Sub Review. Part 1.
(Reminder, I am not a council member, just a guy who is pretty familiar with both the process and usually the metagame, so don't take this as the affirmative to act. Get second opinions!)
Pretty boring tbh, and as far as I am familiar Snow mechanics are not yet implemented so the gimmick doesn't work yet. Also at the end of the day it's an Ice type with no recovery, so the walling thing is pretty mid. Quiver Dance is ok though but it's so slow.
I like it, shoddy typing aside, it has oodles of coverage and has a pretty great statline, immediately establishing itself as menacing offensive threat.
If this had recovery I'd be 100% down. As it stands it's a Dondozo with extra utility in exchange for Body Press (pretty big) and Unaware (REALLY BIG). I am not 100% on it yet, but I'd wanna see more arguments for it.
It feels like it heavily competes with Decipherior. Outside of that fact, STAB Body Press + Diamond Storm is pretty good, solid PhysDef mon.
Pretty solid Pokemon, adding a well needed Water and Fairy type into the mix. Unfortunately the lack of any good Fairy STAB (even Draining Kiss) heavily lowers my excitement for it. I'm also not really interested in Terrain Wars or any field condition this tries to facilitate.
It has my fav Protosynthesis user and one of my fav type combos. Whimsy Shocks is a very solid offensive pivot imo, adding a Spikes setter and defogger. New Fairies are great as well.
Solid defensive Water type, but personally not my cup of tea.
I love this Pokémon, if it got Defog it would be perfect. As it stands it's a cool offensive Pokémon and I would appreciate the defensive utility that it lends to the meta. I wish it got Brave Bird as well.
Has a VERY high ceiling imo, but it isn't an end all destroyer. Personally just to be safe I would remove the Special Attack boosts given.
I would not even bother trying the Ensure shit. This will most likely be a fast hit and run Boots Heavy Duty pivot. It has a lot of strong coverage and STAB U-turn is great.
This is pretty ass tbh IMO. It's just kinda better Abomasnow, which isn't that high of a ceiling.
It's a solid mixed Attacker, I wish the Mega Pokémon was not as fast as it is right now, 140 Speed + it's actual offensive prowess feels like it would quickly usurp Toed as the best speedster out here.
Idk, I just not 100% solid on this. It has nice immunities and all but at the end of the day, it's a frail Ice type with a lower power ceiling than most.
It's a gimmick one generation too late imo. Quiver Dance locks you into Bug typing unless you attack first, which puts you in a bind.
Water Bug. Not cool. Adding a Water type that can't check any Fire ever nor the best offensive Steel rn is crazy.
snow, yuck. Mentioned alr, but I'm not looking forward to a metagame ruled by teams specializing in field effects.
Any reason as to why you have to incorporate crappy Hax into this Pokémon? It makes it very unappealing imo.
See Rogue, but less so since it's not ubermensch coverage god mon.
Grouping the rest of them, they all feel like unfocused gimmick Pokémon. Slither Moth is the most viable here by a big margin but it reeks of "slap the counterparts together", not really something I tend to approve of, esp if the end product doesn't mesh particularly well. Wigglydozo is way too }massive and easy to take advantage of right now, and I can only see that growing as the metagame and it's offensive threats diversify. I realistically do not think it gets any mileage out of any listed move outside of Liquid WishTect and Rocks, so they are just cluttering the sub. Zangrier is just kinda bad, physical sets are a no bueno, so I'll focus on special. My problem is it's very frail, meaning it's very hard to get off reliable Nasty Plots. Dual STAB being 80 BP with such low SpA will hurt it as well.
Here you are, raising the bar. Once again, completely redefining what it means to be a competitive Pokémon and a well put together fusion. These are simply the greatest Pokemon I've seen submitted, and each and every one of them offer substantial metagame development if each is added. I do not believe anyone else here can top this, so might as well they give up.
ate boosted STAB Electric type First Impression backed by Electric Terrain. *Cue SpongeBob sad music* I feel like this Pokémon would make Rhyp whichever form absolutely mandatory on every single team, and it gets Ice Punch for the NFE one so...
Feels like it wants more oomph somewhere. It's not getting it from it's stats, so I suggest trying to work with it's ability more.
Weak as hell. I'd take advantage of the stat boost using same abilities grant, as rn this Pokémon is looking rather mediocre long term. This is def not "pretty much Hawl" cuz Unburden defines Hawlucha.
Brave Bird alone doesn't save this from being worse Gyarados imo, the no bulk and much lower speed cramp it's style of being a sweeper. Also, please the list of moves here is really unnecessary, stick to the essentials: STABs and viable options.
