focus blast is used to hit tyranitar(4x SE)/heatran hard, especially if hydriegon is used in the rain where flamethrower/fire blast will have their power halved.flametrower>focus blast?
why would you go timid/252 with base 99 speed? base 100 you can make an argument for, but otherwise i can't see it. what does it outspeed? much better off going modest and making sure you can outspeed another speed tier.I've always thought the standard SubDreigon should be:
Hydreigon (M) @ Leftovers Trait: Levitate
EVs: 36 HP / 220 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast
You don't want certain threats outspeeding Hydreigon when you sure as hell do not need Modest with that wide variety of moves; speed is more essential for making your Dragon more universally adept to the metagame it plays in.
Your main aim is to find the right opportunity to set up Subsitute, proceeding with its naturally high Special Attack and perfect coverage. HP hits a Leftovers recovery mark with which you have bulkier Substitutes to unleash and resist any Rotom-W/Tentacruel (for example) trying to break it.
This is where you force your opponent to make the wrong move and sacrafice the Pokemon which was troubling one of your other team members from sweeping. Hydreigon is there to derail and dismantle the opponent's strategy before they get chance to execute it.
Er, it actually has base 98 speed. -_-why would you go timid/252 with base 99 speed? base 100 you can make an argument for, but otherwise i can't see it. what does it outspeed? much better off going modest and making sure you can outspeed another speed tier.
99, 98, not quite sure why you felt like you needed to go all out with the "-_-" but ok.Er, it actually has base 98 speed. -_-
Anyway, with +Spe nature and full investment, Hydreigon can outspeed CB Haxorus. It also helps Hydreigon outspeed other Hydreigons, set up a substitute while the other Hydreigon fires off a Draco Meteor. The other one will constantly reduce its own SpA, while your Hydreigon takes little loss in HP.
Also, I think this set needs a bit more bulk to warrant the use of Substitute. 36 HP EVs aren't enough to make Hydreigon bulky.
To beat Jolly Haxorus you have to use 248 Speed EVs. Is that one point of bulk really worth losing the speed tie to other max speed Hydreigon?Additionally max speed timid isn't particularly, enough to outspeed jolly Haxorus should be sufficient.
I don't think it is as viable as the rain version. Mainly because Heatran walls it, which is kinda bad.So lets get back to discussion about Hydreigon, shall we?
Would the same type of Hydreigon set be viable on a sun team? Obviously Flamethrower would be used over surf, but then you can set up on Ferrothorn and Forry even easier.
Yeah, it can't. Although if Chansey is the only thing preventing them from being swept by Hydreigon, I would say you would have your work cut out for you.Im doubting that set breaks through Blissey or Chansey, I could see it happen if you have an ass day maybe, but I am sure you can 6KO it with seismic toss before it gets too bad.
Fire Blast/Dragon Pulse/Earth Power/HP Dark (or Dark Pulse/HP Ground)?I don't think it is as viable as the rain version. Mainly because Heatran walls it, which is kinda bad.
The set in question was Sub/Charge Beam/Flamethrower/Dragon Pulse, which is walled by Heatran. I can see how having another mon walled by Heatran isn't good for a sun team though.Fire Blast/Dragon Pulse/Earth Power/HP Dark (or Dark Pulse/HP Ground)?