NOC Mayor Mafia - Democracy Prevails

[Duskfall98]

Why at the time of the post was nuxl or marth being mafia not something to consider?

 

[Samoyed]

so dusk fall for theory purposes lets say Mewtwo is scum.

why tf is hal scum then

 

[M2H]

That's assuming marth and nuxl aren't mafia, something you couldn't know page 4 if you aren't mafia.

I don't see how that post suggests that I felt nuxl/bluedoom were confirmed town. If you read the post farther I explained that gathering info on both of them was the motivation for making the post-regardless of how good of a question it was.

 

[Duskfall98]

1) I knew when I was speccing because he asked people to vote mewtwo for mayor and town hal wouldn't do that

2) he's asking to be sheped too early for town hal usually he will wait longer to impact the game because he doesn't trust other players to not choke if he gets himself nightkilled by leading town early

3) nuxl has the best read of hal on smogon probably so his d1 death is indicative of scum hal

But Mewtwo is the lynch today anyways

 

[Duskfall98]

I don't see how that post suggests that I felt nuxl/bluedoom were confirmed town. If you read the post farther I explained that gathering info on both of them was the motivation for making the post-regardless of how good of a question it was.

How does mafia benefit from putting attention on nuxl/marth if they were scum

 

[M2H]

Sultan only got 9 votes for mayor which is really weird? Maybe people idled I guess. We need to be united because the mafia has powerful tools.

That's possible. People who die at night don't have their vote counted so there would be 11 people. Assuming both mafia members didn't vote for Sultan, that would make sense. Its also possibly idlers.

I think everybody should claim their votes in the thread, so tracker can find out if anybody is lying. I'll start. I voted for Sultan.

 

[M2H]

How does mafia benefit from putting attention on nuxl/marth if they were scum

This is a stupid question. In that post I specified that if I were scum I would still have had reason to make that post. My post is assuming two different scenarios and in both scenario I would have made the post that ds read me as scum for making. My point is that my post isn't ai.

If I were mafia I would want to put the spotlight on anybody but myself, thats the point I was making.

 

[Samoyed]

i voted sultan

vote claim everyday is good
helps with clarity and tracker can call people out

 

[Duskfall98]

This is a stupid question. In that post I specified that if I were scum I would still have had reason to make that post. My post is assuming two different scenarios and in both scenario I would have made the post that ds read me as scum for making. My point is that my post isn't ai.

If I were mafia I would want to put the spotlight on anybody but myself, thats the point I was making.

You are mistaken idc about the overall content of the post at all or what reason you had for posting it. All I care about is how town you could ever have the knowledge that marth and nuxl are town and therefore would be a good target for mafia to direct discussion. Stop going off on a tangent.

 

[Duskfall98]

I voted sultan too

 

[Whydon]

were we supposed to vote sultan lol

 

[Whydon]

i voted hal and told fh i might change my vote but then i forgot

 

[DS.]

Meh idk. Like I said I'm looking forward to hearing more from Samoyed. I still think moody is a possible lynch option. I think ds's behavior last lynch was a bit odd, but not neccesariy scummy. Who are you reading right now?

Sorry odd how? I came back online and read that I had caught a few votes near deadline

 

[M2H]

You are mistaken idc about the overall content of the post at all or what reason you had for posting it. All I care about is how town you could ever have the knowledge that marth and nuxl are town and therefore would be a good target for mafia to direct discussion. Stop going off on a tangent.

Obviously I wouldn't know for sure if marth and nuxl are town unless I was mafia. I was assuming a hypothetical situation in which I would have that information, in which case my statement makes sense.

That's primarily why, at that point in the game, I felt it was a good idea to do my best to gather information on the two of them.

 

[M2H]

Sorry odd how? I came back online and read that I had caught a few votes near deadline

This:

There is no hammer day 1, so thats not a reason to suspect them. I do think voting me just for bringing up the dictator role and the subsequent shpeel about me nuxl and apricity switching the vote and how he only voted in self-preservation was kind of bizarre, but tbf he only had a few minutes to post so meh.

 

[DS.]

so just caught up with thread and ofc i have perspective but I don't really have much experience with jordan and I would have read him town, so I was wrong. DS is probably town imo, but they did hammer Jordan which is sort of scummy.

