Pet Mod MicroMetaMafia (Night 2)

(using the gen 3 type images because i think they look alot nicer, also these are all WIP and might not even work as wallbreakers soooo)
:ss/eelektross:
Pokemon: Eelektross
Typing:
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Ability: Malware*
Stats: 85 | 105 | 80 | 80 | 95 | 55 (510 BST)
Movepool Additions: Recover, Zing Zap, Earthquake
Movepool Removals: Crunch, Throat Chop, Superpower, U-Turn, Volt Switch
Custom Elements: Malware: Intimidate clone for speed
Role: Physical Wallbreaker

:ss/dragapult:
Pokemon: Dragapult
Typing:
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Ability: Power Spot* | Infiltrator | Clear Body (HA)
Stats: 105 | 70 | 60 | 110 | 75 | 90 (510 BST)
Movepool Additions: Flash Cannon, Revelation Dance
Movepool Removals: Reflect, Light Screen, Thunder Wave, Dragon Dance, Fire Blast, Draco Meteor
Custom Elements: Power Spot: This Pokemon's and its allies' moves have 1.3x power. (aka now affects base pokemon as well, just like in CS2)
Role: Special Wallbreaker
 
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Gravity Monkey

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:ss/delcatty:
Pokemon: Delcatty
Roles: Physical Wallbreaker
Typing:

Ability: Normalize
Stats: 70 / 120 / 95 / 55 / 75 / 65 [BST: 480]
Additions: Swords Dance, Power Whip, Knock Off
Removals:
Justification: Vote for Nate

:ss/togekiss:
Pokemon: Togekiss
Roles: Special Wallbreaker, Sweeper
Typing:

Ability: Speed Boost / Super Luck
Stats: 85 / 50 / 65 / 50 / 105 / 10 [BST: 365]
Additions: Geomancy
Removals: Air Slash
Justification: Just vote for Nate please
 
Pokemon: Sylveon
Roles: Specs Wallbreaker, Special Wallbreaker
Type: Fairy
Abilities: Cute Charm/Pixilate
95/65/65/110/105/85 (Total: 525)
Added Moves: Psychic
Removed Moves: Wish, Heal Bell
Justification: Breaker Sylveon, where your only concern is using Hyper Voice to knock down your enemies. Go with Specs or use Calm Mind to break down walls. Coverage includes Psychic, Mystical Fire, and Shadow Ball, but your STAB is your friend in most cases. Outpaces the current walls but is outsped by the pivots. Doesn't deviate too much from the vanilla breaker Sylveon kit, but drops Wish and Heal Bell to strongly solidify its role as a breaker.

Pokemon: Empoleon
Roles: Physical Wallbreaker, Priority (Aqua Jet)
Type: Water/Steel
Abilities: Torrent/Defiant
Stats: 84/116/88/81/91/70 (Total: 530)
New Moves: Iron Head
Removed Moves: Stealth Rock
Justification: Empoleon has a pretty good physical pool, so I figured I would use that to my advantage to create a wallbreaker. With reliable STABs, good physical coverage (Knock, EQ, Rock Slide, and more if you need something more specific), priority, and Swords Dance, you'll be able to take on walls rather easily. Defiant can also be paired with a hazard setter to deter Defog removal, but I removed Stealth Rock from Empoleon so as to avoid it being the setter.
 
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Pokemon: Swanna :Swanna:
Roles: Choice Band User, Substitute Attacker
Type:

Ability: Graceful Wings / Big Pecks (Hydration)
Stats:
75/117/63/87/63/98(507, regular Swanna base stats but +30 to attack)
New Moves: Zen Headbutt
Removed Moves: Hurricane, Ice Beam, Scald
Custom Elements: Graceful Wings (rock head clone)
Justification: Not much going on round here. Brave bird + liquidation + aqua jet + zen headbutt CB user, or sub roost stabs. Just vote for Nate/Gravity tbh. Enjoy!


Pokemon: Sunflora :Sunflora:
Roles: Choice Specs User
Type:

Ability: Tinted Lens
Stats:
75/75/85/130/85/40 (490)
New Moves: Flamethrower, Fire Blast
Removed Moves: None
Custom Elements: None
Justification: Not much here either. Gave it fire coverage to help out hit steels, and tinted lens helps as well. Tinted lens specs petal dance is kinda dope, but you lock into the move and it has horrible speed and subpar defenses. Could be really threatening under trick room/webs, or if it gets in on the right pokemon. Vote for Nate/Gravity. Enjoy!
 
