Meganium (Update)

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I am taking over this update for The Cicada. The original thread is: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78474


http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/meganium


<p>Although Meganium is outclassed by Venusaur in most areas, it does have a few things going for it, namely its greater physical bulk, useful Ground-type resistance, dual screens, and Aromatherapy. Sadly, its movepool is shallow, and it has less Special Attack, a lack of secondary STAB, and no access to Sleep Powder. Despite these flaws, Meganium can still play as a useful supporter or a unexpected sweeper in place of Venusaur due to its unique traits. Just don't play Meganium like an inferior Venusaur and you'll have a capable Pokemon in your hands.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 2: Aromatherapy
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Leech Seed / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great physical bulk and access to Aromatherapy, Meganium can successfully fend off dangerous physical threats such as Azumarill, Feraligatr, and Donphan while clearing your team of status. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move on the special side, but Seed Bomb can be used instead to break the Substitutes of physically frail Pokemon such as Mismagius. Synthesis helps Meganium recover lost health, which is very useful for any supporting Pokemon. In the last slot, Leech Seed is helpful for sapping the opponent's health while restoring Meganium's own health; it can also help your switch-in regenerate some health should your opponent stay in. Toxic can be used over Leech Seed in order for Meganium to cripple Pokemon whom it would not normally threaten, such as Tangrowth, Arcanine, and Moltres.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Meganium's most common counters are hard-hitting Fire-types, so bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic make great teammates. Milotic is also the best defensive teammate to pair up with Meganium, as they can defeat most of each other's counters. Meganium is a great lure for Swellow and Scyther, so take advantage of this by using Pokemon who can set up on them, such as Rhyperior, Aggron, and Registeel. The 4 Speed EVs are just enough Speed to outpace Rhyperior before it uses Rock Polish.</p>

<p>Meganium can use Grass Knot over Energy Ball to hit heavier Pokemon such as Milotic and Rhyperior with higher Base Power, but don't expect either to be staying in on Meganium. Light Screen could be used over Aromatherapy to protect Meganium and its team from special attacks if status isn't a concern. By using Light Screen, Meganium has more chances to use Leech Seed or Toxic on foes whom it would otherwise have to switch out on.</p>

