it at +2 after Stealth Rock damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Twilight, 344575]]
- Quality checked by: [[phantom, 180300], [zizalith, 410251], [MrAldo, 227521]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

GP 1/2

 

[Twilight]

Done ready for the last GP

 

[Lumari]

remove add / fix (comments); (AC=add comma; RC=remove comma; SC=semicolon)
GP 2/2

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[OVERVIEW]

Florges has solidified itself as one of the best Fairy-types and defensive staples in the tier by virtue of its immense special bulk, allowing it to check threats such as Mega Blastoise, Noivern, and Mega Sceptile. Florges's access to Synthesis gives it instant recovery to consistently pivot into these threats, but you should be wary of the limited amount of PP Synthesis has. Florges's viability is further increased by being its status as one of the few viable Wish users in the tier, as well as fulfilling the role of a cleric, which only Diancie gives it competition for. Florges also possesses a decent offensive presence with its above-average Special Attack in conjunction with a powerful STAB move in Moonblast. Unfortunately, Florges has very mediocre physical bulk, which means it Florges struggles to directly switch into strong threats like Choice Band Bewear's Normal STAB and Guts Machamp. While Florges does outspeed these threats, it will most likely be forced to use Synthesis in response in order to being be able to pivot into them or other threats later. Although Florges provides a lot of utility for a team, it can be very passive, which allows threats like Metagross, Ninetales, and Arcanine to take advantage of it and fire off a strong attack or use it as a setup fodder, particularly in the former two's case.

[SET]
name: Cleric
move 1: Moonblast
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Aromatherapy
move 4: Wish
item: Leftovers
ability: Symbiosis
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

STAB Moonblast hits relatively hard and has the chance to drop a foe's Special Attack by one stage, allowing Florges to check it easier more easily. Synthesis is reliable recovery that allows Florges to keep switching into threats like Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile without much fear. Aromatherapy provides a way to cure status conditions such as Toxic and Will-O-Wisp from Florges and its team. Wish provides Florges with the unique ability to recover the health of its teammates, especially ones that lack reliable recovery such as Bronzong and Nidoqueen. This can also provide a way for Florges to recover its own health without the limitations of Synthesis's, which are limited in PP and it being affected by factors such as reduced recovery in sand and hail; this is vital because Synthesis is important for the immediate recovery against offensive teams.

Set Details
========

136 Speed EVs with a Timid nature allow Florges to outspeed and remove threats like Bewear and Adamant Tyrantrum. The rest of the EVs are put into its physical bulk to tank hits from the physical Fighting-types in the tier. Leftovers provides Florges with passive recovery to perform its role as a cleric for longer. Unfortunately, Florges has two completely useless abilities for Singles, so it doesn't matter which one is used.

Usage Tips
========

Florges should use its massive Special Defense stat and Fairy typing to switch into Pokemon like Yanmega, Mega Sceptile, and Mega Ampharos. Florges should also aim to support its teammates with Wish and cleric support; however, Aromatherapy should not be used too liberally due to it having a its low amount of PP. If Florges is up against a wall it can't beat like Bronzong or Registeel, it should refrain from using Aromatherapy unless a teammate desperately needs its status removed at the cost of Florges's health or getting crippled by status again. Florges invites a lot of threats like Escavalier, Ninetales, and Salazzle to fire off a strong hit. Ninetales and Salazzle can use Florges's passivity as a setup opportunity to start breaking, which means Florges should not use utility moves every opportunity it is given, as it can give up a lot of momentum. However, Florges can minimize the damage output these Pokemon can achieve thanks to it being able to by passing a Wish pass into a teammate that can pivot in safer knowing a majority of its health will be recovered more safely as a result. Wish should be used a lot early on in a match in comparison to Synthesis due to Synthesis's low PP needing to be conserved, which can be vital against offensive teams that can deny it the feasibility opportunity to receive its own Wish. Florges has poor Defense, which means it struggles to switch into a lot of physical threats like Zygarde-10% and Guts Machamp. For example, a Guts-boosted Close Combat from Machamp is able to 2HKO Florges, which forces it into scenarios where it may need to use Synthesis, as otherwise it won't be able to constantly switch into other threats later. Therefore, minimize avoid switching into these Pokemon too liberally, since it can get easily overwhelmed.

