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Pet Mod [Gen 1] RBY CAP - Revived! [CAP5 - Stats] [Leader's Choice]
- Thread starter Sabelette
- Start date
Lagosnow (Eve)
Pineguin
Lagosnow
Pineguin
Lagosnow
Pineguin
Lagosnow (Original)
Lagosnow (Original)
Pineguin
Lagosnow (Original)
Lagosnow (Original)
By a vote of 8-3-2, the winner is Pineguin!
Typing: Grass/Ice
Stats: 120/70/40/95/80
Relevant Moves: Blizzard, Ice Beam, Razor Leaf, Reflect, Stun Spore, Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, Bubble Beam, Mega Drain
It's time to figure out the flavor - height, weight, usually useless moves, dex entries, and whatever other flavor you can think of! 72 hours to submit, have fun!
There's also a template now! So you don't forget anything!
Typing: Grass/Ice
Stats: 120/70/40/95/80
Relevant Moves: Blizzard, Ice Beam, Razor Leaf, Reflect, Stun Spore, Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, Bubble Beam, Mega Drain
Slate 0 Part 4: Remaining Flavor
It's time to figure out the flavor - height, weight, usually useless moves, dex entries, and whatever other flavor you can think of! 72 hours to submit, have fun!
There's also a template now! So you don't forget anything!
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[B]Name: Pineguin[/B]
[B]Title (the X pokemon):[/B]
[B]Height:[/B]
[B]Weight:[/B]
[B]Red/Blue Dex Entry:[/B]
[B]Yellow Dex Entry:[/B]
[B]Level-up Moves:[/B]
[B]TM Moves:[/B]
[B]Signature Move Name (if applicable):[/B]
[B]How to Obtain:[/B]
[B]Gen 2+ Egg Group:[/B]
[B]Tradeback Moves:[/B]
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Name: Pineguin
Title: The Penguin Pokemon
Height: 1.2m (3'11")
Weight: 35kg (77lb)
Red/Blue Dex Entry: This POKEMON disguises itself as a pine tree, protecting it from natural predators.
Yellow Dex Entry: A master of disguise, this POKEMON can stay still for days as a tree, protecting it from predators and storms.
Level-up Moves:
L1 - Absorb
L1 - Peck
L1 - Growl
L15 - Water Gun
L22 - Stun Spore
L29 - Ice Punch
L35 - Razor Leaf
L40 - Slam
L49 - Blizzard
TM Moves:
TM02 - Razor Wind
TM04 - Whirlwind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Body Slam
TM09 - Take Down
TM10 - Double-Edge
TM11 - Bubble Beam
TM12 - Water Gun
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM20 - Rage
TM21 - Mega Drain
TM31 - Mimic
TM33 - Bide
TM34 - Reflect
TM39 - Swift
TM44 - Rest
TM50 - Substitute
Signature Move Name (if applicable):
How to Obtain: A brand new patch of grass is created in the red circle on the Seafoam Islands. Pineguin has a 30% encounter rate here, with the remaining 70% consisting of stuff like Krabby, Slowpoke, and Staryu. It is found at Level 30.
Gen 2+ Egg Group: Monster, Grass
Tradeback Moves:
Light Screen (Breeding, Meganium)
Haze (Breeding, Blastoise)
Mist (Breeding, Lapras)
Headbutt (TM)
Strength (HM)
Title: The Penguin Pokemon
Height: 1.2m (3'11")
Weight: 35kg (77lb)
Red/Blue Dex Entry: This POKEMON disguises itself as a pine tree, protecting it from natural predators.
Yellow Dex Entry: A master of disguise, this POKEMON can stay still for days as a tree, protecting it from predators and storms.
Level-up Moves:
L1 - Absorb
L1 - Peck
L1 - Growl
L15 - Water Gun
L22 - Stun Spore
L29 - Ice Punch
L35 - Razor Leaf
L40 - Slam
L49 - Blizzard
TM Moves:
TM02 - Razor Wind
TM04 - Whirlwind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Body Slam
TM09 - Take Down
TM10 - Double-Edge
TM11 - Bubble Beam
TM12 - Water Gun
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM20 - Rage
TM21 - Mega Drain
TM31 - Mimic
TM33 - Bide
TM34 - Reflect
TM39 - Swift
TM44 - Rest
TM50 - Substitute
How to Obtain: A brand new patch of grass is created in the red circle on the Seafoam Islands. Pineguin has a 30% encounter rate here, with the remaining 70% consisting of stuff like Krabby, Slowpoke, and Staryu. It is found at Level 30.
