Little Cup OU list

eric the espeon

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#1
Current one generated from jan/march/feb stats, will be updated whenever new stats come out since we don't have to worry about destabilising LC UU.

Anorith, Cyndaquil, Eevee, Horsea, Magby, Magnemite, Onix, Slowpoke, Squirtle, Wailmer, and Wooper are no longer OU.

Abra, Aipom, Bagon, Chimchar, Koffing, Omanyte, and Totodile are now in OU.

There are now 39 Pokemon in Little Cup-OU.

Code:
 Abra       
 Aipom      
 Aron     
 Bagon       
 Bronzor    
 Buizel     
 Carvanha   
 Chimchar   
 Chinchou   
 Croagunk   
 Diglett    
 Dratini    
 Drifloon   
 Duskull    
 Elekid     
 Gastly     
 Gible      
 Gligar     
 Hippopotas 
 Houndour   
 Kabuto     
 Koffing    
 Machop     
 Mankey     
 Mantyke    
 Meowth     
 Munchlax   
 Omanyte    
 Paras      
 Phanpy     
 Porygon    
 Snover     
 Staryu     
 Stunky     
 Taillow    
 Totodile   
 Voltorb    
 Wynaut
Interestingly, despite the huge weighting towards the most recent stats (20:3:1) Missy would still have made the OU list despite not being legal in the most recent batch of stats.

Edit: Have some numbers:

