Mesprit (Weather Support)

Analysis is finished!

Ready for GP checks. Havn't wrote a moveset in so long, it seems so short!
Approved: 2/2:
(FlareBlitz)
(Bluewind)
GP Checks: 2/2:
(Fizz)
(Flora)

Taking over this for The Cicada. His can be moved to L&O. His original thread is here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81464



http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/mesprit

[SET]
name: Weather Support
move 1: Rain Dance / Sunny Day
move 2: Psychic / Zen Headbutt
move 3: Grass Knot / Stealth Rock / U-Turn
move 4: Healing Wish
nature: Timid / Jolly
item: Damp Rock / Heat Rock
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Mesprit is a great Pokemon to set up weather for dangerous sweepers due to its decent Speed stat and good bulk. At first glance, Mesprit may seem completely outclassed by Uxie, who has a higher Speed stat along with more bulk. However, Mesprit has access to Healing Wish, while Uxie doesn’t, making Mesprit a good weather supporter. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are the most important moves of the set, as they allow Pokemon with Swift Swim and Chlorophyll to sweep much more easily. Offensively, Psychic is a good STAB move to hurt the opponent. Zen Headbutt is also a good option, since it can break Mismagius’s Substitutes and prevent it from setting up Calm Mind or Nasty Plot. Both of these moves destroy Toxicroak, a real problem for Rain Dance sweepers. Grass Knot allows Mesprit to hit Rhyperior, Lanturn, and Milotic hard. Mesprit can also provide Stealth Rock support, which can help your sweepers clean up easier. If Zen Headbutt is used, then U-Turn is also a good option, as it allows Mesprit to escape from common Taunt users, such as Alakazam, while breaking their Focus Sashes along the way. The last move is Healing Wish, which allows Mesprit to completely heal a weakened Pokemon at the cost of Mesprit's life and give that sweeper more chances to sweep through the opponent’s team.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Psychic pairs up with Grass Knot or Stealth Rock well, while U-Turn should be chosen along with Zen Headbutt. If Zen Headbutt and U-Turn are used, then Mesprit should have a Jolly nature. As a result, the Special Attack EVs should be shifted into Attack. Pokemon with the abilities Swift Swim or Chlorophyll, such as Kabutops and Qwilfish or Tangrowth and Exeggutor, are required teammates depending on the weather that is set up. Thunder is a good option if Mesprit is setting up Rain Dance, since it can hit some Water-type Pokemon harder than Grass Knot. Additionally, the chance of paralysis is welcome so that your sweepers have a chance of not being counterattacked. Dark-type Pokemon such as Absol and Spiritomb, who may use Pursuit while Mesprit is trying to escape, counter Mesprit. Having Pokemon who benefit from the weather that Mesprit has set up and resist Pursuit are helpful; Toxicroak (for rain) and Shiftry (for sun) are great examples of this.</p>
 

FlareBlitz

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Anyone who's played my rain teams know that I abused the hell out of this thing. I like your set a lot better than the previous one. The only things I'm going to mention: slash in Zen Headbutt and a Jolly nature, while slashing in U-Turn alongside Grass Knot/Stealth Rock. U-Turn is really nice to have on any weather supporter, and this avoids being an inferior Uxie because Zen Headbutt breaks subs from Moltres/Kanghaskhan/whatever. Make those changes or explain why you won't and you can consider this approved.
 
GP Check 1/2

[SET]
name: Weather Support
move 1: Rain Dance / Sunny Day
move 2: Psychic / Zen Headbutt
move 3: Grass Knot / Stealth Rock / U-Turn
move 4: Healing Wish
Nature Timid / Jolly
Item Damp Rock / Heat Rock
EVs 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Mesprit is a great Pokemon to set up weather for dangerous sweepers. It has a decent Speed stat, along with good bulk. However, At first glance, Mesprit may seem completely outclassed by Uxie, who has a higher Speed stat along with more bulk. However, Mesprit has access to Healing Wish, while Uxie doesn’t, making Mesprit a good weather supporter. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are the most important moves of the set, and allows Pokemon with Swift Swim and Chlorophyll, respectively, to sweep much more easily. Psychic is a good STAB move to hurt the opponent. Zen Headbutt is also a good option, breaking Mismagius’ Substitutes, preventing it from setting up Calm Mind or Nasty Plot on Mesprit. Both of those moves destroy Toxicroak, a real problem for Rain Dance sweepers. Grass Knot allows you to hit Rhyperior, Lanturn, and Milotic hard. If the team needs Stealth Rock support, then Mesprit can also provide it. If Zen Headbutt is used, U-Turn is also a good option, allowing you to escape from common Taunt users such as Alakazam, breaking their Focus Sash along the way. The last move is Healing Wish, which allows you to completely heal a weakened Pokemon, allowing for more chances to sweep the opponent’s team. Note that Healing Wish should only be used when Mesprit is at low HP.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Psychic pairs up with Grass Knot or Stealth Rock well, while U-Turn should be chosen along with Zen Headbutt. If Zen Headbutt and U-Turn are used, then Mesprit should have a Jolly nature. The Special Attack EVs should be shifted into Attack. Pokemon with the abilities Swift Swim or Chlorophyll are required teammates depending on the weather that is set up, preventing Mesprit’s hard work from going to a waste. Thunder is a good option if Mesprit is setting up Rain Dance, hitting some Water-type Pokemon harder. The chance of paralysis is also welcome. Dark-type Pokemon such as Absol and Spiritomb, who may use Pursuit while Mesprit is trying to escape, counter Mesprit, hurting Mesprit greatly. Therefore, Wish support is helpful, allowing Mesprit and other hurt sweepers to set up weather and deal more damage, respectively. [I don't really understand this part; if Mesprit is Pursuited, it's probably dead. What's the point of Wish support?]</p>