Gen 2+ Egg Group: Monster, Grass
Tradeback Moves:
Light Screen (Breeding, Meganium)
Haze (Breeding, Blastoise)
Mist (Breeding, Lapras)
Headbutt (TM)
Strength (HM)
Name: Pineguin
Title: The Pine Tree Pokemon
Height: 1,5m
Weight: 43kg
Red/Blue Dex Entry: This POKEMON can easily camouflage on snowy forests as a pine tree.
Yellow Dex Entry: They ambush their prey as a group, the one with the biggest pompadour is the leader.
Level-up Moves:
Lvl1 - Peck
Lvl1 - Aurora Beam
Lvl1 - Leer
Lvl25 - Fury Attack
Lvl30 - Mega Drain
Lvl35 - Razor Leaf
Lvl40 - Ice Punch
Lvl45 - Stun Spore
Lvl50 - Blizzard
Lvl55 - Haze
TM Moves:
MO04 - Strength
TM01 - Mega Punch
TM02 - Razor Wind
TM04 - Whirlwind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Body Slam
TM09 - Take Down
TM10 - Double-Edge
TM11 - Bubble Beam
TM12 - Water Gun
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM20 - Rage
TM21 - Mega Drain
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM31 - Mimic
TM33 - Reflect
TM40 - Headbutt
TM44 - Rest
TM50 - Substitute
How to Obtain:
Pineguin has a 10% encounter rate at floors 3 and 4 of Seafoam Islands at Lvl 29 - 31 (F3)/ 36 (F4). After Articuno is defeated or captured on the bottom floor of Seafoam Islands, a Lvl50 Pineguin will replace it.
Gen 2+ Egg Group: Grass, Water 1
Tradeback Moves:
Petal Dance (Breeding, Vileplume)
Mist (Breeding, Quagsire)
Wing Attack (Breeding, Mantine)
Bubble (Breeding, Corsola)
Defense Curl (TM)
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Pineguin, the Camouflage Pokémon
Height: 3,2m
Weight: 106kg
Red/Blue Pokédex said:
Yellow Pokédex said:
Signature Move: Camouflage - Grass. 80 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. Cannot be hit turn 1, strikes turn 2.
How to obtain: Evolve from pre-evolution at level 29. Pre-Evolution catchable by Bill's House.
Level Up | TMs | Tradeback |
Lv1 - Absorb Lv1 - Peck Lv1 - Leech Seed lv13 - Wing Attack Lv21 - Stun Spore Lv 29 - Pin Missile Lv31 - Camouflage Lv33 - Aurora Beam Lv41 - Razor Leaf Lv51 - Mist | TM02 - Razor Wind TM04 - Whirlwind TM06 - Toxic TM08 - Body Slam TM09 - Take Down TM10 - Double-Edge TM11 - Bubble Beam TM12 - Water Gun TM13 - Ice Beam TM14 - Blizzard TM15 - Hyper Beam TM21 - Mega Drain TM22 - Solar Beam TM31 - Mimic TM32 - Double Team TM33 - Reflect TM50 - Substitute | Counter Seismic Toss Self-Destruct Explosion Headbutt Defense Curl Drill Peck Strenght |
Basic Information
Name: Pineguin
Title: The Pine Pokemon
Height: 1m (3'2")
Weight: 40kg (88lb)
Egg Groups: Grass/Field
Pokedex Entries
Red/Blue: This pokemon is very entitled, often fighting for food they didn't help obtain.
Yellow: Disguised as a tree, this pokemon is rarely ever spotted out in the wild.
