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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??

Does anyone in this thread own and actually play Karma or Trundle?

Being an LoL hipster has always sparked my interest but I'm always too terrified I will absolutely hate these champs if I buy them and I'll feel like I wasted IP.

Also, something interesting: I have played around 900 games of League...and I have never seen a Karma in-game. I know nothing about her kit or how she even looks in-game.

Fun stats: over the past month, Ezreal was used in nearly a million games (947,984 to be exact), while Karma was used in less than 10,000 (9,618 to be exact). That's disturbing.
 
I've seen a Karma once and a Trundle twice.

I know nothing about Karma, and all i know about Trundle is that he's Anti-AD, and a sick troll.

If that says anything.
 
karma is stronger as a mage than a support, she excels at winning her lane mid. Her biggest problem is the lack of utility late game and her short range
 
Everytime they nerf the hell out of sustain support, I have to wonder if Karma actually becomes viable. The only trouble is she really pushes the lane no matter what she does.
 
hi xephyr

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also featuring sejuani and jungle karthus
 
Walrein is officially god.

You even had the panache to throw in Nautilus and Zilean. Well played, sir.

I just looked at Karma's kit.

Wut. She doesn't even have an ult that you level up.

I don't get it.
 
doublelift said recently that he considers twitch and trundle to be extremely overpowered

another fun fact: ezreal was picked in something like 75% of the games at IPL5 and wasn't banned once
 
Yeah I was going to say if nobody else did that Trundle is actually quite strong, but it seems like people understand that. People in normals/solo queue/fun games are just much less likely to pick a character that looks hideous/stupid/etc. unless they are massively overpowered. There is a reason they don't produce many monster champions anymore and the ones that they do are all "badass" looking creatures (kha'zix): trundle and urgot are by far the least popular champions. Sejuani also has a bad rep because her in game model (particularly the way she walks) is completely retarded but she's actually not as awful kit-wise as some people may say.
 
Personally I think Urgot looks plenty badass but not a fan of his kit and at most people's ELO people don't respond properly when their Urgot ults.
 
No Wriggles smh, his Q makes Wriggles great on him. Also you don't have enough CDR in that build I'd rather go Aegis into Spirit Visage if you really wanted more MR and you get 30% CDR from that and Glacial Shroud.
 
I really don't understand how Trundle could be any good right now when the metasheep are all about ignoring resists and stacking HP. Who is he going to drain mitigation from if nobody is buying it? :(
 
Karmas kit is pretty legit, though one of her problems is with general players, they 1: waste mantras strait away in team fights and after they are gone she is useless. 2: they don't know how to use spirit bond, it does a ton of damage if used correctly, and most people dont realize the person they target doesn't take the dmg, but the enemies who pass through the bond and 3: they just try to get in close to do dmg with q and die
 
Mr.E said:
I really don't understand how Trundle could be any good right now when the metasheep are all about ignoring resists and stacking HP. Who is he going to drain mitigation from if nobody is buying it? :(
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I think it's more about his much improved clear speed and his pre-existent OP sustain. He's kind of the early jungle bully mundo used to be.



edit - Also I dunno I've actually always found Zilean and Karma mid to be the two most directly comparable champs I can think of and Zilean just has more without the unwieldiness. Yeah mantra shield has nice reach off friendly minions and is a decent farming tool, but creeps cannot look at Zil once he has level 5 and enough mana, and time bombs reach even farther than mantra shield. His QWQ burst is much more damaging than the shield and much, much safer and less conditional than a full karma combo. And his speed/slow and damage mitigation just trounces hers in most cases lol. Did I mention he has 600 auto range and doesn't need copious amounts of mana to last hit away from harm?
 
I have a sickening feeling Wukong is going to FotM soon and I'll be forced to watch noob Wukongs who rush Triforce or BT. The monkey loses a lot of top lane matchups sure, but also scales better than all of them except maybe Nasus, Jax, and Olaf. Wukong mid is also frightening, you basically have yourself a mini-Talon mid who trades a silence on his gap closer for a godly teamfight ult. Sustain is no problem once you've got a Vamp Scepter and after he gets Cleaver, he just dominates teamfights mid game thanks to his passive. Then from there just pick whatever health items you need like Sunfire, Warmogs, Randuins, Mallet (Hexdrinker if mid obviously) and you have yourself a tanky assasin who can initiate, bait cooldowns, and deal tons of AoE damage (see: 4.8 AD scaling ult).
 
Mr.E said:
I really don't understand how Trundle could be any good right now when the metasheep are all about ignoring resists and stacking HP. Who is he going to drain mitigation from if nobody is buying it? :(
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doublelift reasons that this is exactly why trundle is so strong - because he scales enormously well with health items. however, the main "overpowered" aspect of his kit is his pillar, which lasts 6.5 seconds and can potentially reach a 6.6 second cooldown i mean what the FUCK

CC is king in this meta and his pillar is uncleansable meaning that cleanse/QSS/scimitar/crucible are all useless against it because it's a terrain modifier. it's extremely effective at zoning out enemy assassins or to trap the enemy AD so your own assassins have an easier time. not to mention that he reaches irelia levels of CC reduction

basically if you want a CC bot you're going to want irelia/trundle/olaf, all of whom basically end up playing the same way but have different benefits in single target CC / AoE terrain modifier / immunity to CC and zero peel respectively

new world order: i believe xPeke ran mid wukong during EU LCS and went some ridiculous score like 11/2/16
 
So pookar, Earthworm, g80, Minwu, and I just got Crs Pluto in a draft normal. I don't know how. Needless to say, it didn't go well. Apparently he was being a dick on stream, idk why anyone with 2k elo would stream normals and then gloat about beating their opponents in lane like that (I had 900 ping too orz) but it was pretty fun to kill someone famous like that (even if stressful to be on stream), and since the game got out of control fast, just mess around trying to get what we could out of it, haha.

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No, we got a kill on him early in lane actually! g80 died ganking him in too deep, which gave him red, but he stayed in lane too low and we killed him shortly after. Then pookar came back into lane and Arcane Shifted and then got Leona'd and Pluto got his red back.

This is who Crs Pluto is, if you don't know.
 
Wow! I bet it was pretty scaring scanning the loading screen and suddenly seeing a 2200+ elo pro on the enemy team =X

I bet getting a kill on him felt good though :P
 
Xephyr said:
Wow! I bet it was pretty scaring scanning the loading screen and suddenly seeing a 2200+ elo pro on the enemy team =X

I bet getting a kill on him felt good though :P
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LOL, I didn't even notice Crs Pluto in the loading screen. We were on Mumble and fsr Mumble wasn't working with my headset, so I was really distracted. I just looked at the champs and said, 'Oh, fuck, seriously? They got Kha'Zix?' (because I was distracted throughout the draft process as well too) to myself, then went back to fixing it. When I got the audio working again, bought my items, and set off for bot lane, pookar said, 'Uhh, I don't wanna scare you, jumpluff, but we're kind of against CRS PLUTO...' or something to that effect and jeb PMed me telling me I was on stream, so I asked if I could disconnect after checking the scoreboard and freaking out. 'Cause shit's fucking scary.

Getting to kill Pluto felt good! I was p. happy. I've been following Pluto forever on Twitter now, actually. pookar said in all chat that he could retire from League now, and if he does, I'll be even happier.
 
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