Ubers Kyurem-White [qc 2/2] [gp 2/2]

[pannu]

[Overview]

Kyurem-W is one of the strongest special attackers in the Ubers metagame, having a very high Special Attack, a solid Speed tier that lets it outspeed Pokemon like Groudon, Kyogre, and Zekrom, and a good STAB combination and solid coverage options to hit many important targets like Zygarde, Kyogre, Necrozma-DM, and Yveltal. It does, however, have a weakness to many common Pokemon in the metagame, being threatened out by the likes of Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, meanwhile Pokemon like Ho-Oh and Necrozma-DM can switch around its moves with ease.

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Ice Beam / Roost
move 3: Freeze Dry
move 4: Fusion Flare
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
ability: Turboblaze
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Choice Specs Kyurem-W is a fierce special attacker and amazing wallbreaker. Its good STAB moves in Ice Beam and Draco Meteor make it hard to safely switch into. Freeze-Dry gives it super effective coverage for Water-types, and Fusion Flare hits Steel-types that resist its STAB options. Running Life Orb and Roost over Choice Specs and Ice Beam lets Kyurem-W more freely switch up its moves and recover chip damage, but being significantly weaker than Choice Specs and not having an Ice-type move stronger then Freeze-Dry can hurt in certain situations where Ice Beam's higher damage would be useful.

Due to its Stealth Rock weakness and lack of recovery, Kyurem-W can quickly become chipped down and therefore needs to be paired up with consistent Defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-Oh. Pokemon like Choice Scarf Calyrex-S, Kyogre, and Xerneas can clean late-game after Kyurem-W has punched holes in the opposing team. Since Kyurem-W has little defensive utility, you should pair it up with a defensive core it can fall back on; Pokemon like Necrozma-DM, Yveltal, and Ho-Oh make for teammates that can cover for its weaknesses. Yveltal is an especially potent teammate, as U-turn variants can pivot in Kyurem-W with ease against Pokemon like Groudon, Zygarde, and opposing Yveltal.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====
Stone Edge is an option to hit Ho-Oh on the switch, but it has no other use.


Checks and Counters
====

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Pokemon like Ho-Oh, Blissey, and Heatran can take any of Kyurem-W's moves and force it out with the threat of getting statused or heavily damaged.

**Common Defensive Cores**: Common defensive cores such as Ferrothorn + Ho-Oh and Kyogre + Necrozma-DM are able to switch around Choice-Locked Kyurem-W, but Kyurem-W's powerful coverage ultimately make this method of checking it rather risky.

**Revenge Killers*: Pokemon that outspeed and threaten to KO Kyurem-W like Marshadow, Eternatus, and Calyrex-S pose a threat to Kyurem-W and can gain momentum as it switches out.



[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[pannuracotta, 517892]]
- Quality checked by: [Fc, 511624], [Minority, 222996]]
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[Fc]

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Kyurem White is one of the strongest special attackers in the ubers metagame, having a very high base SpA stat and good STAB options + coverage its a powerful special wallbreaker in the tier. It does however have a weakness to many common Pokemon in the tier and is easily switched around. This overview feels fairly bare, with the most important stuff being talked about but nothing in depth. I'd mention how its stab and coverage can threaten common defensive cores of stuff like etern ndm yvel zyg, how its speed tier effects it since 95 is enough for ogre / don but underspeeds a lot of top fast threats, etc. Nothing huge since it's just the overview but a bit more substance

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Ice Beam / Roost
move 3: Freeze Dry
move 4: Fusion Flare
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
ability: Turboblaze
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Kyurem-W boasts a powerful special attack stat and when used in tandem with Choice Specs, Kyurem-W becomes a fierce special attacker and amazing wallbreaker. Its accesss to good STAB moves in Ice Beam and Draco Meteor make it hard to safely switch into its attacks. Freeze Dry gives it super effective coverage for water types, and Fusion Flare lets you hit Steel-types that resist your STAB options. Life Orb + Roost vs Choice Specs + Ice Beam should be discussed here talking about the power difference vs longevity and move freedom, also if the damage tradeoff from specs to orb matters in terms of calcs on anything super relevant

