Approved by Pet Mods Staff (all the way back in november lmao)
Megas Revisited
Welcome to Megas Revisited! In this mod, we turn the clock back to 2013/2014, removing all Mega Evolutions from Gen 6, redesigning them, and adding them back into the OU metagame! This will hopefully gives us an opportunity to take a look back at the era of Pokemon that I got into competitive with and give it an interesting fresh coat of paint.
Before we begin, you should be aware of the mechanical differences between Gen 6 and Gen 9, which you can find in the spoiler tag below:
Major Mechanics
- The most important mechanical difference for this mod is that Megas use their base form's Speed (and ability, if it affects turn order like Chlorophyll or Prankster) on the turn they Mega Evolve. This is different from Gen 7, where Megas used their new form's Speed on the turn they Mega Evolved. This is why Megas like Beedrill and Diancie often ran Protect and why Mega Metagross is legal in ORAS OU.
- Burn deals 12.5% damage per turn instead of 6.25%.
- Paralysis lowers the user's Speed by 75% instead of 50%.
- Thunder Wave has 100% Accuracy.
- Roost, Soft-Boiled, Rest, Slack Off, and Recover have 10 PP instead of 5.
- Gale Wings works regardless of the user's HP. This is why Talonflame is OU.
- Parental Bond's second hit has 0.5x power instead of 0.25x.
- Sucker Punch has 80 BP
- Prankster-boosted status moves can hit Dark-types.
- Pelipper, Torkoal, Gigalith, and Vanilluxe don't have their weather-setting abilities.
- Hail is the Ice-type weather instead of Snow. Hail doesn't boost the Defense of Ice-types, but instead non-Ice-types lose 6.25% of their max HP per turn.
- No Pokémon or moves from Gen 6 and earlier are dexited. Notable moves that aren't dexited include Hidden Power, Return, Signal Beam, and Pursuit.
- Critical hits have a 1/16 chance of of occuring instead of 1/24.
Minor Mechanics
- No abilities make you immune to the effects of Intimidate.
- Pokemon have a 50% chance hit themselves in confusion instead of a 33.3% chance.
- Swagger has 90% Accuracy. This + confusion and Prankster mechanics are why it's banned.
- Knock Off has 25 PP (instead of 20), Leech Life has 20 BP, Mystical Fire has 65 BP, and Destiny Bond can be used multiple times in a row successfully.
- Hyper Training doesn't exist, so Hidden Power users must have imperfect IVs if they aren't using Hidden Power Dark.
- Aerilate, Refrigerate, and Pixilate boost the power of their affected moves by 1.3x instead of 1.2x.
- Protean activates every time a move is used, rather than just once per switch-in.
- While in the code, Zygarde can't learn Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves. This is why it's UUBL.
- Many Pokemon lack their Gen 7 stat buffs. The only potentially OU-relevant ones are Swellow having 50 SpA instead of 75 and Mantine having 65 HP instead of 85 (and lacking Roost).
- Grassy Terrain and Electric Terrain boost the power of Grass and Electric moves by 1.5x damage instead of 1.3x. Psychic Terrain does not exist. Defog doesn't remove terrains.
- Aurora Veil doesn't exist.
- Teleport does nothing in-battle.
- The most important mechanical difference for this mod is that Megas use their base form's Speed (and ability, if it affects turn order like Chlorophyll or Prankster) on the turn they Mega Evolve. This is different from Gen 7, where Megas used their new form's Speed on the turn they Mega Evolved. This is why Megas like Beedrill and Diancie often ran Protect and why Mega Metagross is legal in ORAS OU.
- Burn deals 12.5% damage per turn instead of 6.25%.
- Paralysis lowers the user's Speed by 75% instead of 50%.
- Thunder Wave has 100% Accuracy.
- Roost, Soft-Boiled, Rest, Slack Off, and Recover have 10 PP instead of 5.
- Gale Wings works regardless of the user's HP. This is why Talonflame is OU.
- Parental Bond's second hit has 0.5x power instead of 0.25x.
- Sucker Punch has 80 BP
- Prankster-boosted status moves can hit Dark-types.
- Pelipper, Torkoal, Gigalith, and Vanilluxe don't have their weather-setting abilities.
- Hail is the Ice-type weather instead of Snow. Hail doesn't boost the Defense of Ice-types, but instead non-Ice-types lose 6.25% of their max HP per turn.