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Light Screen
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 4: Synthesis / Aromatherapy
item: Light Clay
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Meganium's sturdydefenses make it a great dual screens user, and once it has the right screen up, it will be taking minimal damage from most attacks, even super effective ones. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move to attack with, and also makes sure that Meganium is not completely shut down by Taunt. Seed Bomb is an option to hit specially bulky Pokemon for more damage. If Seed Bomb is the chosen option, an Impish nature should be used. Synthesis allows Meganium to preserve its HP throughout the match and have more chances to set up dual screens. Aromatherapy is also a good option, healing your team of status. However, Meganium's longevity is greatly affected since it will be running neither Leftovers nor Synthesis.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Grass Knot is a good option over Energy Ball to hit heavier foes, but Energy Ball is more consistent, making it the better choice in most situations. Meganium is weak to Bug-, Fire-, Ice-, and Flying-type attacks, so Pokemon who can set up on those attacks will greatly benefit from Meganium's support. For example, Dragon Dance Feraligatr and Swords Dance Blaziken are great teammates, both resisting Fire- and Ice-type attacks while the latter also resists Bug-type attacks. Rock Polish Rhyperior and Aggron also have good synergy with Meganium, and will definitely benefit from Meganium's support. Pokemon with Taunt can shut down Meganium, preventing it from performing its job, while also being able to set up in the process. Mismagius is a good example, having access to Taunt, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot, shutting down Meganium while setting up stat boosts on Meganium's rather weak attacks. Drapion can help eliminate Mismagius by switching in on a Shadow Ball and using Pursuit.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Synthesis / Substitute
move 3: Seed Bomb
move 4: Earthquake / Return
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Meganium can switch into an attack it resists, set up a Swords Dance, and smash through the opposition. However, this set plays more like a stallbreaker, as the lackluster Speed will not allow Meganium to outspeed anything other than slow walls. Swords Dance is the main focus of this set, boosting Meganium's 264 Attack to a more reasonable 528. Synthesis gives Meganium a form of instant recovery, which allows it more chances to set up Swords Dances. If you feel that Synthesis is unnecessary, then Substitute can be a valuable replacement so that Meganium can block status, which gives another opportunity to set up Swords Dance. The choice between Earthquake and Return is a tough one. Earthquake allows Meganium to hit most of its most common counters such as Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon, but Return gives it greater overall type coverage, hitting almost all Pokemon for neutral damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If another coverage move is necessary, then Meganium can forgo Synthesis or Substitute and instead use Earthquake or Return (whichever move is not being used in the last slot). Faster Fire-type Pokemon who take little damage from Meganium's attacks, such as Arcanine and Moltres, are troublesome. Meganium greatly benefits from bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic or Blastoise in order to get rid of such threats. Weezing can also counter this set well due to its great physical bulk; moreover, it can break Meganium’s Substitute with Flamethrower or burn it if it lacks Substitute. Strong Fire-type Pokemon such as Houndoom and Arcanine can help stop Weezing. Aromatherapy may be used over Substitute to heal Meganium and its teammates of status. Life Orb can be used over Leftovers for more power, but the bulk gained from Leftovers is important. The EV spread maximizes Meganium's bulk, which means that it can set up Swords Dance much more easily. 136 Speed EVs allow Meganium to reach 230 Speed, outspeeding all Pokemon with a base Speed of 60 and below. The remaining EVs are dumped into Attack for more power.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Meganium needs bulky Water-types as partners to deal with Fire-types running around in the tier. Milotic is the best Water-type for this job, due to having the best bulk out of all Water-types. Additionally, Milotic has Recover to stay alive throughout the battle, Haze to prevent the opposition from sweeping, and a resistance to Ice-type attacks. Rhyperior is also a good teammate, since it can OHKO Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon who counter Meganium, and set up Stealth Rock, which forces those Pokemon to lose a big chunk of their health each time they switch in.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Meganium could use an SubSeed set, but since Meganium has no reliable way of attacking enemy Grass-type attacks outside of Hidden Power, the idea is moot. There are several Hidden Powers that can be useful. Hidden Power Ice can be used to dent opposing Grass-types and Altaria; Hidden Power Fire can burn Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types; and Hidden Power Rock can smash Bug-, Flying-, and Fire-types. Meganium could also use a Flail set, though with all the priority attacks in the tier, it will be very easy to take Meganium out. Counter is also usable, because Meganium has a high Defense stat as well as access to Synthesis to take repeated hits and heal the damage off.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Fire-type Pokemon such as Blaziken, Houndoom, and Arcanine are great counters to Meganium. If you are using Houndoom for countering Meganium, beware of Earthquake because it will always OHKO after Stealth Rock. You also can use Poison- and Steel-type Pokemon to counter it due to their resistance to Grass-type moves. Good examples include Toxicroak, Weezing, and Registeel. Venusaur is one of the best counters to Meganium due to immunity to both Leech Seed and Toxic, while also quad-resisting Meganium’s STAB attack. Other Grass-type Pokemon such as Leafeon [space] and Tangrowth all do well thanks to their high Defense stat; Leafeon can freely set up Swords Dances and then fire off deadly Double-Edges while Tangrowth can put Meganium to sleep. Although punished by Stealth Rock, Flying-type Pokemon such as Scyther, Swellow, Moltres, and Altaria can all defeat Meganium easily.</p>
 
[OVERVIEW]
<p>Meganium has better physical bulk than Venusaur, a useful Ground-type resist, Reflect and Light Screen, and Aromatherapy.
Venusaur learns Light Screen as well.

The SD set looks a bit dodgy. Wouldn't it be better to just max Attack and Speed like Venusaur? Meganium really needs all the power it can get.
 

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Venusaur learns Light Screen as well.

The SD set looks a bit dodgy. Wouldn't it be better to just max Attack and Speed like Venusaur? Meganium really needs all the power it can get.
You're better off using Venusaur if you decide to use 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe. Meganium's perk is its better bulk, which allows it to take hits and build more Swords Dances.
 
There is no explanation of the specific EVs for the Swords Dance set.

There is no mention of Flying types as counters: Swellow, Moltres, Scyther, Altaria? Therefore Stealth Rock would be very useful for Meggy against Fire/Flying types. Team options -> Rock types... Rhyperior?
 