Due to its weakness to Stealth Rocks and lack of recovery, Kyurem-W can quickly become chipped down during longer games and as such needs to be paired up with some form of hazard control to keep hazards away and let it switch in safely, defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-oh do this consistently. Kyurem-W also appriciates having faster cleaners to take advantage of the holes it puts in the opposing team, Pokemon like Choice Scarf Calyrex-s, Zacian, Kyogre, and Xerneas can all clean late game after Kyurem has chipped the opposing team down. Since it has no Recovery little defensive utility you should pair it up with a defensive core it can fall back on when its forced to switch out by an opposing threat, Pokemon like Necrozma-DM, Yveltal and Ho-oh make for teammates that can cover for Kyurems weaknesses. Yvel pivoting with U-turn should be mentioned, letting it get a lot more breaking opportunities

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====
To get around not having reliable recovery and Choice Specs locking you into one move, you can run a set with Life Orb as the item and Roost over ice beam, this set doesnt deal as much damage as the Choice Specs variant however This is a main set option so I wouldn't mention it here and would talk about it in set comments, instead mention Stone Edge to snipe Ho-oh but talk about the big drawback of losing either Ice Beam or Roost


Checks and Counters
====

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Pokemon like Ho-oh, Blissey, and Heatran that can take a hit from any of kyurems moves can force it out with the threat of getting statused or hit for a solid chunk of damage,

**Offensive Pressure*: Pokemon that outspeed and threaten to KO Kyurem like Marshadow, Zacian, Eternatus, and Calyrex-S all pose a threat to Kyurem as they threaten Kyurem out into a teammate that can sponge the incoming attack and can gain momentum on the switch.



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[pannu]

took a while to implement, my bad. ty for the check and implemented!

 

[Minority]

In the overview you say that Kyurem-W is easily switched around, but you don't have a section in Checks and Counters for defensive cores that allow Kyurem-W's moveset to be switched around, or at the very least, common resistances / immunities for its STAB moves that force Kyurem-W to predict or limit the amount it can punish an opposing team. Such a section should be listed after "Specially Bulky Pokemon".

Instead of "Offensive Pressure" you can just call it revenge killers, and list all relevant Pokemon that outspeed Kyurem-W and realistically OHKO it from full / chip.

QC: 2/2

 

[plunder]

AM check, (if you do implement the changes pls don't change the title to GP 1/1)
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Kyurem-White

[Overview] (all the analysis start with this so I'm guessing you forgot)

Kyurem White Kyurem-W is one of the strongest special attackers in the ubers Ubers metagame, having a very high base SpA stat Special Attack, a solid speedtier Speed tier that lets it outspeed Pokemon like Groudon, Kyogre, and Zekrom, a good STAB Typing typing,(AC) and solid coverage options to hit many important targets in the tier like Zygarde, Kyogre, Necrozma-DM, and Yveltal, makes its a powerful special wallbreaker in the metagame. It does however have a However, it is weakness to many common Pokemon in the tier and is easily switched around.

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Ice Beam / Roost
move 3: Freeze Dry
move 4: Fusion Flare
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
ability: Turboblaze
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Kyurem-W boasts a powerful special attack Special Attack stat and when used in tandem with Choice Specs, Kyurem-W becomes a fierce special attacker and amazing wallbreaker. Its accesss access to good STAB moves in Ice Beam and Draco Meteor make it hard to safely switch into its attacks. Freeze Dry gives it super effective coverage for water types, Water-types and Fusion Flare lets you hit Steel-types that resist your STAB options. Running Life Orb and Roost over Choice Specs and Ice Beam makes it so that Kyurem-W can more freely switch up its moves and recover off chip damage, but being significantly weaker then than Choice Specs and not having an ice move Ice-type moves stronger then than Freeze-Dry can hurt in certain situations.

