Pet Mod [Gen 1] RBY CAP - Revived! [Sendoff Slate]

Fuck this guy in particular wins as a concept - we now have to choose which Pokemon will be upgraded to fill this role!

Slate 3 Part 2C: Pokemon Choice​
  • Submit a Pokemon that could evolve into the new CAP. We are not submitting stats/movepool/etc for the new Pokemon yet, so instead explain why you think your Pokemon of choice is a good base to create this CAP from and can fit the concept. This is essentially the typing step from prior CAPs but with a base movepool and stats to work from added in.
  • Since this will be an evolution of an existing mon, keep in mind existing movepools and typings. Single-typed Pokemon may gain a new type, and Dual-typed Pokemon can change one type.
  • Pokemon banned from evolving for this concept: All 3-stage lines, all Pokemon currently ranked OU, Eevee/Eeveelutions (because this is super overdone), Articuno, Moltres, Mew, Mewtwo, Pokemon on the verge of OU (Persian, Lapras)
48 hours to submit cause this is a pretty simple step.
 
PalpitoadChamp said:
:rb/magmar:
You should kill Exeggutor, NOW!
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This definitely needs more explanation of how it'd work because we already have fire types and they don't check Exeggutor at all. How do you envision a Magmar evo being better at this instead of thudding into Starmie/Phantom when it switches out, after chunking Magmar for 40+ on entry with Psychic or statusing it?
 
:y/tangela:

Seemed interesting to me at a glance from its big statline and good, but imperfect movepool. My concern at first was that the end result might end up competing with Exeggutor too much, but I'm no RBY player so I asked in Discord to be sure. Sablette has since explained to me that there are plenty of secondary typings you can give to Grass that could lead to it having a pretty different matchup spread in practice.
 
:doduo:
A dodrio side evo that is a flying ground mon that fuck electrics but has different weaknesses to Rhydon. Also, specifically a doduo evo cause adding ground to doduo and buffing its stats sounds dumb and a farfetch'd evo would have agility and sd.
 
:sandslash:
This is a really hard concept to work with because most of the OU mons have a way to get out of a hard counter (Cloy/Egg/Gar can boom, most stuff has free para, another Psychic with recover for Zam/Mie sounds boring and I don't think a Tauros hard counter is a good idea).

Sandslash has the existing tools to be good in OU, notably as a Swords Dancer that reapplies para drops while also being immune to para. I'm envisioning a Ground/Ice typing and a decent attack buff (at least to base 128). This allows it to be a very reliable switch into Chansey due to being immune to TWave and it can't be frozen. Swords Dance punishes it for Softboiling as at +2 it guarantees the OHKO, and generally provides a way around Reflect sets.
 
I think just about every mon we would want to counter already has a counter so this is hard. I don't think everything needs (or even can have) a counter as hard as Zapdos - Rhydon, but like... Pineguin and Gargoyle pretty significantly change a lot of dynamics. Anyway, in the hope of not having such rigid requirements as some other submissions, where they essentially MUST become a specific type and check a specific Pokemon, I'd like to pitch Aerodactyl, for 3 reasons:

1. It still does have an exploitable typing, so no team should get completely walked over by it
2. It already counters several Snorlax sets, but nowhere near all of them, and it still doesnt like para
3. With just mild upgrades, it could be an offensive check to various things (Jolteon, Zapdos) but would not be able to switch in, which I think is a better dynamic than just having a hard wall that prevents X Pokemon from doing anything, which is either hyperspecific (and therefore is a matchup fish) or is broken

I think we don't need to go the route of giving this QuakeSlide and massive stat buffs, it could be more of a Scyther-Scizor dynamic with evolution or just only get a few stat points on evolution and use it as an excuse to give it a move or two.
 
Vote time! Please note we're only voting for which Pokemon to evolve - typing, stats, new moves come later. 48 hours, no self voting as first place, etc
Magmar
Tangela
Doduo
Sandslash
Aerodactyl
 
Doduo
Aerodactyl

Im a big supporter of a Ground/Flying type since it serves as a Zapdos/Rhydon check while still having an obvious flaw in the 4x Ice weakness, and with dodrio-ish bulk it should die to any ice move easily
 
Doduo
Tangela

fuck it lets do a variant doduo evo, why not
i think i like the tangela concept more in terms of like, possibilities, but the doduo one is easier to actually make good and distinct
 
And the winner is.... Doduo!

Slate 3 Part 3C: CAP 7 Typing​
Now it's time to determine the CAP's typing; it must retain at least one of its prevo's typings, Normal or Flying, but may maintain both. This defines much of its possible matchup spread.

4 days to submit.

A reminder on the concept:
Fuck this guy in particular: design a Pokemon that strongly counters an existing OU or CAP Pokemon.

Have fun!

Also keep in mind Doduo's innate learnset!
 
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Ground/Flying

Seems like the most "obvious" one, fucks over both Zapdos and Rhydon which is hard to do in standard OU without going for more extreme playstyles (such as CloyDon). I think we could also play around with a signature move that is not EQ to keep the power level in check (fast mon with high attack and STAB EQ sounds rlly scary. Balanced by the fact that ground/flying comes with an awful 4x weakness to Ice.
 
Fighting/Flying

The only 3 types that make sense to me alongside Flying are Ground, Fighting, and Rock. The case for Fighting is you have a Flying-type that

1. is not weak to Rock Slide and is super effective on Rhydon
2. has a super effective move on Exeggutor, so it's not walled like most Fighting-types are
3. obviously, is super effective on the Normal-types, making them not great checks

It should still struggle with Starmie and things like Phantom/Gengar/Corupcake/Zapdos, but this gives it a bunch of real targets and is a pretty good Rhydon answer with a better big 3 matchup and without the 4x weakness from Ground/Flying in exchange for a much worse Zapdos matchup and getting walloped by Psychic
 
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