- No Pokémon or moves from Gen 6 and earlier are dexited. Notable moves that aren't dexited include Hidden Power, Return, Signal Beam, and Pursuit.
- Critical hits have a 1/16 chance of of occuring instead of 1/24.
Minor Mechanics
- No abilities make you immune to the effects of Intimidate.
- Pokemon have a 50% chance hit themselves in confusion instead of a 33.3% chance.
- Swagger has 90% Accuracy. This + confusion and Prankster mechanics are why it's banned.
- Knock Off has 25 PP (instead of 20), Leech Life has 20 BP, Mystical Fire has 65 BP, and Destiny Bond can be used multiple times in a row successfully.
- Hyper Training doesn't exist, so Hidden Power users must have imperfect IVs if they aren't using Hidden Power Dark.
- Aerilate, Refrigerate, and Pixilate boost the power of their affected moves by 1.3x instead of 1.2x.
- Protean activates every time a move is used, rather than just once per switch-in.
- While in the code, Zygarde can't learn Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves. This is why it's UUBL.
- Many Pokemon lack their Gen 7 stat buffs. The only potentially OU-relevant ones are Swellow having 50 SpA instead of 75 and Mantine having 65 HP instead of 85 (and lacking Roost).
- Grassy Terrain and Electric Terrain boost the power of Grass and Electric moves by 1.5x damage instead of 1.3x. Psychic Terrain does not exist. Defog doesn't remove terrains.
- Aurora Veil doesn't exist.
- Teleport does nothing in-battle.
With that done, onto the mod itself!
Rules & Procedures
Slates will work in 3 phases: Submissions, Voting, and Playtesting, with a preliminary playtesting phase before the first submission phase begins.
Preliminary Playtesting Phase (First 4 Days)
As many of us aren't familiar with the ORAS metagame and taking Megas out of Gen 6 results in an entirely new metagame, we will have at least 1 roomtour before the first submission. This roomtour will be a Gen 6 OU roomtour with all Mega Stones banned. These preliminary roomtours will be extremely important to give us a baseline to build off of.
Submission Phase (7 Days)
For every slate, I will introduce 3-4 Mega Evolutions, with your job being to redesign them for our new metagame. You can change their non-HP stats, ability, and secondary typing, just be sure to follow the rules of Mega Evolutions, which are in the spoiler tag below.
A longer more detailed list of rules and guidelines can be found in the OP of the Megas For All here, but this mod won't share every rule they have (and some of their rules are specific to Gens 7-9). In general, the rules for submissions are as follows:
- You can only submit 1 Mega Evolution per Mega Pokémon slated. For example, if the slate includes Mega Beedrill, Lopunny, and Pidgeot, you can make 1 submission for each of them, but you can't make 2 Mega Beedrill submissions.
- Megas always share at least 1 typing with their base form. This type is always its primary typing, though you will be allowed to just retain its secondary typing if you have a good reason.
- You can only give Mega Evolutions 1 Ability. This can be a completely new ability or an ability from a later generation if you want, just don't do anything too crazy (as I'm going to be coding it) and don't add anything that sets or interacts with things not in Gen 6 (like Psychic Surge, for example). You are also allowed to edit the effects of Parental Bond, as it's the only ability exclusive to 1 Mega.
- Mega Evolutions have exactly 100 more BST than their base forms and their HP stats never change. Some trends exist with how Megas boost or lower stats, but the best advice I can give is to simply be reasonable and make sure you have a good reason to do anything crazy.
- You may add moves to the Pokémon you're submitting for. This allows you to give the Pokémon a movepool that allows it to fully use the stats, typing, and/or ability you design it around, like Lopunny getting High Jump Kick or Heracross gaining Bullet Seed and Rock Blast. To start I will allow you to add as many moves as you want, but you must add moves with reason. Don't add a bunch of flavor moves that the Pokemon will never realistically use, especially since flavor is less of a focus here as Megas will use the same designs as their original Mega forms. Also remember that the base form of the Pokémon can use the moves you give it. Moves can't be removed from the Pokemon with the exception of Seismic Toss on Kangaskhan, which can be removed if you want to keep Parental Bond on it.
- Submissions that are too powerful or don't follow the rules may be vetoed and disqualified from voting. I will give a warning 24 hours before the end of submissions to point out any submissions that are likely to get vetoed.