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:swsh/magcargo:
Pokemon: Magcargo
Role(s): Bulky Physical Wallbreaker
Type: Fire / Water
Abilities: Magic Bounce
Stats: 81 / 99 / 72 / 65 / 77 / 30 (BST: 424)
New Moves: Fire Lash, Liquid Nitrogen Cannon*, Parting Shot, Agility
Removed Moves: Shell Smash, Earthquake
Custom Elements:
Liquid Nitrogen Cannon - Water-type Physical Steel Beam clone
Justification: Big Damage Move Go Bonk

:swsh/jellicent:
Pokemon: Jellicent
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Status Spreader
Type: Water / Ghost
Abilities: Serene Grace / Storm Drain / Berserk
Stats: 100 / 72 / 84 / 113 / 91 / 57
New Moves: Calm Mind, Nuzzle
Removed Moves: None
Custom Elements: None
Justification: Jellicent can spread Toxic Poison, Burn, or Paralysis as it pleases, and hits statused opponents extremely hard with STAB Hex. A more traditional wallbreaker set can use Shadow Ball, Hydro Pump, and Calm Mind. Recovery options vary between Recover (for consistency and on sets with Will-O-Wisp) and Strength Sap (often higher healing but less consistent, should not be run with Will-O-Wisp).
 
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Cookie Butter

formerly the someone
:ss/crabominable:
Name of the Pokemon: Crabominable
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker, Priority Abuser
Type: Ice / Fighting
Abilities: Iron Fist / Rattled
Stat Distribution: 100/135/80/65/70/45 (495)
Movepool Additions: Ice Shard, Knock Off
Movepool Removals: Close Combat
Justification: Mostly just regular Crabominable with movepool changes and stats rounded up to the nearest multiple of 5. Kinda based on Machamp also, but with secondary Ice STAB to beat Flying-types (which is huge), and with a lower damage boost from ability, no Burn Attack drop/Toxic/Paralysis immunity, no Close Combat, stinkier defensive type & its priority doesn't get boosted by ability.
:ss/clawitzer:
Name of the Pokemon: Clawitzer
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker
Type: Water/Fairy
Abilities: Mega Launcher
Stat Distribution: 70/70/80/110/80/85 (495)
Movepool Additions: Strange Steam
Movepool Removals: Hydro Pump, Aura Sphere, Focus Blast
Justification: Clawitzer with lower bulk and SpA, but faster and part Fairy. Also forced to run Water Pulse because that's cooler, and no coverage against Steels. Water/Fairy is an insanely good new typing all around, so overall lower damage output is to make it balanced.
 
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:ss/marowak-alola:
Name of the Pokemon: Marowak-Alola (incompatible w/ Thick Club)
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker
Type: Fire / Dark
Abilities: Vengeance
Stat Distribution: 70 / 90 / 105 / 70 / 80 / 85 (500 BST)
Movepool Additions: Shadow Bone, Recover
Movepool Removals: Poltergeist, Flame Charge, Knock Off
Custom Elements: Vengeance - Berserk clone for Attack, Shadow Bone is now a Dark-type move
Justification: Use your decent bulk to sponge a hit or two, then as soon as your health drops, let loose boosted Flare Blitzes (be wary of recoil, though!) and Shadow Bones. Beats Parasect and Golbat, loses to Dragonair.

:ss/cursola:
Name of the Pokemon: Cursola
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Stealth Rock
Type: Ghost / Water
Abilities: Mold Breaker / Adaptability / Perish Body (HA)
Stat Distribution: 75 / 75 / 60 / 110 / 105 / 90 (515 BST)
Movepool Additions: N/A
Movepool Removals: Calm Mind, Ice Beam, Burning Jealousy, Will-O-Wisp, Meteor Beam, Strength Sap
Custom Elements: N/A
Justification: What it does is fairly simple - it hits hard and it (most of the time at least) hits first. Adaptability Hydro Pump / Shadow Ball certainly will hurt, and it has Earth Power in case that doesn't make do. Can also fit Stealth Rock too, providing some utility to its team in addition to its raw power. That said, low physical bulk with no way to mitigate it balances the strengths out. Beats Golbat and Venomoth, and loses against Dragonair and Parasect.

As much as confirmed townies will likely win, I want to put in some genuine effort for these subs which is why I won't be saying "just vote x" in my posts here.
 
