A few weeks ago, I made a team that was based around Sand HO with mega T-tar and screens. I got a good amount of feedback on it and made a few updates. I feel pretty good about the team, but I wanted to follow up with the updates to see if there is anything I overlooked or missed.
This is the original team:
Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 Def / 248 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Registeel @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Protect
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Def / 212 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Rock Slide
Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 4 HP / 236 Atk / 16 Def / 36 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 24 HP / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
Serperior @ Light Clay
Ability: Contrary
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Glare
- Reflect
- Light Screen
Descriptions are on the original post if you want to see them, but with this updated version of the team I've made some substitutions.
I've replaced Registeel (which was understandably the worst member of the team) with Manaphy.
Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 116 HP / 232 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball
Manaphy is a strong set up sweeper with tail glow and has great coverage. It has great natural bulk, and water is a phenomenal typing. Behind screens Manaphy can single handedly set up and win games which is continuing with the theme of the team.
Manaphy is ran over Volcarona due to the stealth rock weakness, however if you would rather have Volcarona you can add rapid spin on Excadrill and then have a QD sweeper over tail glow Manaphy.
Manaphy is running a tail glow 3 attack set in order to hit every type for neutral damage, including Volcanion, which is a weakness for the team. Manaphy is modest for this set because it does have a good amount of bulk (especially behind screens), but it is EV'd to be 276 speed with modest, and 303 speed with timid, both are good speed tiers and can be interchangeable.
With the next member of the team, I wanted to address choice scarf Garchomp. The scarf chomp didn't make sense, so I tried to change the set, but I wasn't having much success. I decided to audible and go with a mon that can cover what Garchomp was doing but also help with another weak point of the team.
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
Landorus-T ended up being the answer to my problem. With intimidate and the flying type Landorus-T is able to cripple physical attackers and resist fighting type attacks, which the team is weak to. Landorus-T can safely set stealth rocks on a majority of the tier and has U-turn for momentum to bring in any of the set-up mons on the team.
Landorus-T is a bulky set with rocky helmet built to shut down and cripple physical attackers. With intimidate and good bulk Landorus-T can check a multitude of physical threats and can answer back with strong attacks.
I think these two changes work really well and help fix the issues with my original build for the team. I would love to hear any feedback and ideas that you all may have. If there are any other mons or sets you think would work better, please let me know, thank you all!
*Updated Team*
Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 20 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Superpower
Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 116 HP / 232 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 240 Atk / 16 Def / 36 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 24 HP / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
Serperior @ Light Clay
Ability: Contrary
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Glare
- Reflect
- Light Screen
This is the original team:
Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 8 Def / 248 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
Registeel @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Protect
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 28 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Def / 212 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Rock Slide
Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 4 HP / 236 Atk / 16 Def / 36 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 24 HP / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
Serperior @ Light Clay
Ability: Contrary
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Glare
- Reflect
- Light Screen
Descriptions are on the original post if you want to see them, but with this updated version of the team I've made some substitutions.
I've replaced Registeel (which was understandably the worst member of the team) with Manaphy.
Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 116 HP / 232 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball
Manaphy is a strong set up sweeper with tail glow and has great coverage. It has great natural bulk, and water is a phenomenal typing. Behind screens Manaphy can single handedly set up and win games which is continuing with the theme of the team.
Manaphy is ran over Volcarona due to the stealth rock weakness, however if you would rather have Volcarona you can add rapid spin on Excadrill and then have a QD sweeper over tail glow Manaphy.
Manaphy is running a tail glow 3 attack set in order to hit every type for neutral damage, including Volcanion, which is a weakness for the team. Manaphy is modest for this set because it does have a good amount of bulk (especially behind screens), but it is EV'd to be 276 speed with modest, and 303 speed with timid, both are good speed tiers and can be interchangeable.
With the next member of the team, I wanted to address choice scarf Garchomp. The scarf chomp didn't make sense, so I tried to change the set, but I wasn't having much success. I decided to audible and go with a mon that can cover what Garchomp was doing but also help with another weak point of the team.
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
Landorus-T ended up being the answer to my problem. With intimidate and the flying type Landorus-T is able to cripple physical attackers and resist fighting type attacks, which the team is weak to. Landorus-T can safely set stealth rocks on a majority of the tier and has U-turn for momentum to bring in any of the set-up mons on the team.
Landorus-T is a bulky set with rocky helmet built to shut down and cripple physical attackers. With intimidate and good bulk Landorus-T can check a multitude of physical threats and can answer back with strong attacks.
I think these two changes work really well and help fix the issues with my original build for the team. I would love to hear any feedback and ideas that you all may have. If there are any other mons or sets you think would work better, please let me know, thank you all!
*Updated Team*
Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Atk / 20 Def / 236 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Superpower
Manaphy @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 116 HP / 232 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Knock Off
Excadrill @ Air Balloon
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 240 Atk / 16 Def / 36 SpD / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide
Thundurus @ Leftovers
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 24 HP / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
Serperior @ Light Clay
Ability: Contrary
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Glare
- Reflect
- Light Screen




