Gen III Battle Frontier Discussion and Records
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Things to keep in mind:
- Regular Smogon and Orange Islands forum rules apply.
- Feel free to discuss anything about the teams and strategies you use, the enemy Pokemon and movesets you encounter, and your streak successes and failures. Theory-moning is encouraged as well. Free form discussion is really helpful, so don't be shy, even if you're posting about a very early loss or a poorly optimized team.
- Please do not make claims about AI "cheating", be it through influencing probability (100% accurate Sheer Colds), coded counter-teaming, impossible abilities (e.g. Lightning Rod Zapdos), etc. Every generation, people make crazy claims about how the AI cheats. Many such claims prove demonstrably untrue, while for all others, there's been no solid evidence. If you want to post about how you lost to Sheer Cold Smeargle, you better have a battle video to back up your claims.
- Reliable information on how the AI plays is most appreciated. For example, the AI Pokemon don't switch out, even when Tricked a Choice Band while using a non-damaging move. Also, the AI still try to use status moves when you're behind a Substitutes. The more information we have, the better our streaks can get.
- Any other useful information concerning the Battle Frontier is also appreciated. Examples include that Dragonite and Tyranitar do not appear in level 50 challenges, and Soul Dew does not give any stat boosts when held in challenges.
- Don't cheat (this includes save stating or restoring save files to avoid losses). Streaks using hacked or genned Pokemon will not be leaderboard eligible.
- Due to the hardware limitations of Gen 3, I will be allowing the use of these glitches only applicable for the following scenarios:
- Pomeg glitch will only be allowed only for:
- Glitching breedable parents (The parent itself will not be allowed due to illegal met data).
- Reaching Southern Island and other event places.
- Pike glitch will only be allowed for:
- Sketching legal egg move combinations.
- Recover or teach forgotten pre-evolution or level-up moves (Except for moves not available over +Lv.50 and not eligible in Level 50 mode).
- Level-up moves that can be passed down as egg-moves (Such as Megahorn on Heracross).
- Repeated use of moves lock behind move tutors that will only teach a move once per save file (Such as Substitute or Double Edge).
- The Battle Tower glitch (RS) will only be allowed for:
- Obtaining a roamer Latios with higher IVs on Ruby/Sapphire. Any other Pokemon will not be allowed.
- Pomeg glitch will only be allowed only for:
For more information on the glitches that are allowed and not allowed check this post.
- This is not a court of law. I reserve myself the right to reject sufficiently dubious streaks even without absolute proof of cheating.
Leaderboard Requirements:
- All records require an importable of the team used. A description is appreciated, but not mandatory.
- Records on emulators are eligible. Records on retail and emulator will be marked differently so that others wanting to replicate the streak are aware. Due to how easy it is to cheat streaks on emulator, having concrete proof such as recorded videos or detailed write-ups is heavily encouraged.
- Streaks must be done on legitimate copies of the game. Emulator streaks must be done on unedited ROMs. Bootlegs or fan-translations will not be allowed.
- When posting a record, please make it clear the facility it is for, what level you challenged at (if applicable), and whether you played on retail or emulator.
- Any record equal to or greater than the required wins for Gold Symbol of their respective facility (see below) requires some form of proof. A short description of your overall streak, how it ended and with a photo from a camera or a screenshot of the emulator from your latest record.
- Battle Tower: 70 wins
- Battle Arena: 56 wins
- Battle Factory: 42 wins
- Battle Palace: 42 wins
- Battle Dome: 10 tournaments (40 rounds)
- Battle Pike: 10 passes through (70 rounds)
- Battle Pyramid: 10 rounds (70 floors)
If you have any suggestions, please let me know. Best of luck to everyone!
Potentially Useful Resources:
Smogon Resources:
- Battle Frontier Max Stats Pokemon Database (Hozu’s post)
- Hozu’s spreadsheet
- Battle Frontier Speed Tiers (Level 100)
- Battle Pyramid Wild Pokemon Guide by Expert Evan
- Battle Frontier Damage Calculator by turskain
Forum Resources:
- Battle Tower Guide by Kommo-o
- Battle Frontier mechanics guide by atsync
- Gen 3 Tierlist usage for Battle Frontier
- Golden Blissey's Pyramid Floor Layout
- Eisenherz's translation of mystic251's blog
- Dome Speedtiers by Adedede
- Bank of Hoenn server
- Frontier Assistant by Actaeon
- Dome Assistant by Actaeon
- Gen 3 Threatlist Summary by dgice
- RNG Resources Thread
- JoebertIII's Battle Factory Guide
Previous Gen III Battle Frontier Threads:
Emerald Battle Frontier Guide PLEASE HELP DEVELOPING
Gen 3 Battle Frontier Record thread
The Battle Frontier discussion thread!
Bulbapedia Pages:
- Gen III Battle Frontier
- Battle Arena
- Battle Dome
- Battle Factory
- Battle Palace
- Battle Pike
- Battle Pyramid
- Battle Tower
- List of Trainers
Pokemon Emerald Gold Symbols Speedrun FAQs:
All Gold Symbols FAQ by Werster
A RMT for a Battle Frontier team (The legendary team by Jumpman16)
Dans Macabre (Battle Tower Singles by Adedede)
Team Azure (Battle Tower Singles by Kommo-o)
Monotype runs (with all 17 types by Actaeon)
Cancerstall fibbonacci (by Actaeon)
State of Art teams (by Actaeon)
Emerald Frontier Challenge! (based on the Pokemon Adventures manga) by green_typhlosion
The Not So Normal Accurpressure by wtset
Dans Macabre (Battle Tower Singles by Adedede)
Team Azure (Battle Tower Singles by Kommo-o)
Monotype runs (with all 17 types by Actaeon)
Cancerstall fibbonacci (by Actaeon)
State of Art teams (by Actaeon)
Emerald Frontier Challenge! (based on the Pokemon Adventures manga) by green_typhlosion
The Not So Normal Accurpressure by wtset
Special thanks to the following. No contribution is too small!
Golden Blissey
Actaeon
Adedede
atsync
Expert Evan
FriendOfMrGolem120
McMeghan
Miss Cottonee
Nelson Tangela
oiponabys
SoulWind
Texas Cloverleaf
Thomaz
wtset
submenceisop
green_typhlosion
And of course, the Orange Island mods:
Codraroll
DHR-107
NoCheese
Eisenherz
Golden Blissey
Actaeon
Adedede
atsync
Expert Evan
FriendOfMrGolem120
McMeghan
Miss Cottonee
Nelson Tangela
oiponabys
SoulWind
Texas Cloverleaf
Thomaz
wtset
submenceisop
green_typhlosion
And of course, the Orange Island mods:
Codraroll
DHR-107
NoCheese
Eisenherz
Discussion Threads for Other Generations:
Gen II - Crystal Battle Tower Discussion
4th Generation Battle Facilities Discussion and Records
Black & White Battle Subway Records
Battle Maison Discussion & Records
Battle Tree Discussion and Records
8th Generation Battle Tower Discussion & Records
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