my fucking god, it's like you pasted everything on my mind onto a single post about doubleliftDoublelift is the most overrated player in the short history of this game. CLG will continue to be a B+ team as long as he is on the roster. I don't care how good he can be mechanically every now and then, he lacks everything else it takes to be a good player. Always has and always will.
Aphromoo is the only real quality player on CLG and I feel bad for the guy because I think he deserves to be on a world stage this season. The rest of the roster is subpar.
I hope they stick around though because watching CLG's hopes and dreams get crushed every season is the best part of being a TSM fan.
im not saying that dlift and link arent shit (they both are!), but nien was pretty bad too...i can definitely recall at least two instances him losing a 1v1 pre 6 as renekton vs balls/dyrus shyvana, sans jungle pressure, which is a fucking disgrace tbh. renekton stomps shyv till level 9 and then she slowly outscales, but if you're losing pre 6 you are a garbage top laner compared to your opposition. i agree he wasn't the fucking anchor dragging everyone down like some people seemed to think but he wasn't helping them either.seriously, why did they replace nien again? he did nothing wrong the team makes him play full tank characters even after they fall off for a bit and then they wont let him play shyvana. makes sense. he plays slightly below average while doublelift and link play like shit so they scrap him.
On what planet has this ever been true? Doublelift was on a slump (edit to: was on a shitty ass fucking team) in season 3 and still looked great and this season he was CLEARLY the best ADC in the region by FAR. If you're determining factor for always being on a B+ team is the fact that he's not a shotcaller then yeah you're totally fucking right, but that's also the dumbest metric in the world. I mean sure, he's not smart enough about the game to be the one to LEAD a team, but on a team with smart decision making and he'd be completely fucking devastating. CLG's problem is a lackluster mid laner and a jungler who doesn't know how to do anything on his own, and a top laner all too ready to not have any voice in the team.Doublelift is the most overrated player in the short history of this game. CLG will continue to be a B+ team as long as he is on the roster. I don't care how good he can be mechanically every now and then, he lacks everything else it takes to be a good player. Always has and always will.
Ok that explains it then.I hope they stick around though because watching CLG's hopes and dreams get crushed every season is the best part of being a TSM fan.
what the fuckOn what planet has this ever been true? Doublelift was on a slump in season 3 and still looked great and this season he was CLEARLY the best ADC in the region by FAR.
TSM TSM TSMOk that explains it then.
They need discipline, which is impossible with their current roster. Egos still run CLG.doublelift still one of the strongest ADCs in NA on an individual level(and the only american vayne on his level while we know what players such as piglet can do with the champ), link's mechanics are also ridiculous, so what's happening with their team? do they need a more adhesive shotcaller + strategist :/
Disagree. If its anyone who doesn't know how to do anything on their own then its Double. Link and Dexter should have beaten Voy and IWD but their terrible picks (Ryze mid... don't care if korea picks it, it sucks) and picking a squishy jungler against nunu just doesn't work in this AD hyper carry meta (could also use TSM vs Dig as an example of this). Replace their mid and jungler again and season 5 will end up the same as season 3 and 4. It's just CLG culture.CLG's problem is a lackluster mid laner and a jungler who doesn't know how to do anything on his own, and a top laner all too ready to not have any voice in the team..
Well I had to argue with myself since you nor anyone else is offering any real criticism of his play. You're just declaring he's completely overrated and citing nothing, so the proper response would be backing your claims up and elaborating on your extremely vague thoughts?I never said anything about Doublelift needing to be a shotcaller or leading the team TheValkyries so I can't really respond to that argument you just had with yourself. If you honestly think that Doublelift is some kind of god who is only being held back by his team's decision making then that's your opinion and good luck with it.
This is completely untrue. The main shotcallers on CLG are Link and Dexter (with Dexter focusing on the early game and transitioning to Link for lategame), and Aphro is the one shotcalling botlane. Doublelift just shoots things. He just happens to be the most vocal member and is the team captain. However, Doublelift himself has stated that his team captain title is nothing more than a title.doublelift's problem is that he's also the primary shotcaller on the team
I mean, the way I see it mid is the highest level player in laning phase with access to both lanes. That by itself should warrant your mid laner being the best player on your team. I'd say whoever sees more of the map between the jungler and the mid laner should be the most vocal player since they would have most of the information required to make a call without having to be fed too much information. That's just my two bronze cents.call me shallow but mid is the most important position in the game and if your mid laner isn't the most vocal and skilled player on the team you're gonna have a bad day unless your name is EDG U