Gen 2 Item Clause GSC OU, Little Cup, and Ubers Resources & Discussion

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Item Clause GSC OU, Little Cup, and Ubers Resources & Discussion

Here are 22 sample teams that were created for the Gen 2 with Item clause format. The teams were created by Gustavojr, Ironbrony75, Jame$ J, Rageeeee, Revivalmaya and me, FOMG also suggested some changes to make them more viable and Alpha Male Pysduck and Sam Samantha helped us to test them. We polished the teams as much as we could, but still don´t know how good they are, so feel free to make any suggestions below.

By the way, I posted a lot of replays of this meta below the samples, that way you can have an idea of how battles behave under Item clause.

Little Cup Ubers

Team 1

Pineco (M) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Giga Drain
- Explosion
- Spikes

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Scyther (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Abra (M) @ Berry
Ability: Synchronize
Level: 5
- Psychic
- Fire Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Thunder Wave

Cubone (M) @ Thick Club
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Counter

Magby (M) @ Gold Berry
Level: 5
- Flamethrower
- Cross Chop
- Psychic
- Thunder Punch


Team 2

Teddiursa (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Pickup
Level: 5
IVs: 6 HP / 24 Atk / 24 Def
- Return
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Rest

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Flamethrower
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Scyther (M) @ Gold Berry
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Gastly (M) @ Berry
Level: 5
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Giga Drain
- Haze

Mankey (M) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Vital Spirit
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Cross Chop
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Counter

Smoochum @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Oblivious
Level: 5
- Ice Beam
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Rest


Team 3

Vulpix (M) @ Miracle Berry
Level: 5
- Flamethrower
- Body Slam
- Quick Attack
- Rest

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Psychic
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Scyther (M) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Onix (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rest

Elekid (M) @ Berry
Ability: Static
Level: 5
- Thunderbolt
- Cross Chop
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch

Slowpoke (M) @ Gold Berry
Ability: Oblivious
Level: 5
- Surf
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball


Team 4

Scyther (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Flamethrower
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Drowzee (M) @ Gold Berry
Ability: Insomnia
Level: 5
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Thunder Punch
- Thunder Wave

Poliwag (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
Level: 5
- Surf
- Body Slam
- Belly Drum
- Rest

Chikorita (M) @ Berry Juice
Level: 5
- Giga Drain
- Ancient Power
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis

Diglett (M) @ Berry
Level: 5
- Earthquake
- Sludge Bomb
- Rock Slide
- Substitute


Team 5

Voltorb @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Soundproof
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Explosion
- Thunder Wave

Scyther (M) @ Gold Berry
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Geodude (M) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Rock Head
Level: 5
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Counter

Ponyta (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Run Away
Level: 5
- Flamethrower
- Body Slam
- Double Kick
- Quick Attack

Omanyte (M) @ Berry
Level: 5
- Ancient Power
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Haze


Team 6

Houndour (M) @ Berry Juice
Ability: Early Bird
Level: 5
- Crunch
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb
- Pursuit

Chansey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Level: 5
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Curse
- Soft-Boiled

Scyther (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Swarm
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Wing Attack
- Steel Wing
- Swords Dance

Exeggcute (M) @ Gold Berry
Level: 5
- Giga Drain
- Psychic
- Explosion
- Sleep Powder

Diglett (M) @ Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
Level: 5
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Sludge Bomb
- Substitute

Machop (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Guts
Level: 5
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rest


Note: On Little Cup Ubers, Chansey, Scyther and Gold Berry are allowed (this is how Little Cup was played when it was created back in 2001).

Middle Cup

A cup for not fully evolved pokémon.

Balanced team: Kadabra, exploding Haunter, Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Bayleef and Dragonair.

Kadabra (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Thunder Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Recover

Haunter (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Explosion

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave

Jigglypuff (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Cute Charm
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Rest

Bayleef (M) @ Leftovers
- Giga Drain
- Ancient Power
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis

Dragonair (M) @ Never-Melt Ice
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Thunder Wave


Balanced team: Kadabra, Pikachu, Machoke, Belly Drum Poliwhirl, Clefairy and Charmeleon.

Kadabra (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Recover

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave

Arnold (Machoke) (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Guts
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rest

Poliwhirl (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
- Surf
- Body Slam
- Belly Drum
- Rest

Plushie (Clefairy) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Cute Charm
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Moonlight

Charmeleon (M) @ Charcoal
IVs: 26 Def
- Flamethrower
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Reflect


Balanced team: Kadabra, 4 attack Haunter, Pikachu, Ivysaur, Graveler and Wartortle.

Kadabra (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Recover

Haunter (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Giga Drain

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave

Ivysaur (M) @ Leftovers
IVs: 6 HP / 24 Atk / 28 Def
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Poison]
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

Graveler (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Rock Head
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Counter

Wartortle (M) @ Mint Berry
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Body Slam
- Rest


Balaced team: Kadabra, Pikachu, 4 attack Poliwhirl, Golbat, Jigglypuff and Graveler.

Kadabra (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Thunder Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Recover

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave

Poliwhirl (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
- Surf
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

Dracula (Golbat) (M)
IVs: 6 HP / 24 Atk / 28 Def
- Hidden Power [Poison]
- Wing Attack
- Giga Drain
- Thief

Jigglypuff (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Cute Charm
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Rest

Graveler (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Rock Head
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Counter


Balanced team: Kadabra, Destiny Bond Haunter, Pikachu, Weepinbell, Clefairy and Rest Talk Seadra.

