Mega Latias [QC: 1/2]

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Mega Latias
[OVERVIEW]
*Mega Latias is a Pokémon that fits very well on to “fantasy core” style teams consisting of a fairy, dragon, and steel type that can cover each other’s weaknesses very well.
*Mega Latias can operate effectively as either a more Tailwind-oriented support Pokémon or a potent calm mind sweeper.
*A base 110 Speed puts Mega Latias in a great speed tier alongside Mega-Metagross and Gengar.
*Base 120 Defense and 150 Special Defense help to make up for Mega Latias’s mediocre 80 HP and allow it to take a lot of strong hits with little to no investment.
*Mega Latias serves as a decent check against both rain and sun teams, being resistant to most of their attacks thanks to its’ dragon typing and ability to safely set up against them.
*Mega Latias’s primary check is Tyranitar, which can easily be taken care of by its teammates.
*Mega Latias does face some competition from other tailwind setters and also has to compete for the mega slot.
[SET]
Name: Offensive Calm Mind
Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 2: Ice Beam
Move 3: Psychic/Psyshock
Move 4: Roost/Protect
Item: Latiasite
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 84 HP / 172 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
*Mega Latias excels as a Calm Mind user due to its excellent Special Defense stat and good Defense stat and access to Roost, which allow it to stay alive while boosting its stats.
*Mega Latias really appreciates some form of speed control from its partner Pokemon in order to out speed some of its faster checks such as scarf Tyranitar, Mega Gengar, and other fast threats.
*Ice Beam can OHKO Mega Salamence, Kartana, and non-bulky Landorus-T variants before any Calm Mind boosts.
*After one Calm Mind boost it is impossible for any Assault Vest Landorus-T variant to survive an Ice Beam from Latias.
*172 Special Attack is just enough to be able to OHKO 4 HP Hydreigon before it can hit Mega Latias super effectively with Draco Meteor, Dark Pulse, or even Black Hole Eclipse.
*Can almost always OHKO Amoonguss while at +1 Special Attack with either Psyshock or Psychic, depending on the set.
*Non-Life Orb Tyranitar with 252 Attack will always miss the OHKO on Mega Latias, however Mega Tyranitar does have a small chance.
*After 1 Calm Mind Boost, Latias will have a 25% chance to survive a Never-Ending Nightmare from max Special Attack Aegislash, and after 2 boosts it will be guaranteed to survive.
*Latias really appreciates both Fake Out and redirection support from the likes of Incineroar, Scrafty, or Amoonguss.
*HP Ice from Choice Specs Tapu Koko is a guaranteed 3HKO while Latias is guaranteed to KO it in two hits with Psychic or Psyshock.
*After one Calm Mind boost, Latias is guaranteed to survive a Moonblast from non-Life Orb Tapu Lele and a 93.7% chance to survive a Moonblast from Specs Tapu Fini.
*This spread will ensure that even Helping Hand boosted Overheat from max Special Attack Charizard Y in the sun will only do a maximum of 72.8% to Latias while Latias can secure a 2HKO with Psychic/Psyshock.
*After one Calm Mind boost, Latias is guaranteed to survive one Shadow Ball from max SpA Mega Gengar and can OHKO it in return with either Psyshock or Psychic.
*The added benefit of roost grounding Latias for a turn can also provide some added tech with terrain, allowing it to ground itself in either misty or electric terrain to avoid a spore from Amoonguss or to get a little bit of extra recovery in grassy terrain for a turn.
*Mega Latias works very well in a core alongside Tapu Fini and a steel type of your choice. Steel types especially help Latias against both troublesome fairy types and Tyranitar.
*Mega Latias struggles against the common LeleGross core, so you will want to have a pokemon on your team such as Celesteela or Incineroar that can come in and effectively handle that core. Incineroar also has the added benefit of providing Fake Out support and being very effective against steel types like Aegislash that would typically be very threatening to Latias.
*Stored Power can be an interesting option on Mega Latias as it can do lots of damage after a few Calm Mind boosts, but it’s usually better to just have Psychic or Psyshock because it can do more damage even before Calm Mind boosts.
 
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Apologies for the delay @Jashsmash I've realised QC has been afraid to touch this.

Analysis-wise, I think the analysis is ok as a whole, but was a bit hard to read.

I feel Mega Latias should have two separate sets: Calm Mind, and Tailwind. But, given that Mega Latias isn't common and we're nearing the World Championship, I'm ok with this either getting just a Calm Mind set or both a CM set and a TW set (the TW set would be the CM set with CM instead of TW, with different usage tips, slightly different team options, and maybe a different EV spread).

Write-up:
  • Could you please reformat the analysis to have a space between the * and text, and enters between points? e.g. like this:
* Mega Gengar has an amazing base 130 Speed, allowing it to outpace many VGC top threats such as Mega Salamence and Mega Metagross. Mega Gengar also has a Speed tie with Tapu Koko.

* Its ability Shadow Tag enables to remove weakened foes and sets Mega Gengar as a decent Perish trapper.

  • It's needed to upload the analysis later and makes it easier to read.
Overview
  • Either focus on Calm Mind instead of Tailwind, or write up an additional set with Tailwind. You place more focus on TW despite it not being mentioned in the analysis.
  • You mention Tyranitar as a counter in Overview; this should be updated to display a wider range of ways to check Latias
  • I'd remove Gengar - base Gengar isn't a relevant Pokemon
Analysis:
  • The points are out of order. You'd want to mention points about Latias' moves first, then the purpose of Latias' EVs, then Usage Tips, then Team Options
  • You need to explain why you use the moves
  • I'd recommend changing the EV spread. Hydreigon isn't metagame relevant; it's silly to have Hydreigon be the basis of the primary SpA benchmark. I'll let you decide on a spread. I'll point out Tommy Cooleen's EV spread of 244 HP / 44 Def / 28 SpA / 12 SpD / 180 Spe with a Timid nature. This outspeeds base 100s whilst always OHKOing 84 HP / 12 Def Mega Gengar with Psyshock and has a 98.4% chance to 2HKO 0 HP / 0 Def MZard Y, whilst only having a a 45.3% chance to be 2KOed by 116 Atk Incineroar. Not sure why the SpD EVs are in palce though
  • Would change the moves and move order to be like this:
Move 1: Calm Mind
Move 3: Psyshock / Psychic
Move 2: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
Move 4: Roost

  • I prefer Psyshock over Psychic with Calm Mind since it means you win 1v1 vs other Calm Mind Pokemon. Both are viable. They are STAB so they get mentioned first
  • Icy Wind can be slashed with Icy Wind for a combination of speed control and damage
  • Given Latias' solid defenses and that it's setting up CM, Roost is better for survivability than Protect. Protect is also quite rare on Mega Latias.
  • Roost does not give Latias grounded benefits (it has no side effects with Levitate) - it functions exactly like Recover. remove the point about all the grounded benefits of Roost
  • You should be more specific than simply "Steel-type partners." Mention specific ones that pair well; otherwise people may just use Probopass or other terrible Steels
 

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