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Special Wallbreaker
:ss/octillery:

Name of the Pokemon
:Octillery
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker
Type:Water
Abilities:Suction Cups/Sniper(Illuminate)
Stat Distribution:75/85/75/110/65/75
Movepool Additions:Snipe Shot
Justification:(Mostly?)Filler
Physical Wallbreaker
:ss/miltank:

Name of the Pokemon
:Miltank
Role(s):Physical Wallbreaker
Type:Normal
Abilities:Scrappy/Thick Fat(Sap Sipper)
Stat Distribution:95/105/80/40/70/100
Movepool Additions:Glitzer Popping
Glitzer Popping:Calls 2 to 5 random moves(excluding ones that cannot be called by Metronome).All moves retain their usual Accuracy,and if any "hit" misses or is blocked,the move stops(similar to Triple Axel)
Justification:Please just vote for confirmed town.
 
Name of Pokemon: Grimmsnarl
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker
Type: Fairy/Dark
Abilities: Mold Breaker/Frisk/(Pickpocket)
Stat Distribution: 95/120/75/85/75/85 (535)
Movepool Additions: None
Movepool Removals: Thunder Punch, Ice Punch
Custom Elements: None
Justification: Loses to Venomoth but deals pretty well with a lot of other stuff due to Bulk Up/Band

Name of Pokemon: Ampharos
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker
Type: Electric/Fighting
Abilities: Dazzling/(Natural Cure)
Stat Distribution: 90/75/85/120/95/75 (540)
Movepool Additions: Calm Mind
Movepool Removals: None
Justification: Beats Steels, sets up with CM, rocks with special moves
 
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Special
:ss/oranguru:
Pokemon: Oranguru
Role: Special Wallbreaker, Status Target
Typing:

Ability: Inner Focus / Special Guts [HA]
Stats: 80 / 60 / 70 / 110 / 90 / 80 [490 BST]
Movepool Additions:
Movepool Removals:
Nasty Plot, Calm Mind
Custom Elements: Special Guts - Guts but its Special
Description: I made this in like 10 mins

Physical
:ss/seismitoad:
Pokemon: Seismitoad
Role: Physical Wallbreaker, Knock Off Utility
Typing:

Ability: Poison Touch / Primordial Sea [HA]
Stats: 105/100/75/85/75/74 [514 BST]
Movepool Additions:
Movepool Removals:
All Fighting and Poison Attacks
Custom Elements:
Description:
I made this in like 10 mins, hits hard but doesn't like Parasect. Also, why pSea? Blame Cookie lmao
 
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Mossy Sandwich

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:dp/vigoroth:
Name of the Pokemon: Vigoroth (Not eviolite compatible)
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker, Choice Scarf
Type: Dark
Abilities: Gorilla Tactics
Stat Distribution: 80/80/100/50/100/80 (490 BST)
Movepool Additions: Knock Off, Throat Chop
Movepool Removals: Gunk Shot, Sucker Punch
Justification: MONKEEEEE well more like sloth. Whatever, hits hard with Gtactics, has stab Knock which is good utility, but power is a bit lacking once it already removed an item so it may want to use Throat Chop sometimes. It has Hammer Arm for some dark resists but lacks anything good to hit fairies so it'll struggle against those. Most people will vote for confirms anyway tbh so it doesn't really matter what I put here.


:dp/wailord:
Name of the Pokemon: Wailord
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Special Tank
Type: Water/Flying
Abilities: Aerilate/Pressure/(Oblivious)
Stat Distribution: 170/40/75/100/75/60 (530 BST)
Movepool Additions: Deep Breath*
Movepool Removals: None
Custom Elements: Deep Breath: Calm Mind clone that boosts defense instead of special defense.
Justification: He THICC. Bulk is quite high, but it lacks recovery so it's just gonna act as a tank that can switch-in easily and use pretty powerful Aerilate Hyper Voices and Water moves.
Edit: Added Deep Breath so yeah it can use setup to break now too ig.
 
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Name of the Pokemon: Goodra
Role(s): Special Wallbreaker, Specs User, Scarf User
Type: Water/Fairy
Abilities: Sap Sipper | Poison Point
Stat Distribution: 80/70/65/105/70/80
Movepool Additions: Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast
Movepool Removals: All Dragon Moves, Earthquake, Fire Punch, Power Whip, Iron Tail, Superpower, Thunder Punch
Justification: Water/Fairy attacker, doesn't switch into anything, but can bull over if it gets in at the right time.