- You can only submit 1 Mega Evolution per Mega Pokémon slated. For example, if the slate includes Mega Beedrill, Lopunny, and Pidgeot, you can make 1 submission for each of them, but you can't make 2 Mega Beedrill submissions.
- Megas always share at least 1 typing with their base form. This type is always its primary typing, though you will be allowed to just retain its secondary typing if you have a good reason.
- You can only give Mega Evolutions 1 Ability. This can be a completely new ability or an ability from a later generation if you want, just don't do anything too crazy (as I'm going to be coding it) and don't add anything that sets or interacts with things not in Gen 6 (like Psychic Surge, for example). You are also allowed to edit the effects of Parental Bond, as it's the only ability exclusive to 1 Mega.
- Mega Evolutions have exactly 100 more BST than their base forms and their HP stats never change. Some trends exist with how Megas boost or lower stats, but the best advice I can give is to simply be reasonable and make sure you have a good reason to do anything crazy.
- You may add moves to the Pokémon you're submitting for. This allows you to give the Pokémon a movepool that allows it to fully use the stats, typing, and/or ability you design it around, like Lopunny getting High Jump Kick or Heracross gaining Bullet Seed and Rock Blast. To start I will allow you to add as many moves as you want, but you must add moves with reason. Don't add a bunch of flavor moves that the Pokemon will never realistically use, especially since flavor is less of a focus here as Megas will use the same designs as their original Mega forms. Also remember that the base form of the Pokémon can use the moves you give it. Moves can't be removed from the Pokemon with the exception of Seismic Toss on Kangaskhan, which can be removed if you want to keep Parental Bond on it.
- Submissions that are too powerful or don't follow the rules may be vetoed and disqualified from voting. I will give a warning 24 hours before the end of submissions to point out any submissions that are likely to get vetoed.
Voting Phase (1 Day)
After the submission phase is over, voting will begin. This mod will be using the same voting system as Book of Enigmas, where you can vote for as many submissions as you want, with each submission getting a certain number of points based on how you ranked it. An example can be seen below.
For a slate with Mega Beedrill, Mega Lopunny, and Mega Pidgeot, for example, a ballot would look like this:
Beedrill: User 1, User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9
With this ballot, Submission 1 for Mega Beedrill would get 3 points, Submission 2 would get 2, and Submission 3 would get 1. The same goes for Submissions 4, 5, and 6 in the Lopunny category and Submissions 7, 8, and 9 in the Pidgeot category, with them getting 3, 2, and 1 point respectively.
You can add as many submissions are you'd like after your third vote, with each one getting 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1, User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
So, in this ballot, Submissions 10 and 11 would also get 1 point in the Pidgeot category.
You can vote for your own submission, but it can't be in first place or your only vote in that category. Be sure to mark your self-vote by putting (SV) after it.
Beedrill: User 12 (SV), User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is in first place in the Beedrill category
Beedrill: User 12 (SV)
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This also wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is the only vote in the Beedrill category
Beedrill: User 2, User 12 (SV)
Lopunny: User 4, User 12 (SV), User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 12 (SV), User 10, User 11
This is a legal ballot because none of the self-votes are in first place or the only vote in a category.
If you vote for only 2 submissions in a category, the first place submission gets 2 points and the second place submission gets 1 point. If you vote for just one, then that submission gets 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1 (1 point)
Lopunny: User 4 (2 points), User 5 (1 point)
Pidgeot: User 7 (3 points), User 8 (2 points), User 9 (1 point), User 10 (1 point), User 11 (1 point)
Beedrill: User 1, User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9
With this ballot, Submission 1 for Mega Beedrill would get 3 points, Submission 2 would get 2, and Submission 3 would get 1. The same goes for Submissions 4, 5, and 6 in the Lopunny category and Submissions 7, 8, and 9 in the Pidgeot category, with them getting 3, 2, and 1 point respectively.
You can add as many submissions are you'd like after your third vote, with each one getting 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1, User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
So, in this ballot, Submissions 10 and 11 would also get 1 point in the Pidgeot category.
You can vote for your own submission, but it can't be in first place or your only vote in that category. Be sure to mark your self-vote by putting (SV) after it.
Beedrill: User 12 (SV), User 2, User 3
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is in first place in the Beedrill category
Beedrill: User 12 (SV)
Lopunny: User 4, User 5, User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 9, User 10, User 11
This also wouldn't be a legal ballot as the self-vote is the only vote in the Beedrill category
Beedrill: User 2, User 12 (SV)
Lopunny: User 4, User 12 (SV), User 6
Pidgeot: User 7, User 8, User 12 (SV), User 10, User 11
This is a legal ballot because none of the self-votes are in first place or the only vote in a category.