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Mention Pokemon that this can counter better than 'Saur (Torterra, Tangrowth, and Leafeon immediately spring to mind) while also mentioning Pokemon Venusaur does better against (Fighting-types and stat boosters, it can phaze and meganium can't). Speaking of stat boosters, Seed Bomb deserves a slash (with Impish) because it lets you break SubCM/NP missy's subs. Also, Grass Knot. That's all I can think of for now.
 

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One more quick thing, mention in the write-up that either EQ or Return can be used over Sub or Synthesis (whichever one isn't used in the final slot). You can consider this approved by me.
 

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Ok, let's go. First of all, just skimming through the write-up, I could tell this will need to be considerably rewritten. A lot of sets have clear traces of speed creeps (it says 4 Speed EVs are used for other base 80s that run no Speed, but it's actually for Rhyperior), wrong EVs (will mention it soon) and some odd explanations... Well, moving on:

If Bold and Impish are slashed on the main support set, I think that should be done on the Dual Screens set as well (and add Seed Bomb). Regarding the move choice I really don't see the merits of Toxic; and would much rather see Synthesis / Aromathreapy being slashed, in this same order, as you'll be a much better supporter (which is the main objective of this set). Mention Toxic on AC.

On the Swords Dance set, make Synthesis the main option over Substitute (the main advantage Meganium has over Venusaur is that little added bulk, and I think this should be abused). Second, I don't really know why Impish was slashed there, I'm pretty sure Flare was referring to the Support / Screens set, as he talks about adding Seed Bomb right after that. Finally, 136 Speed EVs allow you to reach 230 Speed, but Meganium only needs 220 to outspeed neutral base 60 mons (which aren't really common anyways, but at least you outspeed Aggron, who has 218 Speed); so the correct amount should be 96 EVs (unless your intention was to outspeed positive base 55 Pokes, but not many of those exist).

That's all I could find. Once you change that:

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[OVERVIEW]
<p>Meganium is outclassed by Venusaur in most areas; however it does have a few things going for it that Venusaur lacks. in its greater physical bulk than Venusaur, a useful Ground-type resistance, as well as access to dual screens, and Aromatherapy. Though it has a The most notable advantages that Venusaur has over Meganium are a worse movepool, lesser Special Attack, lack of secondary STAB, and Sleep Powder, overall, Meganium has some unique traits which prevent it from being completely outclassed by its rival, Venusaur.</p>
(make sure the overview is centred around the right Pokemon..)

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 2: Aromatherapy
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Leech Seed / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold / Impish
evs 252 HP/ 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>This is one set where you would use Meganium and not Venusaur, by taking advantage of its higher Defense stat and access to Aromatherapy, which allows you to heal any form of status off your whole team; may be hurt by, including Meganium itself which is very useful with all the status being spread around in the tier. Energy Ball is a nice, reliable STAB move, and is its only attacking move. Seed Bomb can be used over it though, to break the Substitutes of physically frailer Pokemon such as Mismagius. Synthesis increases Meganium's lifespan, which is very useful for any supporting Pokemon like Meganium. Toxic allows you to cripple bulky Waters Meganium would not normally threaten to chip away at it's HP, as well as some other Pokemon who would normally counter Meganium. Leech Seed can be used over Toxic if you want to be able to do something against Registeel and Poison-types such as Weezing and Toxicroak. The Speed EVs are to give you just enough Speed to outpace Rock Polish Rhyperior before it uses Rock Polish. (this should be its own paragraph in the AC, along with the reasoning for the rest of the EV spread =o)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Meganium's most common counters are hard-hitting Fire-types, so a bulky Water-type such as Milotic would be a great teammate. Milotic is also the best defensive team member to pair up with Meganium; Milotic has great type coverage with Meganium, while also defeating most of each other's counters. Meganium is a great lure for Swellow, so a good way to take advantage of this is by using a Pokemon who can set up on it, like Rock Polish Rhyperior, Rock Polish Aggron, and Curse Registeel.</p>

<p>
In the first slot Meganium can use Grass Knot over Energy Ball to hit heavier Pokemon like Milotic and Rhyperior with higher Base Power, but don't expect either to be staying in on Meganium. Light Screen could be useful to allow to take both physical and special attacks exceptionally well. Note that though Meganium has an advantage because it resists Ground-type attacks, Venusaur resists Fighting-type attacks, and can also phaze away set-up sweepers, so in some cases, Venusaur might be more appropriate for your team in this particular role.</p>