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Name of the Pokemon: Sandaconda
Role(s): Physical Wallbreaker, Setup (Coil, Swords Dance)
Type: Ground/Dark
Abilities: Mold Breaker, Sand Force | Sand Spit
Stat Distribution: 72/110/100/65/80/71
Movepool Additions: Crunch, Knock Off, Swords Dance
Movepool Removals: None
Justification: Krookodile but a snake, sets up SD and starts pressing buttons, or just comes in, clicks knock, then leaves
 

DuoM2

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Pokemon: Abomasnow
Roles: Physical Wallbreaker
Typing:
Ice
Ability: Technician / --- / Soundproof
Stats: 90/110/90/60/90/60 (500)
Movepool Changes: +Icicle Crash, -Earthquake, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Aurora Veil, Avalanche
Justification: Slow Ice-types haven't worked in the past, so this has Technician Ice Shard to try and boost that, even if the problems of being a slow Ice-type still hold true here. This meta kind of lacks Ice resists as it stands but should do better once a proper one gets added. Also, just so you all know, this DOES NOT get Triple Axel, but it does get Icicle Spear, which will be its main draw offensively otherwise.

Pokemon: Alcremie
Roles: Special Wallbreaker
Typing:
Fairy
Ability: Sweet Veil / Aroma Veil / Misty Surge
Stats: 60/60/130/90/130/40 (510)
Movepool Changes: +Moonblast, Aura Sphere, -Psychic, Psyshock, Stored Power, Draining Kiss, Recover
Justification: Slow, bulky breaker that struggles pretty hard with Golbat. Made sure to get rid of all of its healing moves so it can't be used as a flat-out wall. Gave it Moonblast too because it's a crime that it doesn't learn that already. Please just vote for Nate, or at least someone who's 99% safe by this point. You know who they are.

EDIT: Removed Avalanche. There was some concern about Technician boosting it even when its power doubled from its secondary effect even though I highly doubt that's how it works. Likely doesn't matter though.
 
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Pokemon: Mismagius
Roles: special wallbreaker, stallbreaker, status spreader, choice specs, offensive trick room
Type: Ghost
Ability: No Guard / Cursed Body / Levitate
Stats: 98/56/111/116/111/36 (BST: 528)
Movepool:
-Calm Mind, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, all notable special moves besides Hex, Zap Cannon
Description: Mismagius is more of an unorthodox breaker, reliant upon spreading burn with no guard Inferno, before finishing the opponent off with a boosted Hex. Mismagius is a speed floor for the meta, and its solid bulk allows it to either act as the status spreader, or even as an offensive trick room setter. Of course, it being so slow means it is outsped and hit super effectively by Golbat and Parasect, and it lacks any recovery options. it loses out on calm mind and nasty plot because of its increased defenses.


Pokemon: Vespiquen
Roles: phyiscal wallbreaker, choice band/scarf, pirority, hazard removal (defog), hazard setter (toxic spikes)
Type: Bug/Flying
Ability: Regality* / Honey Gather
Stats: 75/82/104/60/104/90 (BST: 515)
Movepool:
+First Impression, Swords Dance
-U-Turn
Custom Elements: Regality- Pecking Order from feuu ; on switch in drops opponent's defense by 1 stage.
Description: hey remember that feru sub i made last slate? imagine that but with worse offensive stats but with first impression. its a bug/flying so boots or good hazard control is a requirement, but it should be able to put a heavy dent into some walls with fimp + defense drop. it can swords dance but watch out for rock types that can hit it for 4x effectiveness.

edit: added better description for regality
 
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zxgzxg

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And subs are closed! Paulluxx and Moretto did not sub, so this is their warning.

Lynch voting is now open! Vote for the user you want eliminated! This will be open for 36 hours or so.
 

Mossy Sandwich

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NeonNitroGlycerin

We need to learn what happened with the votes last time and neon is our best lead. If he is wooloo like he says, it's a role that we can afford to sacrifice and it also tells us that the person with the ability to mess with votes is trying to frame town. If he's mafia or neutral, we learn which faction has the ability. We get info either way and, if it is a neutral role doing this, then I think they're a far bigger immediate threat than mafia, which is why I think we should try to figure out who is messing with the votes.


Moretto
 
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NeonNitroGlycerin

man i dont know
i dont really like my subs this slate, and im just as confused as to what happened with the votes as everyone else. I now understand why wooloo is a weak claim (although at the time my small brain did not), but at least my death will confirm that Mafia have an active investigator (because Ana knew about basic townie role being Wooloo before I said anything).
I'm guessing the vote manipulator is Neutral, or if they're mafia, have to boost town/neutral submissions. (That would actually be a really interesting role, where they can only boost Town subs but can use it to spread chaos.) This whole thing has been kinda fucked up, but I hope that Golbat proves to be a healthy addition to the metagame.