Moves
Level-Up: Absorb [Lv1], Peck [Lv1], Leer [Lv1], Pin Missle [Lv10], Double-Edge [Lv15], Ice Beam [Lv19], Stun Spore [Lv21], Razor Leaf [Lv34], Mega Drain [Lv46] Blizzard [Lv52]
Tm/Hm: Razor Wind [TM02], Whirlwind [TM04], Toxic [TM06], Body Slam [TM08], Double-Edge [TM10], Bubble Beam [TM11], Ice Beam [TM 13], Blizzard [TM14], Hyper Beam [TM15], Mega Drain [TM 21], Mimic [TM31], Double Team [TM32], Reflect [TM33], Substitute [TM50], Cut [HM01]
Tradeback: Seismic Toss, Solar Beam, Drill Peck, Strength, Sky Attack
Location
Seafoam islands NPC trade, Fearow for Pineguin. He sits right outside of the seafoam island entrance. Is level 25 at the time of trade.
Notes - Edit
- I wanted to give him twineedle, but its Beedrills signature move. So i cant really do that. Pin Missle instead.
- I also wanted to give him glare. But another Signature move. So :D.
Name: Pineguin
Title: The Pine Pokemon
Height: 1m (3'2")
Weight: 40kg (88lb)
Egg Groups: Grass/Field
Pokedex Entries
Red/Blue: This pokemon is very entitled, often fighting for food they didn't help obtain.
Yellow: Disguised as a tree, this pokemon is rarely ever spotted out in the wild.
Moves
Level-Up: Absorb [Lv1], Peck [Lv1], Leer [Lv1], Pin Missle [Lv10], Double-Edge [Lv15], Ice Beam [Lv19], Stun Spore [Lv21], Razor Leaf [Lv34], Mega Drain [Lv46] Blizzard [Lv52]
Tm/Hm: Razor Wind [TM02], Whirlwind [TM04], Toxic [TM06], Body Slam [TM08], Double-Edge [TM10], Bubble Beam [TM11], Ice Beam [TM 13], Blizzard [TM14], Hyper Beam [TM15], Mega Drain [TM 21], Mimic [TM31], Double Team [TM32], Reflect [TM33], Substitute [TM50], Cut [HM01]
Tradeback: Seismic Toss, Solar Beam, Drill Peck, Strength, Sky Attack
Location
Seafoam islands NPC trade, Fearow for Pineguin. He sits right outside of the seafoam island entrance. Is level 25 at the time of trade.
Notes - Edit
- I wanted to give him twineedle, but its Beedrills signature move. So i cant really do that. Pin Missle instead.
- I also wanted to give him glare. But another Signature move. So :D.
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The Faz
Soda_Eesti
Soda_Eesti
Gaboswampert
The Faz
The Faz
And the winner is The Faz!
This means our second CAP is complete! The full description can be found on the spreadsheet!
CAP5 is gonna be delayed in order to do a balancing slate. In order to make discussion easy, Sabel and I think its best for this slate to take place in the discord server. Here's the link if you haven't already joined: https://discord.gg/VE3az4p9D2
We also have a survey: https://forms.gle/KYtybioAE37A1a8P8
This means our second CAP is complete! The full description can be found on the spreadsheet!
CAP5 is gonna be delayed in order to do a balancing slate. In order to make discussion easy, Sabel and I think its best for this slate to take place in the discord server. Here's the link if you haven't already joined: https://discord.gg/VE3az4p9D2
We also have a survey: https://forms.gle/KYtybioAE37A1a8P8
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Collating all the info here:
Name: Pineguin
Typing: Grass / Ice
Stats:
HP: 120
ATK: 70
DEF: 40
SPC: 95
SPE: 80
Signature Move: Camouflage - Grass. 80 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. Cannot be hit turn 1, strikes turn 2. (Move is banned due to Dig/Fly glitch)
Notable Moves:
Blizzard, Ice Beam, Razor Leaf, Stun Spore, Reflect, Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, Bubble Beam, Mega Drain
Height: 10'2" / 3.2 m
Weight: 233.7 lbs. / 106 kg
Pokedex Entries:
Red and Blue - Many have been startled by this walking tree. Once, an entire forest disappeared overnight as they migrated.
Yellow - Indistinguishable from trees during the day, they go out hunting at night, hoping to catch unaware travelers.
