GSC Doubles OU Kickoff Tour [CANCELLED]

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Arcanine1929 said:
and we get no response... it defo should be tho like wth. Did yall play and just not post replays or smth? im honestly really confused
also idk how this bracket plays only winners round 2... idk just wondering, kinda weird but might be smth with signups i dont host tours lol :)
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Don't really know how to handle this situation tbh. Copen vs geko wasn't listed in the original round 1 matchups post, which is likely where the confusion came from, and now round 2 is already underway with new pairings. It seems like the round 2 pairings were already made with the original round 1 pairings with Copen having a bye in mind, so that would be what I go with.
 
silly worm said:
Don't really know how to handle this situation tbh. Copen vs geko wasn't listed in the original round 1 matchups post, which is likely where the confusion came from, and now round 2 is already underway with new pairings. It seems like the round 2 pairings were already made with the original round 1 pairings with Copen having a bye in mind, so that would be what I go with.
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The situation was handled the day of by Clas giving Geko and Woo their matchups, then overturned by Copen for some reason or another. Even if we're going off of the listed round 1 pairings, in Copen's post she gave the act win to Big Thicc Blissey over Devious Flamingo, despite the Round 1 post having Big Thicc Blissey facing woo, who actually played. All Copen's had to say over it is "ignore your previous matchup" (the only message acknowledging it exists) without actually putting woo or Geko in the tournament. It's also incredibly concerning that Copen, in a money tour, is ignoring sign-ups and granting herself illegal act calls. (And, just to be clear--I'm giving Copen the benefit of the doubt here, but it's not exactly a secret why those two in particular were left out.)

By waiting a week to handle this you've already bungled the situation, but letting things proceed as-is with apathy and nonchalance is probably the worst way to handle this. Do better.
 
I was told to play Devious Flamingo, but since they didn't show up to our time I did take the initiative to play woo, as that was the og matchup anyways.

My current opp has not logged in since January so looks like that will be activity as well
 
cyclonez_ said:
The situation was handled the day of by Clas giving Geko and Woo their matchups, then overturned by Copen for some reason or another. Even if we're going off of the listed round 1 pairings, in Copen's post she gave the act win to Big Thicc Blissey over Devious Flamingo, despite the Round 1 post having Big Thicc Blissey facing woo, who actually played. All Copen's had to say over it is "ignore your previous matchup" (the only message acknowledging it exists) without actually putting woo or Geko in the tournament. It's also incredibly concerning that Copen, in a money tour, is ignoring sign-ups and granting herself illegal act calls. (And, just to be clear--I'm giving Copen the benefit of the doubt here, but it's not exactly a secret why those two in particular were left out.)

By waiting a week to handle this you've already bungled the situation, but letting things proceed as-is with apathy and nonchalance is probably the worst way to handle this. Do better.
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There is no situation to handle, woo and Gekokeso are not in the tour for reasons they are well aware of. I am not granting myself "illegal act calls" because there is no act to be called. I'm not sure why you're concerned about a tour you're not apart of either. I apologize for Clastia putting them in the round despite me telling them not to.
 
Copen said:
There is no situation to handle, woo and Gekokeso are not in the tour for reasons they are well aware of. I am not granting myself "illegal act calls" because there is no act to be called. I'm not sure why you're concerned about a tour you're not apart of either. I apologize for Clastia putting them in the round despite me telling them not to.
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why aren't they in the tour, though? they clearly expressed their desire to play by signing up.
 
Big Thicc Blissey said:
Playing with Rojo Wednesday if we can have an extension
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Granted.

Larry said:
why aren't they in the tour, though? they clearly expressed their desire to play by signing up.
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This is not relevant to the current ongoing tour, and making a post on it will further derail the thread.

If anyone has questions, turn them to the Discord, and not this thread. I'd advise everyone to not talk about a decision that will not be changed any longer in this thread.
 
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Copen said:
Granted.


This is not relevant to the current ongoing tour, and making a post on it will further derail the thread.

If anyone has questions, turn them to the Discord, and not this thread. I'd advise everyone to not talk about a decision that will not be changed any longer in this thread.
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Hey, I think its pretty relevant, actually, since it directly affects the tour. I also think it's incredibly shady to refuse to talk about it in the thread - considering transparency and all, its what teamtours have administrative decisions threads for, so I'd really like for you to elaborate on this in a public space if you don't mind. I believe this is especially important because there's money involved, seeing how this tour has a cash prize.
 
Round 3!

Act calls: jam vs AIRedzone: no visible scheduling, coinflip
veti vs LovelyLuna: scheduling, but both opponents missed time/no act call done, coinflip
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Loser's Bracket (winners do not play this round)
Soda_Eesti  vs  skippergamez
Devious flamigo  vs  Northdakotan
Internet Wanderer  vs  Medeia
veti  vs  Arcanine1929
Shiritu  vs  NinjaSnapple
AIRedzone  vs  Blue (Ronin)
Fangame10  vs  Charliezard7
AKhant  vs  (Loser of Rojo53 vs Big Thicc Blissey)

Deadline is Monday, Feburary 17th at 11:59 PM (GMT -8). You can play on either PS, Smogtours, or DH but Smogtours or PS are still the default in the case of a disagreement.

All Round 1 matches have been commented on YouTube by me and silly worm! Round 2 matches are going up this week.
 
Senior Staff is ending this tournament, due to severe hosting irregularities in a money tour.

Excluding users from joining a tour is not inherently unreasonable (subforums might prevent people from joining tournaments if banned from their official discord, for example). However, in all cases where this happens the users should have a reasonable ability to know ahead of time, either from direct communication or, ideally, the exclusion being part of the signups OP, and staff approving the tournament should know ahead of time so it can be either ironed out or backed up by staff. Neither happened in this tournament.

Tournaments that plan to offer a cash prize should inform the staff who approve the tour ahead of time, so they can be aware of potential logistical issues (such as escrow in cases where it's necessary, helping with advertising, etc.), and also because adding stakes to a tour immediately increases how much attention it gets and how much scrutiny it's going to be under. If a prize is offered, then everything must be above board - the site cannot tolerate mismanagement when hosting a prize tour. This did not happen.

Decisions made which change how a tour is generated and hosted should be communicated to involved users to prevent confusion. For example, if a tournament is going to exclude specific signups such that a round 1 bracket is being generated from a list rather than a link to the thread, this should be explained to the person generating the bracket and any cohosts, so that they do not accidentally include people who were not meant to be in the tour. Telling these users after the fact, not being fully clear with them about the extent of exclusions or the reasons behind them, and then blaming them publicly afterwards is absolutely incorrect. To be completely clear, Clas is not responsible for what's happened in this tour and has not made any errors of their own as far as I have been able to find.

I apologize to the players who were participating in this tournament for cancelling it under you, but the forums will not continue a prize tournament that is being run like this.
 
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