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Lockdown Mafia (Gangsters win, yo)
- Thread starter Seven Deadly Sins
- Start date
No, you were suspicious prior to the whole incident.
Lets get the ball rolling:
Voting CrabNebula
His last two posts have been largely bullshit. I have no idea how he does his math.
EDIT: REMOVE VOTE
I have no intentions of starting a bandwagon; I would like to hear from CN though.
Lets get the ball rolling:
Voting CrabNebula
His last two posts have been largely bullshit. I have no idea how he does his math.
EDIT: REMOVE VOTE
I have no intentions of starting a bandwagon; I would like to hear from CN though.
yeah, this is total bullshit. everyone is going to claim vanilla villager in this game. (well except possibly the snoop, but now there's no hope of that)
lynch crabnebula
Are you revealing that you are the twin person then?
If you have no evidence, who coerced you into voting?
If you have no evidence, who coerced you into voting?
I don't see any post by you that claims you promised anything to anyone, which leaves me with two options:
You can talk to other users by PM.
You are the idiot who posted during the night and had his post deleted.
Which is it.
You can talk to other users by PM.
You are the idiot who posted during the night and had his post deleted.
Which is it.
if you are the twin, you should absolutely not claim it. pretend to be vanilla
For the record, Fishy and Sikh Assassin posted during the night. I know that Fishy deleted her posts, not sure who deleted Sikh Assassin's, or what it contained.
I am sorry but I don't recall him being suspicious for any reason except not posting.billymills said:
billymills said:
Please post the reasons on which you say its "largely bullshit". Otherwise I'll take this just as spouting nonsense for want of a better word.
Umbreon Dan said:
Did you even read my post at all? I clearly gave reasons on why, if you are vanillager, you shouldn't claim vanillager or claim at all. So how will "everyone" claim vanillager?
And why were you hoping for an inspector claim? If he claimed so early in the game, mafia is sure to counter-claim, risking inspector's life and making it easy for him to get killed. Really not a good idea if you were village.
Also SDS, can we get Ace Matador subbed out? Or at least prodded to post? Thanks.
Edit: Also, I don't like the particpation that this game has right now. More people need to post more of substance. We will not be winning this way if no one is going to bother thinking.
Edit: Also, I don't like the particpation that this game has right now. More people need to post more of substance. We will not be winning this way if no one is going to bother thinking.
For the CN bandwagon, I personally don't think there's enough "evidence" other than the fact that he voted Kumar on Day 1. I'd be more suspicious of the people who jumped on his voting bandwagon with little to no suspicion whatsoever. Or of billymills, who voted (with conviction) then withdrew, which can be considered a mafia tell.
And for the record, jumpluff, GTS, Fishy, Ace Matador, Bass and twash need to post a lot more. As CN said, discussion means it's harder for the mafia not to make mistakes. Remember, if we lynch CN, we lose one of the main discussion leaders.
And for the record, jumpluff, GTS, Fishy, Ace Matador, Bass and twash need to post a lot more. As CN said, discussion means it's harder for the mafia not to make mistakes. Remember, if we lynch CN, we lose one of the main discussion leaders.
There's really not much to say of substance at this point though..generally I am not going to vote anybody when there is no real hint of evidence. I'm sorry, but we've already shot ourselves in the foot and I don't want it to happen again. The only person I would possibly lynch today with no real evidence is Ace Matador because he hasn't posted at all and is less likely to be helpful because of it, but then if he might be subbed that option is poor (plus the fact that I still think lynching Ace because he hasn't posted proves nothing much).
Is it? Then why did you lynch Kumar, who was one of the most active users around?
Compared to your next post, this math mistake is negligible. Someone could easily have forgotten the recruit, or assumed there was a hooker.
There's like 8 villagers, why on earth would you be suspicious of any of them. It doesn't make sense to have 8 people claiming bg, that just makes things overly confusing.
Huh? He made a math mistake, and that's your best reason for thinking he's mafia?
Just lol.
1. If we get down to tied, the mafia win, no doubt about it. You can't lynch 5 mafia with 5 village, where the fuck do you get that from?
2. Remember the twins, they die as 1.
3. At least MENTION the bg.
Even then, this is a pretty good strawman: I don't see how waiting for 1 day is even remotely similar to waiting for 7 days. One is a rather neutral move, whereas the other assures defeat.
Also, to mekkah: I had no intentions of starting a bandwagon. I removed my vote so that CN wouldn't be lynched before he had a chance to respond.
So obviously:
Lynch JumpluffIn her only post, she seemed a little too protective of Thorns =/
No Lynch as of yet - Posting to say i had nothing relevant to post about, Mekkah.
Huh? I don't mean to sound like I'm "a little too protective of Jumpluff", I just don't understand what happened in your head between your whole post and the last two lines... I don't think lynching CN is a good idea anyway, but Pluff didn't strike me as very suspicious either; this is the only thing she said:
Jumpluff said:
...On the other hand, you voted for CN, then withdrew your vote, then voted for Jumpluff - and none of your votes had evidence backing it up. As you said yourself, "I have no intentions of starting a bandwagon", so please at least provide a bit more reasoning in the future...
You don't.