Level-up Moves:
Lv1 - Absorb
Lv1 - Peck
Lv1 - Leech Seed
lv13 - Wing Attack
Lv21 - Stun Spore
Lv29 - Pin Missile
Lv31 - Camouflage
Lv33 - Aurora Beam
Lv41 - Razor Leaf
Lv51 - Mist
TM Moves:
TM02 - Razor Wind
TM04 - Whirlwind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Body Slam
TM09 - Take Down
TM10 - Double-Edge
TM11 - Bubble Beam
TM12 - Water Gun
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM21 - Mega Drain
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM31 - Mimic
TM32 - Double Team
TM33 - Reflect
TM50 - Substitute
Tradeback Moves:
Counter
Seismic Toss
Self-Destruct
Explosion
Headbutt
Defense Curl
Drill Peck
Strength
Name: Pineguin
Typing: Grass / Ice
Stats:
HP: 120
ATK: 70
DEF: 40
SPC: 95
SPE: 80
Signature Move: Camouflage - Grass. 80 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. Cannot be hit turn 1, strikes turn 2. (Move is banned due to Dig/Fly glitch)
Notable Moves:
Blizzard, Ice Beam, Razor Leaf, Stun Spore, Reflect, Body Slam, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, Bubble Beam, Mega Drain
Height: 10'2" / 3.2 m
Weight: 233.7 lbs. / 106 kg
Pokedex Entries:
Red and Blue - Many have been startled by this walking tree. Once, an entire forest disappeared overnight as they migrated.
Yellow - Indistinguishable from trees during the day, they go out hunting at night, hoping to catch unaware travelers.
Level-up Moves:
Lv1 - Absorb
Lv1 - Peck
Lv1 - Leech Seed
lv13 - Wing Attack
Lv21 - Stun Spore
Lv29 - Pin Missile
Lv31 - Camouflage
Lv33 - Aurora Beam
Lv41 - Razor Leaf
Lv51 - Mist
TM Moves:
TM02 - Razor Wind
TM04 - Whirlwind
TM06 - Toxic
TM08 - Body Slam
TM09 - Take Down
TM10 - Double-Edge
TM11 - Bubble Beam
TM12 - Water Gun
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM21 - Mega Drain
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM31 - Mimic
TM32 - Double Team
TM33 - Reflect
TM50 - Substitute
Tradeback Moves:
Counter
Seismic Toss
Self-Destruct
Explosion
Headbutt
Defense Curl
Drill Peck
Strength
I really like that Pineguin... Just please add this part somewhere in the dex entry, I find it so funny :
"the one with the biggest pompadour is the leader" (credits by gaboswampert)
"the one with the biggest pompadour is the leader" (credits by gaboswampert)
We already voted for the dex entry.
Based on the survey, we are going to have a quick interim balance slate as well as some bug fixes and flavor/design updates. We'll start with the buffs and bug fixes as these actually affect gameplay. First off, Gargoyle was meant to have Hyper Beam but didn't, so we will be adding Hyper Beam to its movepool. This was a clerical error that ended up in the actual coded mod - oops!
Based on the survey results, the plan is minor buffs for Corupcake and Phantom, major buffs for Mandrelec, no change for Gargoyle.
As such, welcome to the very first balancing slate for RBY CAP! How this will work is as follows: We'll give 48 hours for initial balancing submissions - you may submit up to one submission per Pokemon. Submissions may include adjustments to stats and movepool, including both additions and removals. You may not change the CAP's typing and must continue to stick to the original concept.
The council will give feedback on submissions and veto or suggest adjustments accordingly. We will then give a further 24-48 hours for submissions to be adjusted and open a vote, which will also have default options of "no change" and "none of the above" (which means "I want change but dislike all of the choices above"). Since this will likely lead to a lot of options, we will do a runoff vote until one of the options has a majority.
Submission template (remove any lines you don't use):
Pokemon name
HP +/-X
Atk +/-X
Def +/-X
Spc +/-X
Spe +/-X
New moves:
Removed moves:
Based on the survey results, the plan is minor buffs for Corupcake and Phantom, major buffs for Mandrelec, no change for Gargoyle.