Kadabra (M) @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Synchronize
- Psychic
- Thunder Punch
- Thunder Wave
- Recover

Haunter (M) @ Miracle Berry
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Destiny Bond

Pikachu (M) @ Light Ball
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave

Crecencio (Weepinbell) (M) @ Leftovers
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

Plushie (Clefairy) (M) @ Mystery Berry
Ability: Cute Charm
- Body Slam
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Moonlight

Seadra (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Poison Point
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk


Overused

Team 1

Raikou @ Mint Berry
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roar
- Rest

Cloyster (M) @ Pink Bow
Ability: Shell Armor
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Explosion
- Spikes

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Immunity
- Return
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Rest

Blissey (F) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Heal Bell
- Soft-Boiled

Skarmory (M) @ Bright Powder
Ability: Keen Eye
- Drill Peck
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Rest

Gengar (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Levitate
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
- Explosion


Team 2

Snorlax (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Self-Destruct

Steelix (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Rock Head
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Explosion
- Roar

Cloyster (M) @ Pink Bow
Ability: Shell Armor
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Explosion
- Spikes

Exeggutor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Chlorophyll
- Giga Drain
- Psychic
- Explosion
- Sleep Powder

Zapdos @ BrightPowder
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Machamp (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Guts
- Cross Chop
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Rest


Team 3

Forretress (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Sturdy
IVs: 6 HP / 28 Atk / 24 Def
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Explosion
- Toxic
- Spikes

Starmie @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Illuminate
- Surf
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin
- Recover

Raikou @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Pressure
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roar
- Rest

Skarmory (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Keen Eye
- Drill Peck
- Thief
- Whirlwind
- Rest

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Rest

Marowak (M) @ Thick Club
Ability: Rock Head
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Swords Dance


Team 4

Forretress (M) @ SilverPowder
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Bashful Nature
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes
- Toxic

Snorlax (M) @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Misdreavus (M) @ Leftovers
- Thunderbolt
- Mean Look
- Perish Song
- Protect

Tyranitar (M) @ Hard Stone
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Flamethrower
- Pursuit

Skarmory (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Keen Eye
- Drill Peck
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Rest

Raikou @ PRZ Cure Berry
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roar
- Rest


Team 5

Nidoking @ Soft Sand
Ability: Poison Point
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Lovely Kiss

Cloyster @ Pink Bow
Ability: Shell Armor
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Explosion
- Spikes

Snorlax @ Quick Claw
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Rest

Suicune @ Miracle Berry
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Raikou @ Mint Berry
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Roar
- Rest

Steelix @ Leftovers
Ability: Rock Head
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Curse
- Roar


Team 6

Raikou @ Miracle Berry
IVs: 26 Def
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Starmie @ PRZ Cure Berry
Ability: Illuminate
- Surf
- Psychic
- Rapid Spin
- Recover

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Immunity
- Double-Edge
- Curse
- Lovely Kiss
- Rest

Skarmory (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Keen Eye
- Drill Peck
- Thief
- Curse
- Rest

Umbreon (M) @ Mystery Berry
- Bite
- Charm
- Toxic
- Moonlight

Forretress (M) @ Polkadot Bow
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Giga Drain
- Explosion
- Spikes


Ubers

Team 1

Ho-Oh @ Mystery Berry
- Sacred Fire
- Thunderbolt
- Ancient Power
- Recover

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Rest

Lugia @ Scope Lens
- Aeroblast
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Mewtwo @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Submission
- Shadow Ball
- Curse
- Recover

Mew @ BrightPowder
- Shadow Ball
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance
- Soft-Boiled

Celebi @ Miracle Berry
- Psychic
- Leech Seed
- Heal Bell
- Recover


Team 2

Forretress (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Sturdy
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

Lugia @ Leftovers
- Aeroblast
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Blissey @ Miracle Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
- Heal Bell
- Soft-Boiled

Mewtwo @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Psychic
- Thunder
- Flamethrower
- Recover

Zapdos @ Magnet
- Thunder
- Drill Peck
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Snorlax (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Immunity
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Curse
- Rest


Team 3

Cloyster (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Shell Armor
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Explosion
- Spikes

Raikou @ Miracle Berry
- Thunder
- Crunch
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

Skarmory (M) @ Mint Berry
Ability: Keen Eye
- Drill Peck
- Toxic
- Whirlwind
- Rest

Lugia @ Leftovers
- Aeroblast
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Mewtwo @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Thunder
- Recover

Mew @ Pink Bow
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Explosion
- Swords Dance


Team 4

Mewtwo @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Self-Destruct
- Recover

Steelix (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Rock Head
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Curse
- Roar

Forretress (M) @ Pink Bow
IVs: 26 Atk / 26 Def
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Explosion
- Sandstorm
- Spikes

Lugia @ Leftovers
- Aeroblast
- Curse
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Tyranitar (M)
- Rock Slide
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

Celebi @ Miracle Berry
- Psychic
- Giga Drain
- Leech Seed
- Recover


Team 5

Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Shell Armor
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin

Umbreon (M) @ Mystery Berry
- Bite
- Charm
- Toxic
- Moonlight

Mew @ Pink Bow
- Shadow Ball
- Explosion
- Swords Dance
- Soft-Boiled

Mewtwo @ PRZ Cure Berry
- Psychic
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Snorlax (M) @ Polkadot Bow
Ability: Immunity
- Rock Slide
- Shadow Ball
- Self-Destruct
- Curse

Ho-Oh @ Miracle Berry
- Sacred Fire
- Thunderbolt
- Ancient Power
- Recover


Replays

I appear on the majority of the replays, but don´t worry, I lose many times :P

Don´t let their cute appearances fool you!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749432062