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Light Screen
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 4: Synthesis / Aromatherapy
item: Light Clay
nature Bold / Impish
evs 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Meganium's sturdy base defenses (80/100/100), make it a great supporter, and once it has the right screen up, it will be taking minimal damage from most attacks, and not even super effective ones. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move to attack with, and also makes sure that you are not completely shut down by Taunt. Seed Bomb is an option to hit specially bulkier Pokemon for more damage. If Seed Bomb is the chosen option, an Impish nature should be used. Synthesis allows you to further boost your bulk, giving good instant recovery, and allowing Meganium to support its team throughout the battle. Aromatherapy is also a good option, healing your team of status. However, Meganium's longevity is greatly affected since it will not be running Leftovers either. (moved)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>The EV spread maximizes its HP and Defense stat, while running 4 Speed EVs are to outrun minimum Speed base 80s. Aromatherapy can be used instead of Synthesis if you want to heal your team from status over healing yourself. (already stated) Grass Knot is a good option over Energy Ball to hit heavier foes, but Energy Ball is more consistent, making it the better choice in most situations.</p>
 

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[OVERVIEW]
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<p>Although Meganium is outclassed by Venusaur in most areas, (comma); however it does have a few things going for it, (comma) namely it in its greater physical bulk, useful Ground-type resistance, as well as access to dual screens, and Aromatherapy. Though Sadly, (comma) it has a worser movepool, less Special Attack, a lack of secondary STAB, and no access to Sleep Powder. (period) overall Despite these flaws, Meganium can still play as a useful supporter or a unexpected sweeper in place of Venusaur due to its unique traits. Just don't play Meganium like an inferior Venusaur and you'll have a capable Pokemon in your hands. has some unique traits which prevent it from being completely outclassed by its rival, Venusaur.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 2: Aromatherapy
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Leech Seed / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP(space this)/ 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>This is one set where you would use Meganium and not Venusaur, by taking advantage of its higher Defense stat and access to Aromatherapy, which allows you to heal any form of status off your whole team; very useful with all the status being spread around in the tier. With great physical bulk and access to Aromatherapy, Meganium can successfully fend off dangerous physical threats such as Azumarill, Feraligatr, and Donphan while clearing your team of status. Energy Ball is a nice, (remove comma) reliable STAB move on the special side, (comma) but Seed Bomb can be used instead over it though, (remove comma) to break the Substitutes of physically frail Pokemon such as Mismagius. Synthesis helps Meganium recover lost health increases Meganium's lifespan, which is very useful for any supporting Pokemon. On the last slot, Leech Seed is helpful for sapping the opponent's health while restoring Meganium's own health; it can also help your switch-in regenerate some health should your opponent stay in. Toxic can be used over Leech Seed allows you in order for Meganium to cripple bulky Waters Meganium Pokemon whom it would not normally threaten, such as Tangrowth, Arcanine, and Moltres. as well as some other Pokemon who would normally counter Meganium. Leech Seed can be used over Toxic if you want to be able to do something against Registeel and Poison-types such as Weezing and Toxicroak. (Leech Seed is the main fourth option.)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>Meganium's most common counters are hard-hitting Fire-types, so a bulky Water-type such as Milotic would be a great teammate. Milotic is also the best defensive teammate member to pair up with Meganium, (comma); defeating as they can defeat most of each other's counters. Meganium is a great lure for Swellow, (remove comma) and Scyther, (comma) so take advantage of this by using a Pokemon who can set up on it them, like Rhyperior, Aggron, and Registeel. The 4 Speed EVs are to give you just enough Speed to outpace Rhyperior before it uses Rock Polish.</p>

<p>Meganium can use Grass Knot over Energy Ball to hit heavier Pokemon like Milotic and Rhyperior with higher Base Power, but don't expect either to be staying in on Meganium. Light Screen could be
used over Aromatherapy to protect Meganium and its team from special attacks if status isn't a concern. By using Light Screen, Meganium has more chances to use Leech Seed or Toxic on foes whom it would otherwise have to switch out on. take both physical and special attacks exceptionally well. Note that though Meganium resists Ground-type attacks, Venusaur resists Fighting-type attacks, and can also phaze away set-up sweepers, so in some cases, Venusaur might be more appropriate for your team in this particular role. (It's Meganium.)</p>