Balancing Slate 1: Initial Submissions
As such, welcome to the very first balancing slate for RBY CAP! How this will work is as follows: We'll give 48 hours for initial balancing submissions - you may submit up to one submission per Pokemon. Submissions may include adjustments to stats and movepool, including both additions and removals. You may not change the CAP's typing and must continue to stick to the original concept.
The council will give feedback on submissions and veto or suggest adjustments accordingly. We will then give a further 24-48 hours for submissions to be adjusted and open a vote, which will also have default options of "no change" and "none of the above" (which means "I want change but dislike all of the choices above"). Since this will likely lead to a lot of options, we will do a runoff vote until one of the options has a majority.
Submission template (remove any lines you don't use):
Pokemon name
HP +/-X
Atk +/-X
Def +/-X
Spc +/-X
Spe +/-X
New moves:
Removed moves:
Corupcake
HP +4
Def +5
Slight bulk buff that mostly just ensures it's not getting OHKOed by any EQ bar Rhydon. I'm wary of touching the attacking stats when it already is so threatening, and Sugar Rush is already hard enough to switch into without being 100% accurate. I really think Corupcake is just an inch short of being in an ideal spot, so I don't want to overdo it; the fact that Sugar Rush does this much damage to Starmie, Alakazam, and Chansey makes me not want to give it 100 or more base HP or any more offense at all.
Phantom
New moves: Hypnosis, Confuse Ray
Genuinely don't think it needs anything more than this, and the flavor slate can address things like people wanting to give it a signature or some tbs.
Mandrelec
New moves: Bubble Beam, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Reflect, Wrap
The Faz already has a submission planned for Mandrelec so I'm gonna try something a bit different from it. Wrap is the biggest momentum killer ever for this thing but it lets it not be useless into Lax (at the cost of letting in Egg/Don/Pineguin/Corupcake/etc in free as fuck). Also lets it do some funny Twave Wrap stuff but again, you are slow, Twave + Wrap + Rest leaves you a single attacking move, this isn't gonna do wrap cheese the same way Dnite/Vic do and it doesn't collaborate well with them because it can't take big special hits like Blizzard for them. It's a niche tech specifically to stuff Snorlax (and sort of Slowbro) at the cost of weakening you into everything else. Goofy? A bit. But it's a silly lizard, let it do the tongue wrap thing. VERY open to feedback on this because it feels risky to give any mon with Twave access to Wrap, especially one that gets only 3HKOed by Tauros, but I already know there's going to be a safe and solid submission coming so I wanted to experiment.
HP +4
Def +5
Slight bulk buff that mostly just ensures it's not getting OHKOed by any EQ bar Rhydon. I'm wary of touching the attacking stats when it already is so threatening, and Sugar Rush is already hard enough to switch into without being 100% accurate. I really think Corupcake is just an inch short of being in an ideal spot, so I don't want to overdo it; the fact that Sugar Rush does this much damage to Starmie, Alakazam, and Chansey makes me not want to give it 100 or more base HP or any more offense at all.
Phantom
New moves: Hypnosis, Confuse Ray
Genuinely don't think it needs anything more than this, and the flavor slate can address things like people wanting to give it a signature or some tbs.
Mandrelec
New moves: Bubble Beam, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Reflect, Wrap
The Faz already has a submission planned for Mandrelec so I'm gonna try something a bit different from it. Wrap is the biggest momentum killer ever for this thing but it lets it not be useless into Lax (at the cost of letting in Egg/Don/Pineguin/Corupcake/etc in free as fuck). Also lets it do some funny Twave Wrap stuff but again, you are slow, Twave + Wrap + Rest leaves you a single attacking move, this isn't gonna do wrap cheese the same way Dnite/Vic do and it doesn't collaborate well with them because it can't take big special hits like Blizzard for them. It's a niche tech specifically to stuff Snorlax (and sort of Slowbro) at the cost of weakening you into everything else. Goofy? A bit. But it's a silly lizard, let it do the tongue wrap thing. VERY open to feedback on this because it feels risky to give any mon with Twave access to Wrap, especially one that gets only 3HKOed by Tauros, but I already know there's going to be a safe and solid submission coming so I wanted to experiment.
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