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2) he's asking to be sheped too early for town hal usually he will wait longer to impact the game because he doesn't trust other players to not choke if he gets himself nightkilled by leading town early
Ftr I think apricity/fen are probably my strongest town reads, but I can see why the events between late day 1 and now look kind of strange on apricity's part.

Assuming he was scum, defending me and getting nuxl killed would put him in the best position. That way, I would have reason to trust him and sheep him because nuxl said he read him town, and apricity got the last lynch correct and would be the best gamesolver, and nuxl wouldn't be there to change his mind if apricity slipped later.

Tbf though Nuxl was understandably the ideal kill, regardless of whether or not apricity is mafia, after we all confirmed that we would vote Sultan / BG him because Nuxl was universally read town and one of the better gamesolvers. After we all agreed to vote for Sultan because he's claimed vigi, I think anybody with a brain would have killed nuxl if they were mafia, not just apricity.

I don't like him suggesting me to sheep him-and I won't sheep him unless I at least to some extent agree with him, as blindly following somebody is lazy, but I don't think thats a good enough reason to scumread him.

Would me flipping town change your mind about hal? jw.
 

Duskfall98

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This is the post that I made to bluedoom while we were still in RVS that I reference in the next post after DS votes me saying it came off as scummy.
Another tangent trying to change the subject :(

Others were assuming my post was ai either noobtown or scum, and I was trying to defend myself in an objective way by suggesting that either alignment could make that post. I don't think this is a scumslip as you suggest.
They were assuming it was ai because it was in fact ai. You realise that you saying it is not holds zero weight at all and no one should ever listen to you saying your own post is not ai?

You just go on tangent after tangent. I don't care what reason you made the post for as I've already said. You keep avoiding the points I'm actually making and trying to fill out responses by going on tangent after tangent.

If you don't want to respond to what I'm saying then don't bother, I'm not interested in hearing you try tell me of all the other towny things you have done when I point out a scummy thing. If you can't defend the point ive made let's just leave it at that and I'll park my vote. This conversation is wasting both of our times because you clearly have no interest in actually answering the questions I ask, you just are attempting to use me as a proxy to say how you are towny (which btw, is in fact scummy).
 

Duskfall98

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Ftr I think apricity/fen are probably my strongest town reads, but I can see why the events between late day 1 and now look kind of strange on apricity's part.

Assuming he was scum, defending me and getting nuxl killed would put him in the best position. That way, I would have reason to trust him and sheep him because nuxl said he read him town, and apricity got the last lynch correct and would be the best gamesolver, and nuxl wouldn't be there to change his mind if apricity slipped later.

Tbf though Nuxl was understandably the ideal kill, regardless of whether or not apricity is mafia, after we all confirmed that we would vote Sultan / BG him because Nuxl was universally read town and one of the better gamesolvers. After we all agreed to vote for Sultan because he's claimed vigi, I think anybody with a brain would have killed nuxl if they were mafia, not just apricity.

I don't like him suggesting me to sheep him-and I won't sheep him unless I at least to some extent agree with him, as blindly following somebody is lazy, but I don't think thats a good enough reason to scumread him.

Would me flipping town change your mind about hal? jw.
Yes
 

Duskfall98

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Assuming he was scum, defending me and getting nuxl killed would put him in the best position. That way, I would have reason to trust him and sheep him because nuxl said he read him town, and apricity got the last lynch correct and would be the best gamesolver, and nuxl wouldn't be there to change his mind if apricity slipped later.
How can you have this logic yet also have him as your top town read?
 

Duskfall98

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I don't think me flipping town should make hal look any cleaner. If he's scum, he's using me as a village idiot because he knows that I'm inexperienced and because nuxl "cleaned" me early on. Ftr- I doubt hal is scum, but if he is, me flipping town shouldn't make you doubt him less.
If you think he's town why are you encouraging me to lynch him...
 

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Fwiw, purposefully avoiding the thread doesn't make you look great
but you're probably town

i was thinking about this earlier

you're either bad town or REALLY good scum

and i was thinking to myself that you were either scum with exactly nuxl or you were town

so nuxl flipped town and therefore i guess you are town
 
If you think he's town why are you encouraging me to lynch him...
How can you have this logic yet also have him as your top town read?
Because I don't trust anybody implicitly at this point in the game. I think its important to look at every possible angle of a situation, and if hal were scum using me as a village idiot, he would be in a damn good position.

I don't think Nuxl dying and the sheeping post is enough to contort a situation in which me and hal are a scum team, but if you assume hal is scum, its stupid to think me flipping town makes him look any better.

It would be much smarter for hal to make a gullible townie with bad reading ability mayor than to bring so much attention to his own teammate. Thats where the logic falls apart.
 

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