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Light Screen
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 4: Synthesis / Aromatherapy
item: Light Clay
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>Meganium's sturdy base defenses (80/100/100), (remove comma) make it a great supporter dual screens user, and once it has the right screen up, it will be taking minimal damage from most attacks, even super effective ones. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move to attack with, and also makes sure that you are Meganium is not completely shut down by Taunt. Seed Bomb is an option to hit specially bulkier bulky Pokemon for more damage. If Seed Bomb is the chosen option, an Impish nature should be used. Synthesis allows Meganium to preserve its HP throughout the match and have more chances of setting up dual screens. allows you to further boost your bulk, (remove comma) giving good instant recovery, and allowing Meganium to support its team throughout the battle. Aromatherapy is also a good option, healing your team of status. However, Meganium's longevity is greatly affected since it will not be running Leftovers either.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>The EV spread maximizes HP and Defense, while 4 Speed EVs are to outrun minimum Speed base 80s. (Simple spread.) Grass Knot is a good option over Energy Ball to hit heavier foes, but Energy Ball is more consistent, making it the better choice in most situations. Meganium is weak to Bug-, Fire-, Ice-, and Flying-type attacks, so Pokemon who can set up on those attacks will greatly benefit from Meganium's support. For example, Dragon Dance Feraligatr and Swords Dance Blaziken are great teammates, both resisting Fire- and Ice-type attacks while the latter also resists Bug-type attacks. Rock Polish Rhyperior and Aggron also have good synergy with Meganium, and will definitely benefit from Meganium's support. Pokemon with Taunt can shut down Meganium, preventing it from performing its job, while also being able to set up in the process. Mismagius is a good example, having access to Taunt, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot, shutting down Meganium while setting up stat boosts on Meganium's rather weak attacks. Drapion can help eliminate Mismagius by switching in on a Shadow Ball and using Pursuit.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Synthesis / Substitute
move 3: Seed Bomb
move 4: Earthquake / Return
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>At first glance, Venusaur may seem to outclass this set completely, because they both have the exact same Attack and Speed stat and Venusaur has a better physical movepool. However, there is a good reason why Meganium is not completely outclassed by its rival Venusaur; one of the biggest reasons is that Meganium resists Ground-type attacks such as Earthquake, something which Venusaur lacks. (Kinda... irrelevant. Might as well say Saur outclasses Meggy due to Fighting resistance. But that's irrelevant too.) With this set, Meganium can switch into an attack it resists, set up a Swords Dance, and smash through the opposition. However, this set plays more like a stallbreaker, as the lackluster Speed will not allow Meganium to outspeed anything outside of slow walls. Swords Dance is the main idea of this set, boosting Meganium's 264 Attack into a more reasonable 528. Synthesis gives Meganium a form of instant recovery, which allows it more chances of setting up Swords Dances. If you feel that Synthesis is unnecessary, then Substitute can be a valuable replacement so that Meganium can block status, which gives another opportunity to set up Swords Dance. allows you to switch into something you scare out, set up a Substitute on a predicted switch, and proceed to use Swords Dance, or attack while sitting safely behind the Substitute. Synthesis can be useful over Substitute if you find instant recovery to be more useful than blocking status.Synthesis is also useful in setting up more Swords Dances. The choice between Earthquake and Return is a tough one. Earthquake allows you Meganium to hit most of Meganium’s its most common counters such as Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon, but Return gives you it greater overall type coverage, hitting almost all Pokemon for neutral damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>If in need of another coverage move is necessary, then Meganium can forgo Synthesis or Substitute or Aromatherapy and instead use Earthquake or Return (whichever move is not being used in the last slot). Faster Fire-type Pokemon who take little damage from Meganium's attacks, such as Arcanine and Moltres, are troublesome. Meganium greatly benefits from bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic or Blastoise in order to get rid of such threats. Weezing can also counter this set well due to its great physical bulk; (semi-colon), (remove comma) having lots of physical bulk, (remove comma) breaking moreover, (comma) it can break Meganium’s Substitute with Flamethrower or burn it if it lacks Substitute. while also being able to burn it. Having strong Fire-type Pokemon such as Houndoom and Arcanine can help stop Weezing's annoyance. Aromatherapy may be used over Substitute to heal Meganium as well as its teammates from status. Life Orb can be used over Leftovers for more power, but the bulk gained from Leftovers is important. Its The EV spread maximizes its Meganium's bulk, which means that it can set up Swords Dance much more easier. (period) is the first priority, to prevent it from being outclassed by Venusaur. More bulk means that it can set up Swords Dance much easier than Venusaur. 136 Speed EVs allow Meganium to reach 230 Speed, outspeeding all Pokemon with a base Speed of 60 and below. The remaining EVs are dumped into Attack for more power.</p>