If you vote for only 2 submissions in a category, the first place submission gets 2 points and the second place submission gets 1 point. If you vote for just one, then that submission gets 1 point.
Beedrill: User 1 (1 point)
Lopunny: User 4 (2 points), User 5 (1 point)
Pidgeot: User 7 (3 points), User 8 (2 points), User 9 (1 point), User 10 (1 point), User 11 (1 point)
For most slates, the next submission phase will start immediately after voting ends for the previous slate. The long submission phase will still give ample time for discussion and playtesting during the week so you can adjust your submissions. However, every 3 slates or so, one or more roomtours will be held so we can see what state the metagame is in. This may result in winning submissions being nerfed or buffed, depending on what we learn. Buffs and nerfs (mostly nerfs) can also happen at any other time as we learn stuff between roomtours.
Playtesting Phase (Every ~3 Slates, 1-2 Days)
As mentioned above, we will have roomtours about every 3 slates so we can see how the metagame is and see if any winning submissions need to be adjusted. Roomtours will be held on DragonHeaven unless stated otherwise.
Council
YoshiblazeGekokesoDouble Iron BashPaulluxxBasic Template:
Megas For All Template (Created by Hematite):
For types, you can insert type images like this
with this link (replace Type with the type you want)
Example Submission
Name: Mega Charizard X
Type:
Ability: Tough Claws
Stats: 78 / 130 (+46) / 111 (+33) / 130 (+21) / 85 / 100 [634 BST]
New Moves: N/A
Description: Mega Charizard X can act as a dangerous Dragon Dance sweeper with strong Tough Claws-boosted moves in Flare Blitz, Outrage, Dragon Claw, and Thunder Punch. A unique defensive typing and decent bulk makes setting up much easier, made even easier with Roost. Walled by very bulky Water-types, Heatran (if you don't run EQ), and checked by Landorus-T.
Code:
:sm/pokemon:
[b]Name[/b]: Mega <Pokémon>
[b]Type[/b]:
[b]Ability[/b]:
[b]Stats[/b]: HP / Atk / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe [BST]
[b]New Moves[/b]:
[b]Description[/b]: (Describe how your submission fits into the metagame, what it does, what it checks/counters, what it gets checked/countered by, why you would use it, etc.)Megas For All Template (Created by Hematite):
Code:
:pokemon: [b]Mega <Pokémon>
New Ability[/b]:
[b]Type[/b]:
[b][u]Stats[/u][/b]:
HP:
Attack:
Defense:
Special Attack:
Special Defense:
Speed:
(BST)
[b]New Moves[/b]:
[b]Description[/b]:https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/types/Type.pngExample Submission
Name: Mega Charizard X
Type:
Ability: Tough Claws
Stats: 78 / 130 (+46) / 111 (+33) / 130 (+21) / 85 / 100 [634 BST]
New Moves: N/A
Description: Mega Charizard X can act as a dangerous Dragon Dance sweeper with strong Tough Claws-boosted moves in Flare Blitz, Outrage, Dragon Claw, and Thunder Punch. A unique defensive typing and decent bulk makes setting up much easier, made even easier with Roost. Walled by very bulky Water-types, Heatran (if you don't run EQ), and checked by Landorus-T.
Pokémon: User, User, User, etc.
Pokémon: User, User, User, etc.
Pokémon: User, User, User, etc.
Pokémon: User, User, User, etc.
Pokémon: User, User, User, etc.
Discord
Spreadsheet (Condensed Version by The Damned)
Playable Here or Here
ORAS Resources - These resources are specific to the ORAS metagame, which has the old Megas, but may still be useful to you for non-Mega Pokemon
ORAS Strategy Dex - For sample sets for non-Mega Pokemon
Resources (Can also be found below this post)
Ladder Challenge Leaderboard
Spreadsheet (Condensed Version by The Damned)
Playable Here or Here
ORAS Resources - These resources are specific to the ORAS metagame, which has the old Megas, but may still be useful to you for non-Mega Pokemon
ORAS Strategy Dex - For sample sets for non-Mega Pokemon
Resources (Can also be found below this post)
Ladder Challenge Leaderboard
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