The 4 starters of gen 1 return

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-721662006

Rageeeee has fun on Little Cup

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749929632

A duel between 2 balanced teams

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-750742981

Never give up!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-750777132

Rageeeee is too good!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-750780960

No Johns Rageeeee!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-754353323

Press the Hax button!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-757765937

Scyther ditto

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-757768772

Rageeeee repeats items and gets disqualified!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759261759

The Johto starters in action!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759263636

Rageeeee VS the 5 starters of Kanto

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759725799

Maya´s first Little Cup match

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759729376

Chansey is unstoppable!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759733357

Chansey broke the meta

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-759741416

Epic Chansey sweep!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-761736734

Whac-A-Mole

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773278048

In your face Revival Maya!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773282756

Thief!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774669350

Pink Tidal destroys a noob

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-777338108

Reversal!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-777345108

Cross chop!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779353585

That´s what you get for laying Spikes

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779357801

An unexpected Onix sweep!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779375905

Fuzy rages!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779377926

Magby survived the best Reversal of Gen 2!!!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779379735

I guess we all can agree Chansey is more broken than Scyther

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779763313

Note: If you get bored during the Chansey ditto, skip to turn 53 when one of them finally dies.

Countering Chansey!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779784368

Vulpix, so cute! :3

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780279904

Fight at the elementary school yard

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781248641

Belly drum!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781253061

Explosion!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781259290

Aaaahhh!!! I´m paralyzed, I can´t move!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781265995

The starters of gen 2 rule!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781274114

Relay race

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781285430

Czar Pokémon’s first Little cup battle

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-783147847

Wing attack!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-783162874

Curse wars

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-783167010

Epic Scyther sweep!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-783348457

One Boomy Boi VS Beelzemon 2003

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-783349555

The Gen 2 starters rule!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-787491564

Beelzemon 2003 is a cheating bastard

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-787494026

Cute but deathly

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-787509005

Belly drum denied

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790764264

FOMG threw the towel

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790768544

Lucky Punch is overpowered

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790770809

Thief! Someone call the police!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790776413

Chansey´s ice sculpture

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790802724

Poliwag sweep

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790820054

Virtual soldier Porygon

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790921803

Onix explodes against One Boomy Boi

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790925129

This town is criminal!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790926086

Pokéfan Rex lends his team to One Boomy Boi

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790929651

Cyndaquil´s Reversal turns the tide of the battle!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790931659

Beelzemon 2003’s explosive team

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791283767

Sunny day

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791290060

Beelzemon 2003: “I found some pokés in the trash bin, let´s see how good they are”

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791298625

Counter!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791348122

Poliwag likes to play rough

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791352721

Elekid is a shameless thief

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791355169

Beelzemon 2003 challenges Mysterious player, the Little Cup champion

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2uu-791689140

Omanyte´s Haze saves the day

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794512448

Socks & Crocs are the trend

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799391881

Desperate measures for desperate situations

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799396838

Little Cup Ubers match 61

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799400463

Socks & Crocs is invincible!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799405211

Lab tournament – Grand finals (Gustavo J. R. VS Beelzemon 2003)

Grand finals of a tournament where four friends and I tested some sample teams

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774579310

Tournament 1 – Eighth finals 1

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790784958

Tournament 1 – Eighth finals 2

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790785014

Tournament 1 – Eighth finals 3

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790785121

Tournament 1 – Quarter finals 1

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790788382

Tournament 1 – Quarter finals 2

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790788290

Tournament 1 – Semi-finals 1

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790792092

Tournament 1 – Semi-finals 2

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790790325

Tournament 1 – Final (Mysterious Player VS FOMG)

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790795910


Fast and fun

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-789890488

Pikachu is broken

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-789895580

Never Switch against Pikachu on Middle Cup

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-789907308

Clefairy VS Jigglypuff, battle of the plushies!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-789901414

Beelzemon 2003’s signature team

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-789912994

Overkill

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790382068

Kadabra VS Kadabra, match of the millennium!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790390262

Don´t give up Bayleef! I believe in you!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-790402810

Sweet dreams Machoke

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-791357516

Hidden Power Dark changed the meta!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-793581687

Middle Cup match 11

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-793584695

Hidden Power Dark Kadabra VS Hidden Power Dark Kadabra

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-793588350

Jigglypuff live!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799375598

Who uses Graveler as a lead?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799381774

Middle Cup match 15

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799386719

Dang, Poliwhirl needs to win the speed tie and crit with Earthquake or else I´ll lose!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-801495052

Tournament 1 – Quarter finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794969423

Tournament 1 – Quarter finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794969062

Tournament 1 – Quarter finals 3

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794969368

Tournament 1 – Semi-final

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794973976

Tournament 1 – Final (Beelzemon 2003 VS Maelstrom 501)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794979248




Sunny day

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748828898

The Weather forecast foresaw a storm

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-747254250

Pink Tidal rules!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748840500

Steel wings!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748844998

Fast and furious!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748487061

Espeon saves the day

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748493468

Ultra violence!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-748496192

Balanced teams collide!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-747265115

Earthworm teaches a lesson of superiority to an inferior being

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-747249997

Mind games

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-747245727

Red´s team

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-746108352

Ironbrony75 VS Beelzemon 2003

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-745969396

Cat fight

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-744450652

The 4 starters of Gen 1 show that they can still kick butt

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-735934402

Iron brony 75 strikes back!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-729615096

Dang, that explosion missed!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-721062989

Counter!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-721068902

Iron brony and Beelzemon are at it again

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-721071400

104 turns!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-718621737

Game 1 of a set between Oxford49 and me

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749570285

Oxford49 VS Beelzemon 2003 game 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749571617

Oxford49 VS Beelzemon 2003 game 3

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749573143

Oxford49 VS Beelzemon 2003 game 4

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749575919

Oxford49 VS Beelzemon 2003 final game, winner takes all

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749577806

Red lent me his team again

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749914370

Road Rageeeee!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749916571

Know what? TO THE HELL WITH THIS GAME!