format gets kinda messed up by Pokemon with months when they get no use usage/those with long names, may fix sometime.
Columns: Pokemon | converted usage for jan | converted usage for feb | converted usage for March | combined weighted usage
Ordered by combined weighted usage. Bagon is the cut off point.
Code:
 Gligar         0.081846502    0.068691251    0.0830033    0.080250296
 Croagunk       0.069314642    0.045071102    0.041006601    0.065104698
 Gastly         0.067544605    0.02615088    0.017656766    0.060291729
 Houndour       0.064712546    0.03362256    0.03679868    0.05966322
 Munchlax       0.053242708    0.04736081    0.061221122    0.052839905
 Chinchou       0.045312943    0.035068691    0.014768977    0.042759746
 Bronzor        0.045312943    0.02175223    0.028877888    0.04168306
 Dratini        0.03462192    0.039346831    0.027970297    0.034935383
 Wynaut         0.030798641    0.032537961    0.028465347    0.030918835
 Machop         0.028745398    0.025066281    0.037211221    0.028638251
 Snover         0.026550552    0.030670041    0.041171617    0.027674699
 Elekid         0.026762957    0.030730297    0.030610561    0.027419191
 Kabuto         0.025134523    0.02120993    0.031188119    0.024896182
 Aron           0.022373265    0.014521572    0.002805281    0.020576471
 Mantyke        0.018691589    0.032839238    0.008663366    0.020042203
 Meowth         0.019682809    0.014160039    0.022524753    0.019110877
 Carvanha       0.015434721    0.01747409    0.047937294    0.017043916
 Duskull        0.017063155    0.015907448    0.00519802    0.016424311
 Paras          0.014514302    0.02560858    0.00470297    0.015492281
 Omanyte        0.014797508    0.016329236    0.02029703    0.015218121
 Diglett        0.015222317    0.012774163    0.011881188    0.014777084
 Mankey         0.013806287    0.005422994    0.016749175    0.012880996
 Misdreavus         0.062424681    0.11980198    0.012794834
 Taillow        0.009983008    0.019281755    0.005115512    0.010942539
 Chimchar       0.009062589    0.01747409    0.007590759    0.0100527
 Staryu         0.009770603    0.010183177    0.013778878    0.009989186
 Porygon        0.010337015    0.007772957    0.006105611    0.009840199
 Drifloon       0.009416596    0.011267775    0.002640264    0.009365646
 Stunky         0.004885302    0.022897084    0.032755776    0.008298045
 Aipom          0.00913339    0.001024343    0.009158416    0.008120802
 Hippopotas     0.006867743    0.014099783    0.010313531    0.007915323
 Totodile       0.008920986    0.001626898    0.00379538    0.007795658
 Koffing        0.008708581    0.001988431    0.000577558    0.00752977
 Voltorb        0.00672614    0.010484454    0.012541254    0.007438226
 Buizel         0.006796941    0.010424199    0.00660066    0.00724217
 Abra           0.007080147    0.00867679    0.002475248    0.007087857
 Phanpy         0.007080147    0.00626657    0.004537954    0.006872525
 Gible          0.005805721    0.009701133    0.003712871    0.006205445
 Bagon          0.006301331    0.005061461    0.005280528    0.006103814
 Slowpoke       0.006018125    0.003434563    0.00140264    0.005502868
 Cranidos       0.004743699    0.003434563    0.014356436    0.004980588
 Krabby         0.004885302    0.004278139    0.004125413    0.004777745
 Onix           0.005380912    0.00120511    0.002887789    0.004755057
 Eevee          0.0048145    0.004880694    0.002062706    0.004708116
 Magnemite      0.00431889    0.005362738    0.003052805    0.004396617
 Ponyta         0.00240725    0.016268981    0.004620462    0.004232184
 Riolu          0.004389691    0.002470475    0.001567657    0.004032204
 Poliwag        0.003327669    0.008074235    0.002310231    0.003878597
 Teddiursa      0.003256868    0.007833213    0.002392739    0.003792906
 Magby          0.003752478    0.002952519    0.003877888    0.003657709
 Turtwig        0.004177287    0.000964088    0.00049505    0.003622211
 Wailmer        0.003610875    0.001928176    0.002557756    0.003356658
 Bellsprout     0.003540074    0.001566643    0.00049505    0.003166519
 Lileep         0.002619655    0.006507592    0.001485149    0.003058376
 Horsea         0.001840838    0.007712702    0.00990099    0.002910661
 Shuppet        0.002832059    0.003856351    0.000825083    0.002876472
 Trapinch       0.003327669    0.000602555        0.002848377
 Squirtle       0.002761258    0.003916606    0.001072607    0.002835316
 Charmander     0.002973662    0.001265365    0.000660066    0.002663725
 Natu           0.002548853    0.001747409    0.002145215    0.002431854
 Exeggcute      0.002478052    0.000964088    0.00049505    0.002206181
 Anorith        0.001840838    0.003856351    0.002805281    0.002132962
 Shinx          0.002478052        0.000165017    0.002071919
 Larvitar       0.00191164    0.00186792    0.001567657    0.001891842
 Bulbasaur      0.001628434    0.003193541    0.000660066    0.001783724
 Growlithe      0.001982441    0.000421788    0.001320132    0.001759763
 Cacnea         0.00141603    0.003314052    0.003630363    0.001745547
 Cubone         0.001699235    0.001265365    0.000660066    0.001601703
 Hoothoot       0.001840838    0.000180767        0.001556628
 Mareep         0.00141603    6.02555E-05    0.001155116    0.001235687
 Barboach       0.000920419    0.002952519    0.000660066    0.001163583
 Bidoof         0.001203625    0.00120511        0.00115366
 Pineco         0.000849618    0.001024343    0.006353135    0.001100772
 Zigzagoon      0.001062022    0.000964088    0.001650165    0.001074286
 Venonat        0.000566412    0.00373584    0.002145215    0.001028374
 Grimer         0.001203625    6.02555E-05    0.000412541    0.001027742
 Shroomish      0.000778816    0.001928176    0.003135314    0.001020673
 Shellder       0.000920419    0.001687154    0.000577558    0.001001975
 Geodude        0.000920419    0.000602555    0.001072607    0.000887027
 Buneary        0.000354007    0.002289708    0.006023102    0.000832182
 Doduo          0.000708015    0.001566643    0.000990099    0.000827097
 Baltoy         0.000849618    0.000783321    0.000165017    0.000812806
 Ekans          0.000424809    0.002349964    0.003547855    0.00079558
 Smoochum       0.000778816    0.001084599        0.000784588
 Lickitung      0.00049561    0.00186792    0.003217822    0.000780574
 Oddish         0.000778816    0.00066281    0.000165017    0.00073874
 Mime Jr.       0.000283206    0.003976862    8.25083E-05    0.000736551
 Spheal         0.000566412    0.001988431    0.000330033    0.000734315
 Clamperl       0.000424809    0.002349964    0.001732673    0.000719948
 Snorunt        0.000354007    0.003314052        0.000709262
 Makuhita       0.000778816    0.000241022    0.000330033    0.000692892
 Seel           0.000424809    0.002169197    0.000412541    0.000642346
 Glameow        0.000637213    0.00066281    0.000247525    0.000624176
 Slugma         0.00049561    0.001024343    0.000247525    0.000551365
 Torchic        0.00049561    0.000903832    0.000330033    0.000539739
 Tentacool      0.000424809    0.000723066    0.000990099    0.000485645
 Numel          0.000354007    0.001385876    0.000412541    0.00048543
 Skitty         0.000566412            0.00047201
 Chikorita      0.000424809    0.000602555    0.000742574    0.000460267
 Cyndaquil      0.000354007    0.001144854    0.00049505    0.00045874
 Corphish       0.00049561    0.000301277    0.000165017    0.000457544
 Treecko        7.08E-05    0.002229453    0.002805281    0.00045457
 Drowzee        0.000424809        0.002392739    0.000453705
 Poochyena      0.00049561    0.000241022        0.000443136
 Vulpix         0.00049561    0.000120511        0.000428072
 Nosepass       0.000424809    0.000421788    8.25083E-05    0.000410169
 Swablu         0.000424809    0.000180767    0.000247525    0.000386917
 Remoraid       0.000283206    0.000361533    0.001155116    0.000329326
 Goldeen        0.000283206    0.000361533    0.00049505    0.000301824
 Rhyhorn        0.000212405    0.000301277    0.000907591    0.00025248
 Swinub         0.000141603    0.000964088    0.000247525    0.000248827
 Electrike      0.000283206    6.02555E-05    8.25083E-05    0.000246975
 Shieldon       0.000212405    0.000482044    0.000165017    0.000244135
 Cherubi        0.000283206    6.02555E-05        0.000243537
 Seedot         0.000141603    0.000783321    0.000247525    0.000226231
 Tyrogue        0.000212405    0.000361533        0.000222196
 Sandshrew          0.000903832    0.002557756    0.000219552
 Sentret        7.08E-05    0.001144854        0.000202108
 Ralts          0.000141603    0.000180767    0.000660066    0.000168101
 Pidgey         0.000141603    0.000361533        0.000163194
 Wooper             0.000964088    0.00049505    0.000141138
 Lotad          0.000141603    6.02555E-05    0.000330033    0.000139286
 Cleffa             0.001084599        0.000135575
 Azurill        0.000141603            0.000118003
 Skorupi        7.08E-05    0.000361533    0.000330033    0.000117944
 Ledyba         7.08E-05    0.000301277    0.000412541    0.00011385
 Psyduck            0.000421788    0.000742574    8.36641E-05
 Surskit            0.000361533    0.000660066    7.26944E-05
 Spoink         7.08E-05    6.02555E-05    8.25083E-05    6.9971E-05
 Hoppip         7.08E-05    6.02555E-05        6.65332E-05
 Piplup             0.000241022    0.000742574    6.10683E-05
 Wingull        7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
 Azumarill      7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
 Shiftry        7.08E-05            5.90013E-05
 Pichu              0.000361533    0.000330033    0.000058943
 Spinarak           0.000421788    8.25083E-05    5.61613E-05
 Mudkip             0.000301277    0.000247525    4.79732E-05
 Igglybuff          0.000120511    0.000742574    4.60045E-05
 Zubat              0.000301277    0.000165017    4.45353E-05
 Budew              0.000301277        3.76596E-05
 Nidoran-m            0.000825083    3.43785E-05
 Finneon            6.03E-05    0.000577558    3.15969E-05
 Spearow            0.000180767    8.25083E-05    2.60337E-05
 Shellos            0.000577558    2.40649E-05
 Snubbull           0.000180767        2.25959E-05
 Combee             0.000180767        2.25959E-05
 Togepi             6.03E-05    0.000247525    1.78455E-05
 Marill             0.000412541    1.71892E-05
 Starly             0.000120511        1.50639E-05
 Bonsly             6.03E-05        7.53194E-06
 Magikarp             0.000165017    6.87571E-06
 Happiny            0.000165017    6.87571E-06
 Feebas             0.000165017    6.87571E-06
 Weedle             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 Wurmple            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 Beldum             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 Burmy            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 Caterpie             8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 Nincada            8.25E-05    3.43785E-06
 