Good work.

 

Flora

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GP Check 2/2:
additions/changes in blue
removals in red
comments in navy

[SET]
name: Weather Support
move 1: Rain Dance / Sunny Day
move 2: Psychic / Zen Headbutt
move 3: Grass Knot / Stealth Rock / U-Turn
move 4: Healing Wish
nature: Timid / Jolly
item: Damp Rock / Heat Rock
evs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Mesprit is a great Pokemon to set up weather for dangerous sweepers due to its decent Speed stat and good bulk. It has a decent Speed stat, along with good bulk. At first glance, Mesprit may seem completely outclassed by Uxie, who has a higher Speed stat along with more bulk. However, Mesprit has access to Healing Wish, while Uxie doesn’t, making Mesprit a good weather supporter. Rain Dance and Sunny Day are the most important moves of the set, and as they allow Pokemon with Swift Swim and Chlorophyll, (remove comma) respectively, (remove comma) to sweep much more easily. Offensively, (comma) Psychic is a good STAB move to hurt the opponent. Zen Headbutt is also a good option, breaking since it can break Mismagius’s Substitutes, (remove comma) preventing and prevent it from setting up Calm Mind or Nasty Plot on Mesprit. Both of those these moves destroy Toxicroak, a real problem for Rain Dance sweepers. Grass Knot allows you Mesprit to hit Rhyperior, Lanturn, and Milotic hard. If the team needs Stealth Rock support, then Mesprit can also provide it. Mesprit can also provide Stealth Rock support, which can help your sweepers clean up easier. If Zen Headbutt is used, then U-Turn is also a good option, allowing you as it allows Mesprit to escape from common Taunt users, (comma) such as Alakazam, while breaking their Focus Sashes along the way. The last move is Healing Wish, which allows you Mesprit to completely heal a weakened Pokemon at the cost of Mesprit's life, (remove comma) allowing for and give that sweeper more chances to sweep through the opponent’s team. Note that Healing Wish should only be used when Mesprit is at low HP. (I disagree. You should use Healing Wish whenever your team's getting in trouble, despite what Mesprit's HP may be at and especially at times when Mesprit can't really do anything else except get your weather sweeper out safely.)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Psychic pairs up with Grass Knot or Stealth Rock well, while U-Turn should be chosen along with Zen Headbutt. If Zen Headbutt and U-Turn are used, then Mesprit should have a Jolly nature. As a result, (comma) the Special Attack EVs should be shifted into Attack. Pokemon with the abilities Swift Swim or Chlorophyll, (comma) such as Kabutops and Qwilfish or Tangrowth and Exeggutor, (comma) are required teammates depending on the weather that is set up, preventing Mesprit’s hard work from going to waste. Thunder is a good option if Mesprit is setting up Rain Dance, hitting since it can hit some Water-type Pokemon harder than Grass Knot. Additionally, (comma) the chance of paralysis is also welcome so that your sweepers have a chance of not being counterattacked. Dark-type Pokemon such as Absol and Spiritomb, who may use Pursuit while Mesprit is trying to escape, counter Mesprit. Having Pokemon who benefit from the weather that Mesprit has set up and resist Pursuit are helpful; Toxicroak (for rain) and Shiftry (for sun) are great examples of this. Therefore, Wish support is helpful, allowing Mesprit and other hurt sweepers to set up weather and deal more damage, respectively. (I honestly do not know where I would fit Wish in a fully offensive weather team. Should just switch to a resistance. It's not like you can counter Pursuit too.)</p>


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OK, couple of things. First, thanks for pushing this through QC and GP.

Second: be sure to leave a space between SET COMMENTS and ADDITIONAL COMMENTS next time. Like so:

[SET COMMENTS]
(space)
blah,blah

Third: Shiny Azelf, I realize that English may not be you're first language, but can you promise me that when making these GP changes, that you really try to understand why the GPers are making the changes they are, and not just doing them blindly. If you want to become a better writer, you have to understand why the GPers are making the changes they are. I honestly haven't seen any improvement in your writing skills in the past 2 months which is why I'm saying this.

So, for you're next analysis, when it's GP checked, I want you to really study and ask questions, if you have any, as to why the changes are the way the are; as opposed to just blindly making the changes.

Anywho, uploading.
 

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