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-749921943

I demand a rematch!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-753473200

Revival Maya´s revenge

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-753474662

Ragequit!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-753476123

Sweet dreams Forretress

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-753477014

An imposter copies Revival Maya´s team and uses it against her! Will Maya be able to prove that the original is always better than the copy?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-753479041

Here comes a new challenger!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-754967600

Remebermiss squashes some bugs!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-754970855

My explosion missed! I´m salty!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-754972083

Fast and furious!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-755273567

Remembermiss deals with a wimp

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-756863014

A heated match!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-756865887

A new player gives the champion a run for his money!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-756873763

The best pokémon of Gen 1 are dethroned

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-756880041

A nostalgic team

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-756890748

Suicune, the reincarnation of the North Wind

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-757742817

Remembermiss is too good!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758415613

131 turns!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758418396

Skarmory tanks explosions like a champ!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758425806

Middle Cup pokémon VS Eeveelutions!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758875241

Eeveelutions time to shine!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758877554

The 5 starters of Gen 1 VS the 3 starters of Gen 2!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758867578

Rematch between the Gen 1 starters and the Gen 2 starters!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-758873526

The 3 starters of Johto demolishing OU pokémon!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-757833374

Blissey turns the tide of the battle!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-761713481

Raikou is scary

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-761715264

Sorry, no Spikes for you today

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-761716193

Alpha male Psyduck shows who is the supreme duck

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-762180389

Brute force

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-762183658

Who brings Pikachu to an OU battle?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-764350854

Leftovers are for weaklings

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-764922526

Tied to the end!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-764924647

Lots of Hidden Powers!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-764927652

Cubone! He´s so cute, I want to hug him

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-765582838

Alpha male Psyduck is rusty

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-765976632

The dragon slayer

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-766276601

Curse contest

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-766281242

Pinktidal corners Beelzemon

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-767588221

Face yourself

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-767605567

Reversal!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-767609779

Fossil power!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-767612349

Super nerds battle

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-769583037

Sometimes the copy is better than the original

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-769587614

Beelzemon VS Beelzemon Blast Mode

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-769592477

Who needs Swords Dance when you have Thick Club?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-771401912

Miltank is addicted to milkshakes

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-771925502

Stayin´ alive

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773128216

Disrespect

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773264194

Cage match

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773270995

Never give up!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773630476

Curselax sweep

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773721598

Thanks for cutting your energy in half for me

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773765895

Remembermiss returns!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-773785235

Betting at Las Vegas

Beelzemon 2003´s team is full of items that rely on luck: Berserk Gene, Bright Powder, Focus Band, King´s Rock, Quick Claw and Scope Lens

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774132877

The new champion VS the former champion

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774176974

¡AUTODESTRUCCIÓN!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774186245

Fuzy´s team is formidable!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779382126

Belly drum, NOW!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779848460

Beelzemon 2003 finally beats Remembermiss

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-779871816

Curselax sweep 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781214400

This almost feels like regular Gen 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-781217405

A Red imposter

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-782309394

323 turns!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-782572938

The Gen 1 OU stars shine again

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-784636237

Jhon Petrucci cheats by accident and gets disqualified

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-785932675

Leech seed Exeggutor is annoying!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-785935170

Batton pass chain

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-785942309

The Batton pass chain failed

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-785946468

Gengar saves the day

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-786143283

Surfing Rhydon

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-786147210

Miltank is cheap

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-786150508

I finally got you Miltank!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-786154763

Starmie shines

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-786172618

Scizor can be scary

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-787557019

Mega Bulbasaur Y is good

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-787561536

You´ll burn in Hell!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-792465933

Socks & Crocs returns!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794039809

Overused match 102

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794044948

No one can beat the 5 starters of Gen 1!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794047821

Mirror Coat fails against a Thunder summoned by Sleep Talk!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794051921

Perish trap

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-794985801

Overused match 106

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-798924004

Epic Raikou comeback!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-798927862

Overused match 108

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799938098

Overused match 109

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799942083

Socks & Crocs winning streak ends

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799946837

Overused match 111

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-799951322

Trash mons

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-800092095

Little Cup match with level 100 pokémon, will it be the same?

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-800097521

Sabrina returns to Pokémon Showdown!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-800358777

Tournament 1 - Semi-finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-746560554

Tournament 1 - Grand Finals (Beelzemon 2003 VS Cedric RPG)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-746566050

Tournament 2 – Quarter Finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-751401185

Tournament 2 – Quarter Finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-751400439

Tournament 2 – Quarter Finals 3

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-751400567

Tournament 2 – Semi-finals 1

Note: For unknown reasons the replay of the battle between Beelzemon 2003 and ErikEagle wasn´t saved, by the way, ErikEagle won the battle.

Tournament 2 – Grand Finals (ErikEagle VS FOMG)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-751409390

Tournament 3 – Semi-finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774115728

Tournament 3 – Semi-finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774115971

Tournament 3 – Grand finals (Alfredo Rivero VS Chris Loud)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-774119852

Tournament 4 – Eighth finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780744561

Tournament 4 – Eighth finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780744792

Tournament 4 – Quarter finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780750161

Tournament 4 – Quarter finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780744993

Tournament 4 – Semi-finals 1

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780752684

Tournament 4 – Semi-finals 2

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780752951

Tournament 4 – Final (Alfredo Rivero VS Duty Word)

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-780755712




If you have any replays, please, feel free to share them below : )

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Recommended Items for Gen 2 with Item clause – Detailed list

This is a list I created to help those players who want to play Gen 2 with item clause, but don´t know which items to use. OK, without further ado, let´s go!

