NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Votecount 3.1: Who Pinched Charizard's Tail?
des121
(3): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (11): Aura Guardian, HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, CrreamyKitty, skippergamez, charlieum, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

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gm

I have not made up my mind on DBD yet but assuming maf!des flip (probably happening, but I could see ITP too?) I would not immediately jump down DBD's throat tomorrow assuming des actually flips as roleblock. There's too much wifom between DBD genuinely being roleblocked, an idled roleblock mafia gambit or maybe other things I haven't thought of. Will try to get more firm thoughts ironed out today.

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Votecount 2.8: AF Finally Gives a Reason to Update
pulsar512b
(3): des121, charlieum, Vizh
bluedoom (3): sunny004, Aura Guardian, skippergamez
Dead by Daylight (3): Lechen, HydrogenHydreigon, a fairy
skippergamez (2): bluedoom, Lechen, CrreamyKitty
NightEmerald (2): Dead by Daylight, Mekkah
CrreamyKitty (1): pulsar512b

Not Voting (1): NightEmerald

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I’m fine with this wagon formation, I would like all the Skipper and NE voters + pulsar and NE to vote on one of the lead 3.

Vote Pulsar

Thinking on if this makes DBD/Pulsar definitely unpaired. It is less likely but I think based on previous posts DBD would've had a hard time getting away with voting bluedoom? Would need to doublecheck.
 
Sure but I can’t really pull up posts right now

Town:
me - my role PM says I am
AF + AG - AG claims to have “near-completely” greenchecked AF, and I don’t see two scum partners doing this

Townlean
CK - I think the kill claim leans towny, I don’t think mafia is claiming the kill this early under the guise of a vig when they had no reason or pressure to do so

Sunny - seems to be solving from a town thought process, and I don’t see anything against him for now

Bluedoom: if the RB claim is truthful, I see no reason for s!bluedoom to potentially have blocked me

Null:
Vizh - has displayed some good towny solving, but not to the extent where I feel comfortable throwing him into a townlean

Des
Skipper
Mekkah
NE
pulsar

I feel like Mekkah’s gone UTR for a lot of this game with his occasional pop-ins, would like to potentially pressure this slot
Votes atp were 5-3 with 20 minutes to deadline so if this is a maf post it would probably try to spew very minimally, which does kinda fit the barebones post here, but it's also rushed to not even including the entire playerlist so time constraints are a real consideration too.
 
Oh yeah I want to clarify something real quick. When I said this:
DBD will answer for this if it's ont true
This was in response to him saying des claimed rber after I came into thread not knowing that. Since I think DBD is pretty sussy I was a little worried it was some kind of trick by DBD. But in this particular case I think it was a fair assessment of his. If I end up voting DBD after today it'll be because of his lackluster and scarce posts on D1, and trying to frame me with some pretty bad logic (as I explain in 2798 onwards)
 
gm

I have not made up my mind on DBD yet but assuming maf!des flip (probably happening, but I could see ITP too?) I would not immediately jump down DBD's throat tomorrow assuming des actually flips as roleblock. There's too much wifom between DBD genuinely being roleblocked, an idled roleblock mafia gambit or maybe other things I haven't thought of. Will try to get more firm thoughts ironed out today.

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my 2809 is in response to this btw.
 
When you say unpaired do you mean DBD/Pulsar are t/s, or just not s/s?
Not s/s because DBD could've tried to push now flipped town bluedoom off of a cliff to save Pulsar but voted Pulsar instead. From what I remember it would've been a little awkward for DBD to go bluedoom over Pulsar but I am not sure if I am just hallucinating that and need to reread DBD's posts.
 
I find it hard thinking that maf!DBD wouldn't think he had any chance to win an eod 1v1 against town!Pulsar so idk if this makes s/s more likely if DBD is actually maf? But maybe makes him look better if Pulsar is town.
 
Yeah I've been thinking about that a bit, but bluedoom was voted off by a pretty large margin right? It was like how on D1 I think scum could park a lot of votes off-wagon while being confident that AligningStar was going to get the most votes.
 
Aura Guardian - Null. Slight TL due to claim but easily could be scum
Dead by Daylight - written about at length. SR this
Lechen - from mech perspective town imo
HydrogenHydreigon - town af
Mekkah - null. UTR. Needs pressure
BD - SR obv
AF - the green check by ag complicates matters but I can see in townmeta
CK - town. If still alive by D5 vote him out
skipper - slight SL.
Vizh - TL
Charlie - TL
Des - If BD flips town vote this out tmrw
Pulsar - SR
NightEmerald - Slight SR
Can you explain this line Sunny btw?
 
Yeah I've been thinking about that a bit, but bluedoom was voted off by a pretty large margin right? It was like how on D1 I think scum could park a lot of votes off-wagon while being confident that AligningStar was going to get the most votes.
Once des counterclaimed the wagon numbers stopped because the vote was never going to go any other way ftr. Wrt potential wagon moves at phase end only a fairy really seemed to have potentialy to move though so I think if des didn't claim it was probably going to be DBD?
 
Votecount 3.1: Who Pinched Charizard's Tail?
des121
(3): Vizh, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty
pulsar512b (0): des121

Not Voting (11): Aura Guardian, HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, CrreamyKitty, skippergamez, charlieum, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

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ok Des appears to have been vote-negated here
 
Aura Guardian - Null. Slight TL due to claim but easily could be scum
Dead by Daylight - written about at length. SR this
Lechen - from mech perspective town imo
HydrogenHydreigon - town af
Mekkah - null. UTR. Needs pressure
BD - SR obv
AF - the green check by ag complicates matters but I can see in townmeta
CK - town. If still alive by D5 vote him out
skipper - slight SL.
Vizh - TL
Charlie - TL
Des - If BD flips town vote this out tmrw
Pulsar - SR
NightEmerald - Slight SR
I do understand the read, but why day 5 in particular?
 
on a reread:
i still think dbd's d1 and early d2 are still horrendous per my previous reasoning
dbd's suggestion to consolidate the wagons is interesting. he specifically psuhes himself/ne/bd. im not sure what this indicates but it pinged me
he keeps asking ppl to towncase themselves/mafiacase other which is kinda weird to me. i dont think the former is very effective bc if you're just going to take their word for it and not seek out a towncase on them themselves thats not really solving imo. the latter is even worse bc you're forcing ppl into 1v1s against each other for no reason whatif they dont even scumread each other? he says tis to "see solving ability" which then you're basically policy voting ppl in a not very good way? im kind of confused tbh
the block confusion feels genuine, but that could come from either a town/mafia pov tbh
okay something else just pinged me. the whole eod he never really pushed any reads it was just "we should consolidate in the top three wagons" stuff like that, see my prev point + 2407. its kind of weird to read bc he was also in the top three wagons and i dont know if mafia does that but i think if pulsar flips town i scumread him more off this?
overall its just the sparseness of his own reads + lack of explanation when that happens (see 2443 where ik some thing r explain but its so generic and obvious theres no analysis) that make be go eh on him. the only think ive liked so fair is him saying "I feel like Mekkah’s gone UTR for a lot of this game with his occasional pop-ins, would like to potentially pressure this slot" (2443 again). i dont know how i feel about his mekkah push today.
 
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