#2
I hope people aren't afraid to post here :(

My predictions
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The only "locks" to stay in the top 5 will be Gligar (thanks to phenomenal stats, typing, and moves) and Gastly (best choice scarfer, has 3 immunities and hits everything hard enough to 2hko (except lileep in sand, some bronzor, and munchlax). As far as croagunk, hounour, and munchlax go, they are definitely not guaranteed to retain their top 5 status. Machop is now becoming popular as far as fighting-types go thanks to DynamicPunch and having merit as a lead. With Snover's fairly high usage, is a water absorber / RD counter so important? Houndour is not digging the high usage of Carvahna, who can kill Houndour as well. Vahna makes a much better sweeper, although Houndour does have him beat as far as mixed sets go. Munchlax is the best special wall in LC but the game is shifting to physical attackers in my eyes, or even more stallish play. Munchlax is still very good but it is already teetering at that 5th slot, don't be surprised to see Chinchou or Bronzor jump him.

Krabby and Lileep will jump to OU I think, its rapid popularity thanks to Eo is catching on. Krabby is a great Agility sweeper and only 2 slots down from the cutoff.

As far as the metagame goes: More physical attackers with a special sweeping cleaner, such as Mantyke.
 
#3
Er, I wasn't sure if we were supposed to post here. o___o

Yeah, I'm definitely expecting Lileep to jump up there, it's incredibly hard to kill in Sandstorm and stuff. I'm kind of surprised to see Anorith drop, though... his speed and Attack are great, it's too bad he's not seeing more usage.
 

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#4
I think the #littlecup cups would actually give a more accurate reading of what's being used. Anyway, no surprises here.
 
#5
I'm not sure how great stats from the #littlecup cups would be because, for example people like Eo use the same team every time, which would end up weighting the stats.
 

eric the espeon

maybe I just misunderstood
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#6
When the next set of stats comes out, I'm going to try and extract LC stats from the unrated CaP battles. There will be a fair amount of pollution from unrated NU/other NFEs, but it should be possible to filter out a majority of the noise. Not sure if we should base the OU list off that, but it's always nice to have more stats.
 

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#7
I'm not sure how great stats from the #littlecup cups would be because, for example people like Eo use the same team every time, which would end up weighting the stats.
Since when is indirectly weighting the stats a bad thing? Isn't that a good thing? In fact that's probably the best thing about them; it indirectly weighs the stats to see what the winners are using because they get to play more matches.
 
#8
Incidentally, I know the lists are based primarily off of usage, but usage depends on which Pokemon are effective and whatnot. For the most part, I think we have a fairly accurate reading of that...
 

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