SV OU Gen 9 OU: Death by a thousand cuts

[Vryx]

So, I got an idea from a youtuber doing Scarlet/Violet jank playthrough and decided to try to make a team of off one of his principles: Sandstorm.
I wanted to get access to both Sandstorm and Hail, so I have two pokemon for that. The rest are designed to be defensive and heal themselves, only to be swapped out to either reset weather or for type matchups.

You'll see a lot of leftovers on the team. Had to raid a couple families' refrigerators to get all the leftovers needed! But it does help with life expectancy, especially since most of them will be hurt by the weather effects.

Keep in mind; I've been playing this for maybe an hour and a half, and realizing this is very much a weak set up.

Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Sandstorm
- Substitute
- Crunch
- Rock Slide

This was my first idea. Go in to sandstorm, have some attacks to help out, and sandstorm move to refresh if he's somehow still there. I gave him high defenses so as to help him survive.

Abomasnow @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Giga Drain
- Blizzard

This is the snow guy. Sadly Hail is banned so he's just going to have to take Protect instead. He also has two attacks, with STAB bonus on each because it helps. More high defenses, and Never-Melt Ice was just the item I picked to help in case he needs to attack.

Hatterene (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Healer
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Protect
- Rest

My attempt at a special defensive. Twin wall is always a good setup, especially since I want to play defensively. I run protect as much as possible, usually switching between that and a healing move to get maximum use out of my defensive builds.

Avalugg @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
- Iron Defense
- Substitute
- Avalanche
- Ice Fang

The physical defender. He just needs to tank hits. High HP so as to allow him to work against special attackers, but should do fine against physicals.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Light Screen
- Substitute

I wanted someone who could heal more than the leftovers, and she works well! She doubles as a special defense, and being able to combo Substitute and Soft-Boiled works very well!

Alomomola @ Leftovers
Ability: Healer
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Calm Mind
- Light Screen
- Substitute

Honestly just needed a sixth member. More special defense. Another protect stall. And was hoping to use Baton Pass, but instead got Calm mind to help out.

 

[MurderousMantyke]

Ftr snow replaced hail in sv, and it doesn't deal damage.

 

[Vryx]

How else would I improve my team?

 

[doc1203]

Try running attacking moves
Just a tip

 

[bilb owo]

Try running attacking moves
Just a tip

I personally prefer the synergy of defensive moves alongside high defenses so as to help them survive.

 

[Soosthemoose]

If you want to play defensively, weather is not the best option, as it is usually a more balanced/offensive play style. A good defensive stall team was posted on this forum a couple of weeks ago here: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/gholdengo-hazard-stack-boots-spam-stall.3711224/#post-9413544

If you would like to play a weather team, stick with just one weather. Right now, sun and rain are the best, due to the amount of strong abusers.

 

[VHasComeTo]

honestly everyone here seems like a sitting duck
this is like a stall where everyone just stands there and does nothing except waste turns
why is hatt not running magic bounce?
why is alomomola not running regen?
why is avalugg not sturdy (wit it)?
why is blissey and abomasnow even there???

 

[Vryx]

honestly everyone here seems like a sitting duck
this is like a stall where everyone just stands there and does nothing except waste turns

That's the point. Kill with weather.

why is hatt not running magic bounce?

I didn't think of that! More enemy turns wasted!

why is alomomola not running regen?

I thought that was a hidden ability?

why is avalugg not sturdy (wit it)?

Hidden ability?

why is blissey and abomasnow even there???

Blissey heal's a lot and Abomasnow does snow, so that I can hit pokemon not affected by sand.

 

[Turtlek]

Uuuuuuuurgh so snow doesn’t hit Pokémon btw, as Alomola has not Regenerator, it has to run wish over CM, it would also help keeping Tyranitar healthy, Hydration would be better on alomimila, ting lu with Spikes and sr is a better weakener that abonasnow

 

[Vryx]

I though snowstorms hurt non ice pokemon?

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

I though snowstorms hurt non ice pokemon?

They used to. Now Hail was changed to Snow which just gives Ice a defense boost.

 

[Vryx]

They used to. Now Hail was changed to Snow which just gives Ice a defense boost.

That sucks...

 

[xOliver]

This entire team loses to any actual offensive threat

 

[VHasComeTo]

That's the point. Kill with weather.

all of your mons besides ttar get hit by sandstorm
i think hard stall is quite lacking this gen, use some offensive mons otherwise you're going to get run over by anything with an attack stat higher than 5

 

[Turtlek]

In fact TSS was a very viable tactic in ADV, to transfer this in 9g I think a core with those can work:
Alomola to WishPass, Regenerator if you can
Tytar to weaken
Clodsire to Toxic, set Tspikes, it’ immune to sand.
Ting Lu can set hazards
Gholdengo is also immune to sand and help hazards not being removed
Avalugg is viable with Recover, Spin and Body Press

It really seems like a troll though

 

[Giyu]

That's the point. Kill with weather.

You can't rely on weather to do your damage. It's such a miniscule amount, literally any Pokemon with recovery will just heal it off. You also just lose to any offensive threat.

 

[Nippleduster]

average stall fan rmt

 

[Turtlek]

I don’t think it’s possible to be that not good at this game. Either you’re trolling or you really need help

 

[VHasComeTo]

i would LOVE to believe that he's trolling considering that most of his team has 0 attacking/status moves
no good abilities and basically every single mon has protect

I thought that was a hidden ability?



Hidden ability?

you can use hidden abilities too yk

 

[Giyu]

i would LOVE to believe that he's trolling considering that most of his team has 0 attacking/status moves
no good abilities and basically every single mon has protect


you can use hidden abilities too yk

They mentioned this is a playthrough of the actual game, they will probably hesitate using Hidden Abilities due to obtainability.

 

[VHasComeTo]

They mentioned this is a playthrough of the actual game, they will probably hesitate using Hidden Abilities due to obtainability.

oh that makes sense, ig they don't know much about showdown then

 

[Vryx]

They mentioned this is a playthrough of the actual game, they will probably hesitate using Hidden Abilities due to obtainability.

It's based on a playthrough, I want to try to use the tactic in competitive. I'm not trying to troll, just doing something weird/stupid/unconventional

 

[Giyu]

It's based on a playthrough, I want to try to use the tactic in competitive. I'm not trying to troll, just doing something weird/stupid/unconventional

Well, if you want your team rated, weird/stupid/unconventional strategies will most likely be changed by the raters.

 

[Vryx]

Well, if you want your team rated, weird/stupid/unconventional strategies will most likely be changed by the raters.

I understand, I want to perfect the strategy, even if it will bever win a tournament

 

[Dusk Mage Necrozma]

I understand, I want to perfect the strategy, even if it will bever win a tournament

Stall is an existing strategy, which can be good and has won tournaments. This is not a good stall team.