[Team Options]
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<p>Meganium needs bulky Water-types as partners to deal with Fire-types running around in the tier. Milotic is the best Water-type for this job, due to having the best bulk out of all Water-types. (period) Additionally, Milotic has Recover to stay alive throughout the battle, Haze to prevent the opposition from sweeping, and a resistance to Ice-type attacks. in the tier, and is a pure Water-type, granting it great type synergy with Meganium. Milotic has access to Haze, preventing Pokemon from sweeping you after a couple of boosts. Milotic also has access to Recover, allowing it to stay alive throughout the entire battle. Milotic can also take Ice-type attacks for Meganium, while Meganium can take the Electric- and Grass-type attacks for Milotic. (I think this is getting way too much for Milotic.) Rhyperior is also a good teammate, being able to since it can OHKO hurt Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon who counter Meganium, and also has access to set up Stealth Rock, forcing which forces those Pokemon to lose 25% a big chunk (Because it could be 50%.) of their health each time they switch in.</p>

[Optional Changes]
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<p>Meganium could use an SubSeed set, but since Meganium has no reliable way of attacking enemy Grass-type attacks outside of Hidden Power, the idea is moot. There are several Hidden Powers that can be useful. Hidden Power Ice can be used to dent opposing Grass-types and Altaria; Hidden Power Fire can burn Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types; and Hidden Power Rock can smash Bug-, Flying-, and Fire-types. it is outclassed greatly by Venusaur. The only advantage a Subseed Meganium has over Venusaur is a Ground-type resist, and a higher Defense stat. Venusaur also outclasses Meganium due to its access to Sleep Powder and resisting Fighting-type attacks, which are very important for a Subseed set. (Venusaur is really not important here.) Meganium could also use a Flail set, though Meganium's Attack stat is too low to pull this off, (remove comma) and with all the priority attacks in the tier, it will be very easy to take Meganium out. Meganium can also use Counter is also usable, because it Meganium has a high Defense stat as well as access to Synthesis to allow it to take repeated hits and heal it the damage off.</p>

(I really don't see how Hidden Power didn't get a mention. You can already tell that Meganium's special attacking movepool is terrible, and Hidden Power helps Meganium out in that regard. I guess OC is where they should be.)

[Counters]
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<p>Fire-types such as Blaziken, Houndoom, and Arcanine are great counters to Meganium. If you are using Houndoom for countering Meganium, (comma) beware of Earthquake because it will always OHKO after Stealth Rock. If Meganium doesn't have Leech Seed, (remove comma) (Personally, I don't see how Leech Seed stops Poison/Steel Pokemon from countering Meg.) You also can use Poison- or and Steel-type Pokemon to counter it due to their Grass resistance. Good examples include Toxicroak, Weezing, and Registeel. Toxicroak can also force Meganium to switch out, allowing it to set up a free Substitute without harm. (They all do.) Venusaur is also a great one of the best counters to Meganium due to immunity to both Leech Seed and Toxic, while also quad-resisting Meganium’s STAB attack. Other Grass-type Pokemon such as Leafeon, (remove comma) and Tangrowth, (remove comma) and Torterra (This guy is almost fully walled by Meg.) all do well thanks to their high Defense stat; (semi-colon) Leafeon can freely set up Swords Dances and then fire off deadly Double-Edges while Tangrowth can put Meganium to sleep. and also is immune to Leech Seed. Although punished by Stealth Rock, Flying-type Pokemon such as Scyther, Swellow, Moltres, and Altaria can all defeat Meganium easily.</p>


I think the whole "Venusaur doesn't really outclass this set!" needs to be completely removed. QC came to the conclusion that despite being outclassed, a Pokemon should still have the set if it's capable of using it... "effectively". It's fine in the Overview, but elsewhere, the outclassed talk needs to poof.

