Copyediting Litten (QC 2/2)(GP 0/1)

#1
[OVERVIEW]
Litten may have a good ability (although it can't switch in on Pawniard due to Defiant), but everything else about it is underwhelming in the competitive scene. Its movepool is quite shallow despite its access to useful moves like U-turn, its typing is unimpressive, its stats are average at best, and it’s horribly outclassed by other Fire-types such as Ponyta and Larvesta due to their better stats and access to reliable recovery. Its lack of coverage and utility options means you’re better off using a different Pokémon most of the time.

[SET]
name: Intimidate Pivot
move 1: U-Turn
move 2: Flare Blitz
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Fake Out
item: Berry Juice
ability: Intimidate
nature: Jolly
evs: 156 Atk / 116 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Litten does have the combination of Fake Out and Intimidate to get chip damage on opponents and lower their stats, allowing it to act as a somewhat decent pivot. Ponyta and Larvesta still outclass this set overall due to their better stats and access to Morning Sun, as well as being able to get a passive burn on opponents with Flame Body. If you desperately want a pivot with access to Fake Out, Mienfoo is a better choice due to it having better stats and increased longevity thanks to Regenerator.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mega-Pokebattlerz, 282306]]
- Quality checked by: [[Merritt, 213064], [Corporal Levi, 55063]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]
 
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Merritt

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#3
I don't think a Swords Dance set is the way to go here, trying to force Litten to work as a sweeper puts it into competition with Magby and Salandit in Fire-types alone where it's almost utterly outclassed. A pivoting set with Fake Out gives it a little room over Larvesta as something less weak to rocks and ultimately has more potential use to a team than a subpar sweeper. Litten might be bad either way, but it's still worth giving it the best set possible.

Set I'm going to strongly suggest is:

[SET]
name: Intimidate Pivot
move 1: U-turn
move 2: Flare Blitz
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Fake Out
item: Eviolite
ability: Intimidate
nature: Jolly
evs: 156 Atk / 116 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe

EVs let you avoid a 2HKO from 0 atk foo HJK without rocks, 17 speed lets you guarantee an outspeed and burn on Pawn which is something that Larvesta can't claim. Also means that in an absolutely necessary scenario it can go for the tie vs Onix and full speed Mienfoo to try and burn em.

Rewrite the analysis around this set, emphasize Larvesta and Ponyta for defensive fires with better stats, Morning Sun recovery, and Flame Body for passive burns, potentially mention Mienfoo for a pivot with access to Fake Out and better longevity and then tag me for QC check.
 
#4
I don't think a Swords Dance set is the way to go here, trying to force Litten to work as a sweeper puts it into competition with Magby and Salandit in Fire-types alone where it's almost utterly outclassed. A pivoting set with Fake Out gives it a little room over Larvesta as something less weak to rocks and ultimately has more potential use to a team than a subpar sweeper. Litten might be bad either way, but it's still worth giving it the best set possible.

Set I'm going to strongly suggest is:

[SET]
name: Intimidate Pivot
move 1: U-turn
move 2: Flare Blitz
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Fake Out
item: Eviolite
ability: Intimidate
nature: Jolly
evs: 156 Atk / 116 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe

EVs let you avoid a 2HKO from 0 atk foo HJK without rocks, 17 speed lets you guarantee an outspeed and burn on Pawn which is something that Larvesta can't claim. Also means that in an absolutely necessary scenario it can go for the tie vs Onix and full speed Mienfoo to try and burn em.

Rewrite the analysis around this set, emphasize Larvesta and Ponyta for defensive fires with better stats, Morning Sun recovery, and Flame Body for passive burns, potentially mention Mienfoo for a pivot with access to Fake Out and better longevity and then tag me for QC check.
You're right, this is a much better set. Thank you.
 

Merritt

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#5
[OVERVIEW]

Looks fine.

[SET]

Looks fine, GP thing add a space on either side around the / on the EVs (so 156 Atk / 116 Def, not 156 Atk/116 Def)

[SET COMMENTS]

Remove the sentence about what the EVs do, that's too much information for a psuedo analysis. I had it in the set recommendation to explain why those were the EVs, but they're not needed for the analysis itself.

Mienfoo has longevity due to Regenerator, not so much Drain Punch.

Implement these and then give yourself 1/2
 
#7
amcheck

[OVERVIEW]
I'd add something like: "Despite its access to U-turn..." before the start of the second phrase.
Mention the lack of reliable recovery to explain why Larvesta and Ponyta outclass Litten.

little tip, dont capitalise ability

[SET]
This is okay.

[SET COMMENTS]
This is okay, you may want to mention Ponyta along with Larvesta, as they both share Flame Body and Morning Sun.

"mienfoo", not meinfoo
 
#8
amcheck

[OVERVIEW]
I'd add something like: "Despite its access to U-turn..." before the start of the second phrase.
Mention the lack of reliable recovery to explain why Larvesta and Ponyta outclass Litten.

little tip, dont capitalise ability

[SET]
This is okay.

[SET COMMENTS]
This is okay, you may want to mention Ponyta along with Larvesta, as they both share Flame Body and Morning Sun.

"mienfoo", not meinfoo
Implemented.
 

Corporal Levi

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#9
Intimidate is pretty bad in this case because it activates Pawniard's Defiant - mention this in the overview (and don't say the ability is fantastic).

I think Berry Juice makes more sense as the item here.

I don't think Litten has any potential to be a good Pokemon, so remove that part.

2/2
 

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