Mega is broken, don't even try to salvage it. Getting that out of the way. The base form doesn't have much of anything going for it, Nasty Plot is big but it's so frail I don't really think that matters much. And Evasion lowering as a mainline effect is pretty silly, esp when u don't have have real love that can truly abuse this, and if they are scared of that move they can just switch out and ur back to square 1 anyway.
I respect the legendary sub. I also respect the Beautifly positioning. I don't think this is particularly problematic but I can see this being added and not being particularly notable after the fact, like if one more good Steel or a Fairy comes in.
Pretty bad imo. Doesn't really do much since it's pretty weak, not particularly useful defensively and has a weird ability tbh. It's not as hot as one thinks, like I do not feel very bad if I switch out whatever I have into Iron Meta for near free rn (you not doing too much u boosted to a bulky variant and are immediately forced out).
Serene Grace on a Water type with Scald is all I need to see, 0/10. (Pirouette is not real don't waste time making stuff up for it.)
I wish it were bulkier, but outside of that I guess it's fine. Ceiling feels like its a bit higher for Water types than it usually is but I think the metagame just wants 1 good one back.
imo much worse than Iron Taur. Fairy Normal isn't that appealing of a STAB combo to begin with, and unlike Taur you have a much lower power ceiling to work with due to 100 offenses. SD Booster could work as an anti offense mon, but I think offense needs to fully flesh out prior to anti offense mons being able to rear their heads fully.
Alot of the criticisms lobbied to the Cryogoclef fusion from earlier, but not as bad because I think Ice Psychic is a better offensive typing and this Pokemon overall is much more geared to offensive Ice.
I'd think this Pokémon would be fine if it weren't another Regenerator. Not broken, just pretty unappealing.
Not a fan, seems likes it steamrolls the current meta with a small amount of support. If we had better walls or just defensive pivots for this I'd be more up for it but as it stands it's a turn off.
Similar feelings to the one above. It's hard enough to check as is, ion know why Mold Breaker needs to be another addition as well, hard enough to check Ice Ground coverage. Unpunishable hazard removal also is just cringe, esp one as risk free with such big rewards as this.
Agree with what Ana said in discord, the Pokemon just feels mid and doesn't feel like it will age well later into the future.
Starges is crazy. Reminds me of Whimsicottic from FE UU, and it feels like it would be a metagame defining mon. I'm trying to think if it would be too much in any particular area but IMO I think it's roundabout just right, with enough existing checks to it rn.
I wish this was just cooler Swampert, woulda immediately gotten my vote. As it stands it's a solid enough Attacker. Relying on Boots suck but it's ability gives it enough switch in points. Personally I don't think Ice Water is all that impressive on physical Pokémon, too easily blanketed by generic waters.
Togekiss at home is fire. Personally, I saw no reason to nerf this thing in the first place, if anything it's STAB + Coverage as a lot harder to process. Ability being Infiltrator+ instead of generic Quark Drive ability no. 8455366 is very appreciated.
Triage does not affect Bitter Blade.
at first I was very wary of this Pokémon, as Booster Energy just made this a broken anti offensive mon that requires zero dedicated set up. Then I ran calcs, it is statistically impossible for this thing to get a Speed Boost unless you start removing IVs from your Pokémon! At that point it's too weak to apply too much pressure outside of extreme cases. So now it's just big wallbreaker, which is fine.
Personally, you are giving this alot of hype and praise calling it a mixed Wallbreaker, mixed wall and the like. Realistically speaking this Pokémon is running TWO sets - Strength Sap CM, and Scald Rocks defensive Pivot. It's stats do not suggest wallbreaker at all, it's ability is pretty inferior to Unaware so it basically is useless versus the Pokemon it wants to wall. I'd focus on what this Pokemon wants and is capable of doing and tweak it to that, instead of this mishmash nonsense mon. I'd remove all of the unnecessary moves like Amnesia and Wave Crash from this Pokémon, it just serves as a distraction.
Pretty excellent defensive Water type, in fact it's defensive ability makes me a little wary, as it makes this Pokemon extremely difficult to consistently breaker through outside of Zappy moves. I suggest swapping one of the abilities for one the weaker options like Hyper Cutter or Unnerve. Otherwise, imo a perfect fusion.
Not my cup of tea, but at least the concept is more restrained than Zap Fimp. I suggest moving that 10 SpD to HP, probably makes it a bit more worthwhile. Otherwise kinda mid? Punching moves sorta suck.
This would be SO cool if 95% of the time this was not gonna just be used as a cheese Sticky Web lead.
I think you should use up that extra 10 points. Distribute it wisely. Outside of that it's probably the Water Fairy type subbed so far that is least likely to suck and not be broken. So that's a really good point in favour of it!