Note: Click on the name of the Items to view their review.

Excellent items for OU and Ubers

Here are the items that I consider every team should have.

Leftovers (still exist in Gen 7): The strongest item of the game and perhaps the main reason of why Gen 2 is a Stallfest. Item clause prevents more than one pokémon to begin the battle with this object, so I would consider unfair to ban it.

Leftovers recover 6.25 % Hit Points (rounded down) at the end of each turn.

Give Leftovers to a bulky pokémon that can take a lot of punishment like Blissey, Skarmory, Snorlax or Steelix.


Miracle berry (equivalent of Lum Berry from Gen 7): The second strongest item of the meta (at least in my opinion). This item cures burn, confusion, freeze, normal poison, bad poison and paralysis.

Clerics make good use of Miracle berry because it guarantees them to switch in and use Heal Bell at least once without worrying about status conditions like Sleep or Freeze (which end their utility…and their lives!).

The item is also good for fast pokémon that don´t like any kind of bad status like Alakazam, Gengar or Starmie

Lead pokémon are also good candidates for Miracle berry since they tend to face status users at the beginning of the battle.

Finally, Miracle berry works wonders on Flail and Reversal users because it guarantees them to use those moves at least once without worrying to get frozen or paralyzed. Dodrio, Gyarados and Scyther are good using Endure + Flail/Reversal because they don´t have to worry about Spikes damage.


Prz cure berry (Equivalent of Cheri berry from Gen 7): This item cures paralysis, it is good if you have two fast pokémon on your team and you already gave Miracle berry to one of them. Electrode and Jolteon like this berry a lot.


Good items for OU and Ubers

These items are good, but not as much as the ones mentioned above. I listed the first 7 in alphabetical order.

Bright powder (still exists in Gen 7): Not one of my favorites; however, good players consider it a good item. Bright powder reduces the accuracy of all moves by 7.8125 %, so, for example, Ice beam´s accuracy goes from 100 % to 92.1875 %. The only moves that aren´t affected by Bright powder are Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Faint Attack, Swift, Vital Throw, Thunder (while raining) and any move used after Lock On or Mind Reader. Give this item to bulky stat users like Umbreon or Rest talk user like Suicune or Zapdos.


Mint berry (equivalent of Chesto berry from Gen 7): It cures Sleep. Good for Rest users like Raikou, Suicune or Zapdos.


Mystery berry (exclusive of Gen 2 but has an effect similar to that of Leppa berry of Gen 7): It restores 5 Power Points when a move runs out of Power Points; while this sounds good for pokémon that have moves like Cross chop, it is very rare that a pokémon survives long enough to spend said moves´ PPs, still, you can make good use of this item with pokémon that have recovering moves like Giga Drain, Moonlight, Morning Sun and Synthesis, also, if you´re playing Ubers it is handy for Ho-Oh´s Sacred fire and Lugia´s Aeroblast.


Pink bow and Polkadot bow (equivalents of Silk scarf from Gen 7): These items boost the power of Normal type moves by 10 % and since both have different names, you can use them together in the same team. Boosting the power of a move a little doesn´t sound like a big deal until you learn that you can use Polkadot Bow and Pink Bow to raise the damage of the explosive moves Self-destruct and Explosion from 400 and 500 to 440 and 550 respectively! Bomber pokémon like Cloyster and Sudowoodo almost always use their explosive moves, so why not make their last move more deadly?


Scope lens (still exists in Gen 7): This item makes normal moves to have a 12.5 % chance to crit, while moves like Cross chop will crit 33.33 % of the time. Machamp is a good user of the item, also, if it uses Focus energy the odds rise: normal moves crit 25 % and Cross chop crits 50 %! This strategy is risky since everything dies fast on the Item Clause meta and you need one turn to set up, still, if you like to gamble, go for it.

Scope lens can also be good on Lugia, which, unlike Machamp, can Recover energy with ease.


Thick club (still exists in Gen 7): This is for Marowak or Cubone (if you´re a fan of the lonely pokémon). These two pokémon are more deadly on Item clause since most of their opponents no longer have the advantage of recovering their energy at the end of each turn. For those who don´t know, Thick club doubles the physical Attack of Cubone and Marowak from 198 and 258 to 396 and 516 respectively.


Power boosting items (most of them still exist in Gen 7): If you no longer have more good items, give your remaining pokémon items that increase the damage of their attacks by 10 % like Charcoal or Magnet. Something is better than nothing. Below is the list of all the power boosting items arranged by type:

Bug: Silver powder.
Dark: Black glasses.
Dragon: Dragon scale (in Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal) or Dragon fang (in Pokémon Stadium 2).
Electric: Magnet.
Fighting: Black belt.
Fire: Charcoal.
Flying: Sharp beak.
Ghost: Spell tag.
Grass: Miracle seed.
Ground: Soft sand.
Ice: Nevermelt ice
Normal: Pink bow and Polkadot bow.
Poison: Poison barb.
Psychic: Twisted spoon.
Rock: Hard stone.
Steel: Metal coat.
Water: Mystic water.