Due to its weakness to Stealth Rocks and lack of recovery, Kyurem-W can quickly become chipped down during longer games and as such needs to be paired up with some form of hazard control to keep hazards away and let it switch in safely, defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-oh do this consistently. Kyurem-W also appriciates appreciates having faster cleaners to take advantage of the holes it puts in the opposing team, Pokemon like Choice Scarf Calyrex-s Calyrex-S, Zacian, Kyogre, and Xerneas can all clean late game after Kyurem-W has chipped the opposing team down. Since it has little defensive utility you should pair it up with a defensive core it can fall back on when it's(added apostrophe) forced to switch out by an opposing threat, Pokemon like Necrozma-DM, Yveltal,(AC) and Ho-oh make for teammates that can cover for Kyurems Kyurem-W weaknesses. Yveltal is an especially potent teammate as U-turn variants can pivot in Kyurem-W with ease.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====
Stone Edge is an option to hit Ho-oh on the switch-in, but losing a valuable moveslot for something that only hits a single Pokemon is very niche.


Checks and Counters
====

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Pokemon like Ho-oh, Blissey, and Heatran that can take a hit from any of kyurems Kyurem-W moves can force it out with the threat of getting statused or hit for a solid chunk of damaged and worn down,(RC) .(AP)

**Common defensive cores**: Because of Kyurem-W having to run Choice Specs to be a potent threat, common defensive cores such as Ferrothorn and Ho-oh or Kyogre and Necrozma-DM are able to switch around Kyurem-W depending on what move it has locked into, however predicting a switch and hitting a supereffective super effective move ultimately make this method of checking Kyurem-W Rather rather risky.(AP)

**Revenge Killers*: Pokemon that outspeed and threaten to KO Kyurem-W like Marshadow, Zacian, Eternatus, and Calyrex-S all pose a threat to Kyurem-W as they threaten Kyurem-W out into a teammate that can sponge the incoming attack and can gain momentum on the switch.



[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[pannuracotta, 517892]]
- Quality checked by: [fc, 511624], [Minority, 222996]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]

 

[CryoGyro]

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[Overview]

Kyurem-W White is one of the strongest special attackers in the Ubers metagame, having a very high base SpA stat Special Attack, a solid Speed tier that lets it outspeed Pokemon like Groudon, Kyogre, and Zekrom, and a good STAB Typing STAB combination and solid coverage options to hit many important targets in the tier like Zygarde, Kyogre, Necrozma-DM, and Yveltal, its a powerful special wallbreaker in the metagame. It does, (comma) however, (comma) have a weakness to many common Pokemon in the tier and is easily switched around. (which pokemon threaten it out and switch around it well?)

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Ice Beam / Roost
move 3: Freeze-Dry
move 4: Fusion Flare
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
ability: Turboblaze
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Kyurem-W boasts a powerful special attack stat and when used in tandem with Choice Specs, Choice Specs Kyurem-W becomes is a fierce special attacker and amazing wallbreaker. Its accesss to good STAB moves in Ice Beam and Draco Meteor make it hard to safely switch into its attacks. Freeze-Dry gives it super effective coverage for Water-types, and Fusion Flare lets you hit hits Steel-types that resist your its STAB options. Running Life Orb and Roost over Choice Specs and Ice Beam makes it so that lets Kyurem-W can more freely switch up its moves and recover off chip damage, but being significantly weaker then Choice Specs and not having an ice Ice-type move stronger then Freeze-Dry can hurt in certain situations. (like what)

Due to its weakness to Stealth Rocks Stealth Rock weakness and lack of recovery, Kyurem-W can quickly become chipped down during longer games and as such therefore needs to be paired up with some form of hazard control to keep hazards away and let it switch in safely, defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-oh do this consistently consistent Defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-Oh. Kyurem-W also appriciates having faster cleaners to take advantage of the holes it puts in the opposing team, Pokemon like Choice Scarf Calyrex-S, Zacian, Kyogre, and Xerneas can all clean late-game after Kyurem-W has chipped the opposing team down punched holes in the opposing team. Since it Kyurem-W has little defensive utility, (comma) you should pair it up with a defensive core it can fall back on; (semi) when its forced to switch out by an opposing threat, Pokemon like Necrozma-DM, Yveltal and Ho-Oh make for teammates that can cover for Kyurems its weaknesses. Yveltal is an especially potent teammate, (comma) as U-turn variants can pivot in Kyurem-W with ease. (against what)

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====
Stone Edge is an option to hit Ho-Oh on the switch-in, but losing a valuable moveslot for something that only hits a single Pokemon is very niche has no other use.