Sultan only got 9 votes for mayor which is really weird? Maybe people idled I guess. We need to be united because the mafia has powerful tools.

Whydon is looking more active which is good I hope? I really think we each need to be active in this game or we'll get steamrolled. I'm glad we have some replacements as well - I want to hear their thoughts on the game so far and I'm excited to play with Duskfall as I never have before. I think I'll reserve my opinions on them - I did previously scum read Inferno, and Vooper was just weird.

I don't think we should be sheeping people. That's never a good strategy. We need to be united, but we shouldn't follow people, lest that person be scum.

Fake news. I didnt hammer anyone, deadline hammered.

 

[DS.]

There is no hammer day 1, so thats not a reason to suspect them. I do think voting me just for bringing up the dictator role and the subsequent shpeel about me nuxl and apricity switching the vote and how he only voted in self-preservation was kind of bizarre, but tbf he only had a few minutes to post so meh.

Fwiw Ill always vote in self preservation because my alignment is 100% confirmed to me.

 

[Duskfall98]

Obviously I wouldn't know for sure if marth and nuxl are town unless I was mafia. I was assuming a hypothetical situation in which I would have that information, in which case my statement makes sense.

Do you think assuming that two random people are auto cleared page 4 is a good way to game solve? Why are you trying to solve hypothetical situations rather than the actual game we have?

Unless of course... you weren't!

 

[Samoyed]

Fake news. I didnt hammer anyone, deadline hammered.

Yeah I know I’m dumb

So now we have one of the missing votes explained.

 

[M2H]

Fwiw Ill always vote in self preservation because my alignment is 100% confirmed to me.

You weren't ever in legitimate danger of being lynched. At one point you had two votes I think? Either me or, more likely, Sultan would have been lynched if we hadn't switched the vote. Ftr I excuse you for this because you only had a few minutes to react which is why I describe it as "weird" or "bizarre" rather than scummy.

 

[DS.]

You weren't ever in legitimate danger of being lynched. At one point you had two votes I think? Either me or, more likely, Sultan would have been lynched if we hadn't switched the vote. Ftr I excuse you for this because you only had a few minutes to react which is why I describe it as "weird" or "bizarre" rather than scummy.

I thought I had three and became like a lead lynch. P sure, though i was at work so I may have not read it correctly. Lemme check

 

[M2H]

Do you think assuming that two random people are auto cleared page 4 is a good way to game solve? Why are you trying to solve hypothetical situations rather than the actual game we have?

Unless of course... you weren't!

Again, I never assumed that anybody was town.

This is the post that I made to bluedoom while we were still in RVS that I reference in the next post after DS votes me saying it came off as scummy.

Do you personally get a scum read based on the style of shitposts he made, or just the fact that he's shitposting at all.

Could you explain why noobscum makes this post in particular? I don't see my post as AI either way bc town would want to provoke conversation and get a feel for what the other members think (I'm honestly pretty satisfied with the results tbh)and mafia would benefit from shifting discussion to nuxl/bluedoom.

Others were assuming my post was ai either noobtown or scum, and I was trying to defend myself in an objective way by suggesting that either alignment could make that post. I don't think this is a scumslip as you suggest.

 

[DS.]

Official Vote Count 1.5
DS(3): Vooper (21), Apricity (389), Nuxl(394)
Sultan of Skook (2): XnadrojX (342), Moodycloud (352)
MewtwoHidden (2): Smogon Account (175), DS (359)
Inferno (1): Bluedoom (88)
Nuxl(1): Sultan of Skook (148)
XnadrojX(1): Fenrir Aesir (289)
Moodycloud(1): MewtwoHidden(369)

Not Voting: InfernoDragon, Whydon

# to hammer: N/A on Day 1
~50 minutes to DL

Yup i was leading lynch with 50 minutes and came back with like less than ten minutes to go or something so didnt have time to catch up and read fully

 

[DS.]

I voted sultan

 

[Duskfall98]

Again, I never assumed that anybody was town.

I was assuming a hypothetical situation in which I would have that information, in which case my statement makes sense.