I take this opportunity to mention that if you play on cartridge (Gold, Silver, Crystal) and want to increase the damage of your Dragon Type moves by 10 %, you have to use Dragon scale instead of Dragon fang. Due to a glitch, Dragon fang is useless and Dragon scale increases the damage of Dragon type moves instead; however, if you play on Pokémon Stadium 2, the opposite happens: Dragon scale is useless while Dragon fang finally increases the power of Dragon type moves (oddly, the game still lets you choose Dragon scale).


No item: Thieves like Exeggutor, Gengar, Jynx and Nidoking like to begin the battle without items to guarantee the success of their move Thief. Item clause forbids your pokémon to begin the battle with repeated items but not from finishing it with repeated items, moreover, the clause also doesn´t ban to begin the battle with more than one pokémon without items. Play dirty and steal your opponents Thick Club and Leftovers.


Other items for OU and Ubers

Two of these items rely a lot on luck to the point that you may not enjoy their benefits in some battles, while the other two can only be used by pokémon that die very fast.

Berserk gene (exclusive of Gen 2): A high risk, high reward item. It confuses the user permanently, but doubles it´s physical Attack permanently. If you like to gamble, use this item on pokémon with high Attack like Tyranitar. Be wary, though, because if you switch out, your pokémon will lose its Attack boost for the rest of the battle (it won´t be confused anymore, though).


Quick claw (still exists in Gen 7): Another favorite of slow and bulky pokémon like Golem, Rhydon or Steelix. It makes any pokémon to attack first 23.4375 % of the time. Your opponent won´t like your Curselax to attack first randomly, will he?


Light ball (still exists in Gen 7): This is for the Pikachu fans, it doubles the mouse´s Special Attack from the crappy 198 to the mighty 396, the second highest of the game! Spam Thunderbolt, Surf and Hidden Power like if there were no tomorrow.


Metal Powder (still exists in gen 7): According to Bulbapedia, this item increases Ditto´s Defense and Special Defense by 50 %, EVEN WHEN IT IS TRANSFORMED!


Bad items for OU and Ubers

These are considered bad; however, games tend to change, so maybe someone will discover a good way to use them in the future.

Bitter berry (equivalent of Persim berry from Gen 7): Cures Confusion. It is recommended if your pokémon has moves like Outrage or Trash.


Burnt berry (equivalent of Aspear berry from Gen 7): Cures freezing. It helps Fire and Water pokémon to switch in against Ice pokémon without worrying a freeze.


Focus band (still exists in Gen 7): When your pokémon is hit by an attack that would have caused it to faint, this item activates and allows it to survive with 1 HP; however, the success rate is very low (11.71875 %). If Focus band succeeds in preventing your pokémon from dying from the first hit of a multi strike move like Twineedle, it will receive no damage from the following hits in that turn. Focus band also works against Future sight, but fails against damage caused by the Confusion status.


Ice berry (equivalent of Rawst berry from Gen 7): Cures burns. It helps Dragon, Rock and Water pokémon to switch in against Fire pokémon without worrying to get burned.


King´s rock (still exists in Gen 7): Has an 11.71875 % probability of flinching the target, too bad it doesn´t work with moves that cause flinch like Rock slide.


Psn cure berry (equivalent of Pecha berry from Gen 7): Cures normal poison and bad poison. Maybe it´s not that bad considering that Toxic is common in Gen 2.


Stick (still exists in Gen 7): If you´re crazy enough to use Farfetch´d at least give this item to the poor duckling. Stick is better than Scope lens because normal moves crit 25 % and moves like Slash crit 50 %. If you Baton pass Focus energy to Farfetch´d the odds are 33.33 % for normal moves and 50 % for Slash (yes, that probability doesn´t change).


Excellent items for Little Cup

If you´re playing Little Cup with Item clause these objects are considered musts, since they recover from 10 to 30 Hit Points and pokémon have between 16 and 44 HPs in that meta. Basically, these items give a second life to Little Cup pokémon.

Berry (equivalent of Oran berry from Gen 7): Restores 10 Hit points after the pokémon´s energy falls below 50 %.


Berry juice (still exists in Gen 7): Restores 20 Hit points after the pokémon´s energy falls below 50 %.


Gold berry (exclusive of Gen 2): Restores 30 Hit points after the pokémon´s energy falls below 50 %. I consider this item should be allowed on Little Cup when players enforce Item clause.


Good items for Little cup

Lucky punch (still exists in Gen 7): Makes Chansey´s attacks to crit 25 % of the time. If you Baton pass the effects of Focus energy to Chansey, the odds rise to 33.33 %. This item only works when held by Chansey.

Lucky Punch can be used in OU and Ubers too, but since Chansey is considered bad there, I consider the item is only viable on Little Cup.


Gen 2 with Item clause is a meta that has been played since 2000; however, since the meta has never been documented before, this info should be taken with care.

Note: I know that the “standard” is to play Gen 2 without Item clause, so please, don´t add posts mentioning that.


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1.Raikou @ scope lens
Thunder, hp ice, rest, sleep talk
Talk kou just aces no lefties, hardly slows him down at all

2. Starmie @ miracle Berry
Rapid spin, psychic, surf, recover
Just has good stamina with recover and no lefties, seems like spike damage could stack up fast in this format so i'd prob want to run a spinner.

3. Snorlax @ Leftovers
Lovely Kiss, curse, double edge, rest
I'd always put leftovers on Lax unless it was a sleep talker tbh, he really hurts without them. Sleep, lefties, curse just centralizes the MVP on the poke carrying leftovers

4. Skarmory @ mint berry
Drill peck, whirlwind, rest, thief
Phazer; minty rests, clears the item to hopefully steal something good. Toxic would prob be better than thief but hey, gotta do something to keep with the item theme.