Checks and Counters
====

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Pokemon like Ho-Oh, Blissey, and Heatran that can take a hit from any of kyurems Kyurem-W's moves can and force it out with the threat of getting statused or hit for a solid chunk of damage, heavily damaged.

**Common Defensive Cores**: Because of Kyurem having to run Choice Specs to be a potent threat, Common defensive cores such as Ferrothorn and + Ho-Oh or and Kyogre and + Necrozma-DM are able to switch around Choice-locked Kyurem-W depending on what move it has locked into, however predicting a switch and hitting a supereffective move but Kyurem-W's powerful coverage ultimately make this method of checking Kyurem it rather risky. (per)

**Revenge Killers*: Pokemon that outspeed and threaten to KO Kyurem like Marshadow, Zacian, Eternatus, and Calyrex-S all pose a threat to Kyurem-W as they threaten Kyurem out into a teammate that can sponge the incoming attack and can gain momentum on the switch as it switches out.



[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[pannuracotta, 517892]]
- Quality checked by: [fc, 511624], [Minority, 222996]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1], [username2, userid2]

 

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[Overview]

Kyurem-W is one of the strongest special attackers in the Ubers metagame, having a very high Special Attack, a solid Speed tier that lets it outspeed Pokemon like Groudon, Kyogre, and Zekrom, and a good STAB combination and solid coverage options to hit many important targets like Zygarde, Kyogre, Necrozma-DM, and Yveltal. It does, however, have a weakness to many common Pokemon in the tier metagame, (AC) being threatened out by the likes of Necrozma-DM, Zacian, and Eternatus, meanwhile Pokemon like Ho-Oh and Necrozma-DM can switch around its moves with ease.

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor
move 2: Ice Beam / Roost
move 3: Freeze Dry
move 4: Fusion Flare
item: Choice Specs / Life Orb
ability: Turboblaze
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Choice Specs Kyurem-W is a fierce special attacker and amazing wallbreaker. Its good STAB moves in Ice Beam and Draco Meteor make it hard to safely switch into. Freeze-Dry gives it super effective coverage for Water-types, and Fusion Flare hits Steel-types that resist its STAB options. Running Life Orb and Roost over Choice Specs and Ice Beam lets Kyurem-W more freely switch up its moves and recover chip damage, but being significantly weaker then than Choice Specs and not having an Ice-type move stronger then Freeze-Dry can hurt in certain situations where Ice Beam's (AA) higher damage would be useful.

Due to its Stealth Rock weakness and lack of recovery, Kyurem-W can quickly become chipped down and therefore needs to be paired up with consistent Defoggers like Yveltal and Ho-Oh. Pokemon like Choice Scarf Calyrex-S, Zacian, Kyogre, and Xerneas can clean late-game after Kyurem-W has punched holes in the opposing team. Since Kyurem-W has little defensive utility, you should pair it up with a defensive core it can fall back on; Pokemon like Necrozma-DM, Yveltal, (AC) and Ho-Oh make for teammates that can cover for its weaknesses. Yveltal is an especially potent teammate, as U-turn variants can pivot in Kyurem-W with ease against Pokemon like Groudon, Zygarde, and opposing Yveltal.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====
Stone Edge is an option to hit Ho-Oh on the switch-in, but it has no other use. (AP)


Checks and Counters
====

**Specially Bulky Pokemon**: Pokemon like Ho-Oh, Blissey, and Heatran can take any of Kyurem-W's moves and force it out with the threat of getting statused or heavily damaged.

**Common Defensive Cores**: Common defensive cores such as Ferrothorn + Ho-Oh and Kyogre + Necrozma-DM are able to switch around Choice Locked Choice-locked Kyurem-W, (AC) but Kyurem-W's powerful coverage ultimately make this method of checking it rather risky.

**Revenge Killers*: Pokemon that outspeed and threaten to KO Kyurem-W like Marshadow, Zacian, Eternatus, and Calyrex-S pose a threat to Kyurem-W and can gain momentum as it switches out.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[pannuracotta, 517892]]
- Quality checked by: [fc, 511624], [Minority, 222996]]
- Grammar checked by: [[CryoGyro, 3315191], [username2, userid2]

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[pannu]

took a while to implement this, my bad. anyways; this is ready for upload