Team Options
========

Florges fits best on balanced and bulky offense teams that appreciate the utility it can provide for its members. Pokemon like Rhyperior and Mega Blastoise are fantastic partners that are capable of checking the Fire-types such as Arcanine and Salazzle that take advantage of Florges's passivity. These partners can also help remove most of the Steel-types in the tier that Florges is unable to pressure. In return, Florges checks Grass-types like Mega Sceptile, Shaymin, and Virizion that threaten them and can increase their longevity by providing valuable Wish and cleric support. Entry hazard removal from Mantine, Mandibuzz, and the aforementioned Mega Blastoise help take pressure off Florges, giving it more opportunities to recover health or use Aromatherapy. Steel-types like Escavalier and Metagross work really well with Florges by virtue of them handling opposing Steel- and Poison-types, which Florges can't punish effectively. Likewise, Ground-types such as Donphan, Nidoqueen, and Zygarde-10% are able to offensively pressure these Steel- and Poison-types like Metagross and Toxicroak. Florges can provide them with Wish and cleric support to prevent them from getting easily worn down in exchange. Setup Pokemon like Calm Mind Cresselia and Curse Snorlax appreciate Florges's ability to cure them of status ailments that hinder their ability to sweep, and in return, they can pivot into specially offensive Poison-types like Nidoqueen and Roserade. Virizion and Calm Mind Raikou are alternative setup sweepers that benefit massively from Florges curing their status conditions, allowing them to accumulate multiple boosts and increasing their longevity. Pokemon that lack and appreciate a form of substantial recovery such as Bronzong and Mega Ampharos work superbly with Florges thanks to its access to Wish support.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

A more physically defensive set with a Bold nature can be utilized to allow Florges to switch into Fighting-types and other physically offensive Pokemon like Zygarde-10% and Golisopod easier at the cost of not being able to outspeed some of the tier's prominent threats like Tyrantrum and Bewear. Florges can run Defog if the need for entry hazard removal and a cleric needs to be compressed into one slot. However, Florges loses to a lot of the hazard setters in the tier such as Metagross, Nidoqueen, and Bronzong. Florges can also be overworked with trying to perform so many roles for a team. Toxic can be used to put Pokemon like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma on a timer, allowing Florges to better handle them between Moonblast and spamming its recovery moves, but Florges struggles to compress this onto its set over other utility moves that benefit more teams. Coverage options like Psychic and Hidden Power Fire can be run to punish threats like Salazzle and Escavalier attempting to freely pivot into Florges. However, Florges faces a lot of competition with Gardevoir and Ribombee, as an other offensive Fairy-types that have with access to these coverage moves, and they that fulfill the an offensive role better. A Calm Mind variant can be used to help Florges break through a few offensive teams and allow it to take on threats like Calm Mind Raikou and Necrozma better, but the tier has a vast amount of Steel- and Poison-types that can prevent the effectiveness of such a set. A set consisting of with an EV spread of 252 HP / 32 SpA / 224 Spe, (AC) with a Modest nature, (AC) and Pixie Plate as the item can be used to fulfill a similar role but gives Florges more offensive presence at the expense of some Defense. Choice-locked Florges using either a Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used as a surprise set to more easily revenge kill or wallbreak, respectively, but this is severely outclassed by Gardevoir in this regard.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Steel-types**: Steel-types like Escavlier Escavalier and Metagross offensively pressure Florges and force something to have to switch into their strong STAB moves and coverage options. Other bulky Steel-types like Registeel and Bronzong can Toxic stall Florges out of Aromatherapy and use the opportunity to set up Stealth Rock.

**Poison-types**: Strong Poison-types like Salazzle, Roserade, and Nidoqueen are capable of taking advantage of Florges's passivity as an opportunity to fire off strong Poison STAB moves. Salazzle is also able to use it as a chance to set up a Nasty Plot, while Roserade and Nidoqueen can set up entry hazards such as Spikes and Stealth Rock. However, all of these threats can be lured by Psychic variants.

**Strong Physical Attackers**: Strong physical attackers like Lycanroc-D (?) and Golisopod can easily overwhelm Florges thanks to its poor Defense, as both can OHKO it at +2 after Stealth Rock damage.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Twilight, 344575]]
- Quality checked by: [[phantom, 180300], [zizalith, 410251], [MrAldo, 227521]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Fireflame479, 231476], [, ]]

 

[Twilight]

implemented and ready to upload

 

[phantom]

uploaded