Just because I vote does not imply I want to start a bandwagon. I want to hear people out. You said it yourself: that's ALL she said. Her ONLY post is trying to pin blame on me for voting thorns.
Why do people skim so much? When did I ever vote for Kumar because he was not contributing? I voted him because I did not like his favouring no lynch and randlynching would cause a power role to out himself (in which case bg is there to protect him), both not being in favour of town.billymills said:
Even if someone forgot the recruit or assumed the hooker, the chance of getting a mafia decreases to 4/17 which is the SAME as getting a power role, not LESS. So my argument still holds, however it seems you did not think your argument through...billymills said:
It would be FANTASTIC if 8 people claim bodyguard. The real bodyguard is hidden among these people, so mafia cannot get him. It makes it more confusing for the mafia, not the village. You do not want this?billymills said:
billymills said:
Trying to put words in mouth after just asking me the reason to lynch Kumar in the first of your post?
True, the mafia win a day earlier. How does it help village?billymills said:
billymills said:
Seems someone cracked under pressure and is trying to deflect attention....
until it is proven or admitted otherwise, everyone is assumed to be a vanillager. i don't need to state "i am vanillager" because that's what i'm doing just by posting. also, none of the remaining power roles or mafia will ever claim anything other than vanilla.
there's no such thing as "not claiming at all". the closest you can get is ace matador, who hadn't posted until just now.
you seem to be strongly in favour of a randlynch. i'm up for randlynching you then.
i'm not changing my vote until i see a good reason to.
My previous post illustrates what are all wrong with billymills reasonings.
Additionally, the thing that aroused my suspicions the most was
The bolded part shows his reluctance to take the blame for my lynch. When people see I am town, he would be in the dock. And the only way he would know I am town is, if he is mafia. Otherwise there would have been no reason to remove that vote.
However, what seals it is
Not retialate = free lynch?
vote billymills
Additionally, the thing that aroused my suspicions the most was
The bolded part shows his reluctance to take the blame for my lynch. When people see I am town, he would be in the dock. And the only way he would know I am town is, if he is mafia. Otherwise there would have been no reason to remove that vote.
However, what seals it is
Not retialate = free lynch?
vote billymills
duh, nobody wants to take the blame for any mislynch. that doesn't mean he "knows" you are a villager. I considered withdrawing myself, but your logic is horrible, ie; that of mafia.
also i have bigger balls than billymills
Are you fucking kidding me. You have to be joking.
I have clearly stated my reasons for removing my lynch. I DID NOT WANT TO LYNCH YOU WITHOUT GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
I THOUGHT HE WASN'T PLAYING. IF HE ISN'T PLAYING, HE CAN'T RETALIATE.
Vote CrabNebula
Bandwagon this all you want, cause I can't believe any villager would be this stupid.
Dear god... Let me attempt to make some sense of this.
You then proceeded to lynch someone who was very active. That does not follow for me.
You said clearly that removing someone who was inactive was better than nothing. Please explain, especially when we can just sub them out.
You then proceeded to lynch someone who was very active. That does not follow for me.
What argument, you just seem to be drawing statistics and claims out of mid-air, those that really are impertinent. I'm not exactly sure what you are attempting to prove here.
9 people claiming bodyguard is exactly the same as 9 people claiming villager. I don't see how claiming bodyguard is better or worse. In the event that there are 2 power roles, then you get division between the village (5 people claiming inspect, 5 bg), and the mafia have better chances of getting exactly who they're looking for.
Erm, I quoted the your argument, and the second sentence is clearly a mathematical miscalculation on someone's part. How am I putting words in your mouth?
That's completely beside the point. You fucked up 3 premises on a simple strawman...
Actually it's the best way I can prod for action, since I can't go around PMing asking for them to be active. Now I have no doubts you are mafia, so I won't go around rand-voting anymore.
Hello I am a good guy. Lynching me would only decrease the number of the village.
EDIT:
Also, aside from this whole CN/Billymills arguement being amusing, I'm going to have to side with billy.
Granted, it was a very small chance to have lynched the snoop on N1, but you sir seem to be in "THE DOCK". And as far as "no other reason to remove that vote," Why would a villager want to risk lynching another villager before hearing the guy out? Learn to analyze.
EDIT:
Did this strike anyone else as funny? I may be a general forum-mafia novice, but I don't know, (hypothetically speaking) if CN wants AceMatador to post "so badly," it seems to me like he is either curious to see if he's a vanillager, or he wants his lazy ass partner (in mafia) to post so as to not be subbed out. That may be a very superficial observation, but I'm just trying to contribute to discussions here.
Also, aside from this whole CN/Billymills arguement being amusing, I'm going to have to side with billy.
lol. Are you TRYING to implicate yourself with your flawed logic? IIRC, it was only you and Toothache who voted for Kumar, the Village's Snoop, and toothache's only reasoning was that it would be better to lynch someone on the chances of getting a bad guy than not voting someone and leaving all bad guys possibly alive. However, you spewed yet more bogus logic to get Kumar lynched, and not only was he a villager, but the snoop.
Granted, it was a very small chance to have lynched the snoop on N1, but you sir seem to be in "THE DOCK". And as far as "no other reason to remove that vote," Why would a villager want to risk lynching another villager before hearing the guy out? Learn to analyze.