5. Umbreon @ mystery Berry
Charm, toxic, pursuit, moonlight
Super bulky ghost/psychic hunter, seems well suited for no leftovers with recovery & pp boost for moonlight.

6. Machamp @ black belt
Curse, cross chop, rest, sleep talk
Because power, status repair + recovery. Definitely needing Curse on this one as its the Nidoking check and kings Earthquake can 3 shot when champ doesn't have leftovers
 

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#7
Real men use berserk gene. BG Jolt passing +2 attack to a Machamp with Lum (or bitter berry for that matter) can be *brutal*.

In terms of “luck” items: focus band (likely a good source of redundancy for reversal users, probably also good for sleep talkers who can take one lucky turn and turn it into a full heal) and king’s rock (more niche, but fast pokes with compatible moves could use it to flinch a snorlax to death... maybe) are worth remembering.
 
#8
The Bersek Gene Jolteon with Agility and Baton Pass seems to be a high risk/high reward strategy, just be wary of Raikou, it is a gatecrasher that enjoys to ruin parties : /
 
#9
I like the idea; I thought for some time it would be intersting to implement item clause in gen 2 to speed it up. That replay doesn't seem to work though? Thats not the most exciting team I posted compared to what you guys came up with but thats prob where i'd start til i got a feel. The only thing I'd be tempted to try & fit on some of those teams is giga rain on forretress; seems like a cool idea to keep his hp up. We'll have to have a bot on showdown sometime :)
 
#10
I´d be happy if we had a separate ladder for Gen 2 with item clause, that way players would be free to choose their prefered way to play the god old metallic generation. We´ve had tournaments of that format on the Ruins of Alph chat sometimes and players have enjoyed them a lot. By the way, item clause does make Gen 2 games WAY FASTER. In normal Gen 2 I´ve seen games of 1000 turns while on Item clause they can last up to 100 turns (however, that´s a rare event). Of course, any Gen can be stally, I have a friend that told me he once saw a Gen 7 game that lasted 3000 turns!!! :o
 

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#11
There are some fundamental problems with this format that make it basically unplayable.

As it stands, GSC OU holds a tenuous balance in terms of how its various threats interact with one another. Snorlax is unquestionably at the top of the heap, but many Pokemon exist that can check its various sets - however, all of these Pokemon are highly susceptible to chip damage, which adds up quickly when only 1 team member can hold Leftovers. In the case of a standard stall setup where your curselax checks are Skarm and Ttar, regardless of which of them is holding lefties, you're going to get chipped down by +1 DEdge over time plus the coverage move of choice, and there's nothing you can do to prevent that. Similarly, things like Exeggutor would be borderline Uber if not for the ubiquity of Leftovers, with the item itself enabling Zap and Kou to survive 3 Psychics, for instance. Nidoking in particular stands out to me as something which is largely checked by the presence of Leftovers and is an absolute terror otherwise. This problem is compounded by the lack of longevity on both Spikes users, which you probably don't want carrying your only Leftovers, meaning Spikes are going to be played even more aggressively than they are in OU, and will likely be up on both sides in most battles. As a result, every single switch is punished twice as hard as it should be, rendering common defensive strategies null and enhancing the already overbearing presence of mixed attackers and other fast, powerful Pokemon that don't require stat boosts to sweep. Stall is obviously trashed, but even offensive teams suffer. The standard Steelix, a staple of boom teams, can only gain recovery through Leftovers, usually via phazing. In most cases you'll want lefties on Lax, so Steelix's number of switch-ins becomes highly limited as it eats Spikes damage plus residual chip, forcing it to blow up way sooner than you'll normally see. In almost every case imaginable, the presence of Leftovers is the glue that holds GSC OU together, and by limiting its application, you necessarily dissolve the foundation of what makes GSC so great.

You may read all this and ask "ok, but why is this necessarily a bad thing? Maybe GSC w/item clause is radically different from GSC OU as we know it, but that doesn't make it bad." I'll invite you to play a few games of the format yourself and witness firsthand how atrocious it is. The sample stall teams are garbage, so ignore them. Build your own team (or steal team 2) centered around Explosion, which is the best strategy beyond a doubt, and watch as every single game devolves into a mindless spin of the roulette wheel. Explosions are firing left and right, you're sending in mixed sweeper after mixed sweeper, and a single miss/crit/freeze/etc. will swing the game completely out of control. The entire metagame is like a boom team mirror in OU but with way more random bullshit - the presence of items like BrightPowder, Mint Berry, and Quick Claw make for a miserable experience where you can never be sure if you're outplaying your opponent or simply falling into an RNG-laden trap. I played about a dozen games of this format, and the only good thing I got out of my experience was an even greater appreciation for GSC OU as it stands now.

In conclusion, I fucking hate Item Clause GSC. If you enjoy this tier, you're an agent of Satan.
 
#12
Lavos, I talked with some friends recently and discovered something interesting, you have a second account where you´re called The pirate97. We fought today in a Gen 2 Item clause tournament. You won your first battle and were having a great time with a tier you supposedly hated, then, you fought me on semi finals and were also having a good time until I won because your Snorlax missed 3 Fire Blasts in a row. After your loss, your attitude changed drastically from enjoying an unknown meta to hating it and insulting me, you also called Sam Samantha "idiot". At the beggining I acted relaxed and ignored your comments; however, after a while I began to act childish too and attacked you. Anyway, I´m disappointed to see that a loss made you lose your control to the point of writing an elaborate post to satanize this meta.

About my attitude, I want to apologize for being rude to you even if I did it to counter your hostility, I should have understood that you were angry for having bad luck and that fighting insults with insults would have only worsened things.