Nice job on Dual Screens's AC though. =)

Oh, and I did those spaces because they actually seem to have to be spaced when uploaded. Just making it easier on the uploader.
 
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<p>Although Meganium is outclassed by Venusaur in most areas, it does have a few things going for it, namely its greater physical bulk, useful Ground-type resistance, dual screens, and Aromatherapy. Sadly, its movepool is shallow, and it has less Special Attack, a lack of secondary STAB, and no access to Sleep Powder. Despite these flaws, Meganium can still play as a useful supporter or a unexpected sweeper in place of Venusaur due to its unique traits. Just don't play Meganium like an inferior Venusaur and you'll have a capable Pokemon in your hands.</p>

[SET]
name: Support
move 1: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 2: Aromatherapy
move 3: Synthesis
move 4: Leech Seed / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With great physical bulk and access to Aromatherapy, Meganium can successfully fend off dangerous physical threats such as Azumarill, Feraligatr, and Donphan while clearing your team of status. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move on the special side, but Seed Bomb can be used instead to break the Substitutes of physically frail Pokemon such as Mismagius. Synthesis helps Meganium recover lost health, which is very useful for any supporting Pokemon. In the last slot, Leech Seed is helpful for sapping the opponent's health while restoring Meganium's own health; it can also help your switch-in regenerate some health should your opponent stay in. Toxic can be used over Leech Seed in order for Meganium to cripple Pokemon whom it would not normally threaten, such as Tangrowth, Arcanine, and Moltres.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Meganium's most common counters are hard-hitting Fire-types, so a bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic make great teammates. Milotic is also the best defensive teammate to pair up with Meganium, as they can defeat most of each other's counters. Meganium is a great lure for Swellow and Scyther, so take advantage of this by using Pokemon who can set up on them, such as Rhyperior, Aggron, and Registeel. The 4 Speed EVs are just enough Speed to outpace Rhyperior before it uses Rock Polish.</p>

<p>Meganium can use Grass Knot over Energy Ball to hit heavier Pokemon such as Milotic and Rhyperior with higher Base Power, but don't expect either to be staying in on Meganium. Light Screen could be used over Aromatherapy to protect Meganium and its team from special attacks if status isn't a concern. By using Light Screen, Meganium has more chances to use Leech Seed or Toxic on foes whom it would otherwise have to switch out on.</p>

