Because Z moves can only be used once per battle, and I have a sinking suspicion GF isn't insane enough to let us carry around both a mega and a z moves separately.
....then again, Mega Rayquaza.
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Gen VII: Pokemon Sun and Moon Discussion MKII
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....then again, Mega Rayquaza.
Why not Instructing a Xerneas to Geomancy again? (Assuming it will not skip the charging turn, of course)Can you imagine if Instruct works on Z moves? I highly doubt it because if it does, we may end up with situations like this:
"Hey Oranguru, look at what I can do!"
"That was cool. Do it again."
That would be a completely passive turn in Doubles, which is really hard to pull off and I don't see that changing anytime soon.Can you imagine if Instruct works on Z moves? I highly doubt it because if it does, we may end up with situations like this:
"Hey Oranguru, look at what I can do!"
"That was cool. Do it again."
Double target that Eeeve.
Dead Eevee.
Sad Oranguru.
If that is the case that pair's going to end up a little busted in double battles.Can you imagine if Instruct works on Z moves? I highly doubt it because if it does, we may end up with situations like this:
"Hey Oranguru, look at what I can do!"
"That was cool. Do it again."
I assume that it would only be able to skip the charging turn the first time it uses the move, though. After all, Power Herb is a consumable item.
CatastroPika: I think this is only time I have found Pikachu cute.
Extreme EvoBoost: At first, I didn't care about this move, but after reading the comments in this thread, I think I would like to try it. Specially if the other Eeveelutions get access to it.
Passmian: Did- Did the least believable part of the Chinese leak just get confirmed???
Oranguru: Why do I feel it will be a pain to defeat at Double Battles?
Lycanroc: I guess I'm going to get bad fursona. *sigh* Hopefully, there will be something in Moon that I like.
Extreme EvoBoost: At first, I didn't care about this move, but after reading the comments in this thread, I think I would like to try it. Specially if the other Eeveelutions get access to it.
Passmian: Did- Did the least believable part of the Chinese leak just get confirmed???
Oranguru: Why do I feel it will be a pain to defeat at Double Battles?
Lycanroc: I guess I'm going to get bad fursona. *sigh* Hopefully, there will be something in Moon that I like.
+4 in both defensive stats is enough to tank hits though, but yeah, Eevee would have to set up at least a little bit BEFORE being double targeted I guess.
So your plan is to set up so you can set up ...in doubles? Good luck have fun.
A scary thought just came to mind:
What could Smeargle do with Instruct? o.O
What could Smeargle do with Instruct? o.O
You misunderstand me, I'm saying that if Eevee outsped the opponent and got up its boosts before it was double targeted, it could live the turn and Baton Pass out to something, but I'm agreeing with you that Eevee isn't super fast so it would be difficult.
Monkey things look cool. Wonder why Rockruff's evo's midnight form isn't part dark but whatever. Even more shocked that they didn't even mention AccelRock, or whatever its English name will be.
What would happen if you Instruct a Smeargle that is going to Sketch Instruct? o.O x2
Dang, this trailer was crazy. It's giving competitive players all sorts of heart attacks. I know that this thread isn't meant for competitive discussion, but I just wanted to point out some of the possibilities with the new abilities and moves from the trailer that may not be as obvious.
In other news, the new trainer customization is interesting. It's great that we can change the color of our clothes now. I just hope that Festival Coins will be easy to accumulate.
- Passmian: It's new ability, Receiver. There are the obvious things that you can do with this, such as having Passmian gain Moody or some other dangerous ability. What's not so obvious is that Receiver might work on Wonder Guard, because Trace also works on Wonder Guard. Imagine pairing Passmian with Shedinja, and having Shedinja suicide with Final Gambit or Sandstorm.
- Oranguru: Instruct is giving VGC players heart attacks all over. It is obviously super good in Doubles, and the scariest part is that Smeargle, the bane of VGC, will be able to get this move.
- Eevee's Z-move. Extreme Evoboost into Baton Pass is the obvious part. Extreme Evoboost into Stored Power is also a possibility that is just as dangerous and has the possibility to OHKO the likes of Garchomp.
In other news, the new trainer customization is interesting. It's great that we can change the color of our clothes now. I just hope that Festival Coins will be easy to accumulate.
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So I'm not sure if it's just lazily/badly translated, but the german site mentions Accelerock like this: "This move has especially high priority."
(like, if it was just a normal priority move , the word "Erstschlaggarantie" (basically means "guarantee to strike first") would be enough, but they say it has a especially high one)
This sounds like +2 or something to me, but maybe it's just not written correctly. Now if it really is +2 it would make it even better at checking Talonflame.
Cool news overall. I like Oranguru, hopefully it can have a hidden ability that helps it in singles.
Really hate how there's evolutions based on a specific version of the games, though I did plan on getting both eventually anyway..
Edit: also sad about not being able to transfer Pokemon back to Gen 6. Guess they were too lazy to check for new Pokemon and new moves on old Pokemon...
(like, if it was just a normal priority move , the word "Erstschlaggarantie" (basically means "guarantee to strike first") would be enough, but they say it has a especially high one)
This sounds like +2 or something to me, but maybe it's just not written correctly. Now if it really is +2 it would make it even better at checking Talonflame.
Cool news overall. I like Oranguru, hopefully it can have a hidden ability that helps it in singles.
Really hate how there's evolutions based on a specific version of the games, though I did plan on getting both eventually anyway..
Edit: also sad about not being able to transfer Pokemon back to Gen 6. Guess they were too lazy to check for new Pokemon and new moves on old Pokemon...
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Hasn't it always been this way with cross-generation transfers since Gen III?
Yes, but we also haven't had anything like bank before.
Bank can also do things like stop you transferring dragon ascent rayquaza back to XY. I wonder why it wouldn't just do something similar when transferring back to gen 6, and stop you transferring anything new to gen 7?
That'd be the usual data reconfiguration that happens every new gen, I would assume. Either they've lost previously existing info, which would be shoddy storage at this point, or more likely they don't want the inconsistency caused by doing the following:
[ORAS pokemon]-----> move to SUN ------> Plays SUN minigame, wins SUN promotional scarf for pokemon (as an example)------> move to bank, then back to ORAS ----> Scarf no longer viewable in ORAS -----> move back to SUN ----> but where is scarf??????
Eevee is going to Ubers because of that awesome Z-Move.
Not gonna talk about all of that trailer, but Doubles just got a whole lot crazier.
I love the new Pikachu Z-Move, because that gives me an excuse to take a Pikachu and throw it into the sea, a big fire, or a bomb. I don't like Pikachu so I can get rid of it by using its Z-Move and throwing it far away. :P
Not gonna talk about all of that trailer, but Doubles just got a whole lot crazier.
I love the new Pikachu Z-Move, because that gives me an excuse to take a Pikachu and throw it into the sea, a big fire, or a bomb. I don't like Pikachu so I can get rid of it by using its Z-Move and throwing it far away. :P
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