By the way, I once lost Grand Finals on a Gen 2 OU tournament due to bad luck if that makes you happy; however, I didn´t insult my opponent after the fight, I accepted my loss, got angry for a bit and moved on with my life.

Regarding the meta, I have played Gen 2 with Item clause MANY times and have even won 2 tournaments of it. I love Item clause 1 million times more than normal Gen 2 and have some friends that also enjoy the format. Also, I think you didn´t read well the title of the thread: it says "Item Clause GSC Resources & Discussion", it doesn´t say "Gen 2 is horrible, let´s make a revolution and force everybody to play with Item clause". My true intention is to offer players more options to play Gen 2 and let them decide if they like Normal, Item clause, Anything goes or whatever they want.

Thanks for reading my post and have a good day.

PD: I included the link of our fight below as evidence of what I said here.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-746560554
 
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Here´s the link to the replay I tried to share with you yesterday:

replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen2ou-746108352

It´s a fun match of Gen 2 with Item clause, hope you enjoy it.
 
#17
I have always been interested in trying this metagame. I think the power of Spikes and the lack of passive recovery will lead to Rest (especially without Sleep Talk) becoming less viable, which should also make strategies like Screens, Toxic Protect and fast offensive Pokemon more viable. I think it's quite possible for strategies other than Explosion to be strong. Hopefully this gets a chance on the monthly ladder soon.

That said, I understand why people would not want to play this over regular GSC OU, because if they are coming to play Gen 2 in the first place they are probably looking for the (at least slightly) more nuanced gameplay offered by the presence of constant passive recovery.

BTW, is there any reason the two item clause threads are separate?
 
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#20
I respect your opinion, but did you read which were the real reasons of why Lavos wrote those arguments against Item clause? It was because I won against him in a Gen 2 Item clause tournament, check the above posts, I even pasted the link of the replay.
 
#21
You guys think the ou tier is being replaced with item clause or something? If you don't like the idea of it don't play it lol *shrugs. How are you running these matches Beelzemon? By arranged custom gen 2
 
#22
You just use Normal Gen 2 OU, if you discover someone repeated an item during the fight, he or she loses in that moment. On tournaments, mods can actually enforce the rule, so if you try to use 6 pokémon with Leftovers the system doesn´t allow you to fight.
 
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#23
I respect your opinion, but did you read which were the real reasons of why Lavos wrote those arguments against Item clause? It was because I won against him in a Gen 2 Item clause tournament, check the above posts, I even pasted the link of the replay.
That's cool. I still think his arguments are good and valid, and item clause is a terrible idea.
 
#25
Recommended Items for Gen 2 with Item clause – Short list

This is a short version of the list I published last week. OK, without further ado, let´s go!

Leftovers (still exist in Gen 7): Recover 6.25 % HPs at the end of each turn. Give this item to bulky pokémon like Snorlax, Steelix, Skarmory or Blissey.

Miracle Berry (equivalent of Lum berry in Gen 7): Cures burn, confusion, freeze, normal poison, bad poison and paralysis. Good for lead pokémon, since they tend to face opponents with status moves like Spore, Toxic or Confuse Ray. The item is also good for fast and versatile pokémon like Starmie, Alakazam and Gengar.

Prz Cure Berry (equivalent of Cheri berry in Gen 7): Cures paralysis. If you already used Miracle Berry, use Prz Cure Berry on a fast pokémon like Electrode or Jolteon.

Mint Berry (equivalent of Chesto berry in Gen 7): Cures sleep. This item is for Rest users like Zapdos, Suicune or Raikou.

Polkadot Bow and Pink Bow (equivalents of Silk scarf in Gen 7): Both items increase the damage of Normal type moves by 10 %. These items are recommended for pokémon with Self-Destruct and Explosion like Cloyster and Sudowoodo. You can use both items in the same team without breaking Item clause.

Thick Club (still exists in Gen 7): For Marowak, it doubles its physical Attack up to 516.

Bright powder (still exists in Gen 7): For defensive stat users like Umbreon, it reduces the accuracy of all moves by 7.8 % (except Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, Swift, Faint Attack and Vital throw).

Quick claw (still exists in Gen 7): Makes any pokémon to move first 23.4 % of the time. Use it on slow resistant pokémon like Curselax, Golem or Steelix.

Scope lens (still exists in Gen 7): Increases the chance of landing a Critical hit by one stage. This item is for pokémon with high Critical hit ratio moves like Cross chop Machamp.

Light Ball (still exists in Gen 7): If you´re a Pikachu fan, give this item to the mouse, it doubles its Special Attack up to 396 (second only to Mewtwo).

No item: Thief users like Nidoking, Gengar or Jynx prefer to begin the battle without items to guarantee the success of said move. Item clause doesn´t ban having more than one pokémon without items at the beginning of the battle, so you have to take that into account if you want to have more than one thief in your team.

Power boosting items (most of them still exist in Gen 7): If you run out of good items, use items that boost the power of certain moves by 10 % (like Charcoal or Magnet), something´s better than nothing. Below is the list of all the power boosting items arranged by type:

Power boosting items

Bug: Silver powder.
Dark: Black glasses.
Dragon: Dragon scale (in Pokémon Gold, Silver and Crystal) or Dragon fang (in Pokémon Stadium 2).
Electric: Magnet.
Fighting: Black belt.
Fire: Charcoal.
Flying: Sharp beak.
Ghost: Spell tag.
Grass: Miracle seed.
Ground: Soft sand.
Ice: Nevermelt ice
Normal: Pink bow and Polkadot bow.
Poison: Poison barb.
Psychic: Twisted spoon.
Rock: Hard stone.
Steel: Metal coat.
Water: Mystic water.


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