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Light Screen
move 2: Reflect
move 3: Energy Ball / Seed Bomb
move 4: Synthesis / Aromatherapy
item: Light Clay
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Meganium's sturdy base defenses make it a great dual screens user, and once it has the right screen up, it will be taking minimal damage from most attacks, even super effective ones. Energy Ball is a reliable STAB move to attack with, and also makes sure that Meganium is not completely shut down by Taunt. Seed Bomb is an option to hit specially bulky Pokemon for more damage. If Seed Bomb is the chosen option, an Impish nature should be used. Synthesis allows Meganium to preserve its HP throughout the match and have more chances to set up dual screens. Aromatherapy is also a good option, healing your team of status. However, Meganium's longevity is greatly affected since it will be running neither Leftovers nor Synthesis.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Grass Knot is a good option over Energy Ball to hit heavier foes, but Energy Ball is more consistent, making it the better choice in most situations. Meganium is weak to Bug-, Fire-, Ice-, and Flying-type attacks, so Pokemon who can set up on those attacks will greatly benefit from Meganium's support. For example, Dragon Dance Feraligatr and Swords Dance Blaziken are great teammates, both resisting Fire- and Ice-type attacks while the latter also resists Bug-type attacks. Rock Polish Rhyperior and Aggron also have good synergy with Meganium, and will definitely benefit from Meganium's support. Pokemon with Taunt can shut down Meganium, preventing it from performing its job, while also being able to set up in the process. Mismagius is a good example, having access to Taunt, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot, shutting down Meganium while setting up stat boosts on Meganium's rather weak attacks. Drapion can help eliminate Mismagius by switching in on a Shadow Ball and using Pursuit.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Synthesis / Substitute
move 3: Seed Bomb
move 4: Earthquake / Return
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 160 Atk / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With this set, Meganium can switch into an attack it resists, set up a Swords Dance, and smash through the opposition. However, this set plays more like a stallbreaker, as the lackluster Speed will not allow Meganium to outspeed anything other than slow walls. Swords Dance is the main focus of this set, boosting Meganium's 264 Attack to a more reasonable 528. Synthesis gives Meganium a form of instant recovery, which allows it more chances to set up Swords Dances. If you feel that Synthesis is unnecessary, then Substitute can be a valuable replacement so that Meganium can block status, which gives another opportunity to set up Swords Dance. The choice between Earthquake and Return is a tough one. Earthquake allows Meganium to hit most of its most common counters such as Steel- and Fire-type Pokemon, but Return gives it greater overall type coverage, hitting almost all Pokemon for neutral damage.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>If another coverage move is necessary, then Meganium can forgo Synthesis or Substitute and instead use Earthquake or Return (whichever move is not being used in the last slot). Faster Fire-type Pokemon who take little damage from Meganium's attacks, such as Arcanine and Moltres, are troublesome. Meganium greatly benefits from bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic or Blastoise in order to get rid of such threats. Weezing can also counter this set well due to its great physical bulk; moreover, it can break Meganium’s Substitute with Flamethrower or burn it if it lacks Substitute. Strong Fire-type Pokemon such as Houndoom and Arcanine can help stop Weezing's annoyance. Aromatherapy may be used over Substitute to heal Meganium and its teammates of status. Life Orb can be used over Leftovers for more power, but the bulk gained from Leftovers is important. The EV spread maximizes Meganium's bulk, which means that it can set up Swords Dance much more easily. 136 Speed EVs allow Meganium to reach 230 Speed, outspeeding all Pokemon with a base Speed of 60 and below. The remaining EVs are dumped into Attack for more power.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Meganium needs bulky Water-types as partners to deal with Fire-types running around in the tier. Milotic is the best Water-type for this job, due to having the best bulk out of all Water-types. Additionally, Milotic has Recover to stay alive throughout the battle, Haze to prevent the opposition from sweeping, and a resistance to Ice-type attacks. Rhyperior is also a good teammate, since it can OHKO Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon who counter Meganium, and set up Stealth Rock, which forces those Pokemon to lose a big chunk of their health each time they switch in.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Meganium could use an SubSeed set, but since Meganium has no reliable way of attacking enemy Grass-type attacks outside of Hidden Power, the idea is moot. There are several Hidden Powers that can be useful. Hidden Power Ice can be used to dent opposing Grass-types and Altaria; Hidden Power Fire can burn Bug-, Grass-, and Steel-types; and Hidden Power Rock can smash Bug-, Flying-, and Fire-types. Meganium could also use a Flail set, though with all the priority attacks in the tier, it will be very easy to take Meganium out. Counter is also usable, because Meganium has a high Defense stat as well as access to Synthesis to take repeated hits and heal the damage off.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Fire-type Pokemon such as Blaziken, Houndoom, and Arcanine are great counters to Meganium. If you are using Houndoom for countering Meganium, beware of Earthquake because it will always OHKO after Stealth Rock. You also can use Poison- and Steel-type Pokemon to counter it due to their resistance to Grass-type moves. Good examples include Toxicroak, Weezing, and Registeel. Venusaur is one of the best counters to Meganium due to immunity to both Leech Seed and Toxic, while also quad-resisting Meganium’s STAB attack. Other Grass-type Pokemon such as Leafeon [space] and Tangrowth all do well thanks to their high Defense stat; Leafeon can freely set up Swords Dances and then fire off deadly Double-Edges while Tangrowth can put Meganium to sleep. Although punished by Stealth Rock, Flying-type Pokemon such as Scyther, Swellow, Moltres, and Altaria can all defeat Meganium easily.</p>[/QUOTE]

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<p>Meganium's most common counters are hard-hitting Fire-types, so a bulky Water-type Pokemon such as Milotic make great teammates. Milotic is also the best defensive teammate to pair up with Meganium, as they can defeat most of each other's counters. Meganium is a great lure for Swellow and Scyther, so take advantage of this by using Pokemon who can set up on them, such as Rhyperior, Aggron, and Registeel. The 4 Speed EVs are just enough Speed to outpace Rhyperior before it uses Rock Polish.</p>
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