MORETTO

With 2 dead confirmed mafia, it becomes a lot easier to determine prompts. Moretto happens to match a very large number of the prompts we've thought of. We learned from short format to vote out the obvious saboteurs, so here goes!

(i still dont like my subs this slate, please dont vote for my subs at all this slate)
 
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Cookie Butter

formerly the someone
Moretto

I didn't want to accuse anyone before figuring out this slate's prompts, but a mafia member is leading vote discussion, so he forced my hand.
We have 2 confirmed dead mafia. We can look at their submissions from last slate, figure out their prompts, and lynch the last 3 mafia. I looked and...
Defensive pivot:
105+ Attack or Special Attack AND 90+ Speed (anaconja, Ema, Mossy, Moretto)
Almost Any Ability banlist ability (anaconja, Ema, Mossy, Moretto)
??? (5th mafia)
Offensive pivot:
??? (anaconja, 5th mafia)
Below 80 Speed (anaconja, Ema, Mossy, Moretto,)
Viable set-up move for higher offensive stat (Ema, Mossy, Moretto)

I have a guess as to who 5th mafia is and what the other prompts are, but we can't lynch 2 mafia in 1 round, and I fear Mafia Disguiser/Bodyguard shenanigans or some Neutral role interfering (unfortunately I already said I suspect Moretto, but he skipped this slate, so we can't lynch them either). Also, Low-Key (/Duo) could be 5th mafia still, we can't compare their slate 1 subs because there weren't any.

Even if my proposed slate 1 prompts are wrong, Mossy's slate 2 subs are still suspicious. His physical wallbreaker Vigoroth seems more like a strong revenge killer than a wallbreaker. His special wallbreaker Wailord is more normal, but it has 170/75/75 (the equivalent of 110/110/110) bulk. Our walls only have 75/110/70 and 90/70/100 bulk, so Wailord seems excessive. Maybe it's a Stallbreaker prompt with Pressure PP stall, or simply a "crazy high bulk" prompt, not sure.

As I see it, Mossy is leading discussion to 1. avoid mafia getting lynched and 2. lynching a town member. Mossy also tried to lead discussion by suggesting town to abstain beforehand.

Neon DID win in a strange way last round, but the quality of his subs was normal in both slates. He could be some neutral role, but we can investigate or lynch him AFTER we lynch mafia.

If anyone disagrees, I ask you to please propose different prompts (based on anaconja's and Ema's slate 1 subs) or abstain from voting. Also, reminder you can edit votes if you've already voted.

EDIT: Mossy and Moretto fit the same prompts (AKA their subs are bad for the same reasons) so I'm changing my vote.
 
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Mossy Sandwich

Between Cookie's theory and the general behavior of Mossy Sandwich (presenting theories to try and discredit Cookie as innocent when the likelihood of that is exceedingly low), this is my personal course of action I've decided on.

Also, I have a crazy theory on Neon being a jester, which while probably unfounded, is below for posterity's sake:

- N0 Mafia does an investigation, finds a Wooloo, gains a safe claim for some of their ranks
- D1 Mafia claims Wooloo, Neon piggybacks and claims Wooloo as well
- D1 Neon gets votes given to him by an as of yet unknown source (assumes this was not a mafia source), confusion is caused
- N1 Mafia invests Neon to figure out what happened (in their mind, perhaps a town role that moves votes to itself?)
- D2 Investigation returns with Neon as Jester, but Anaconja ends up dead and Ema is outed
- D2 Weakened Mafia strikes a deal with Neon to get him lynched in exchange for help taking down town


Abstain

Things are crazy at the moment, so I'll sit on this for now.
 
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Cookie Butter

formerly the someone
NeonNitroGlycerin

Some death chat logs:

Ana:
3 confirmed towns and easy way for more to confirm themselves and we get what
bounceable ice grass/bug and consig
insane
Tapler: “haha give prompt”
Ana: pranked dude can even say theyre pranked
Tapler: 10/10 role
Ana: its ridiculous
Tapler: lmao
Ana:
next iteration they better buff mafia
but only if im in again
not to mention i was basically micromanaging everything now im gone
Tapler: :thinking: (responding to the first message)
Ana: yes mossy got pranked
Tapler: AH ic

I don't think mossy is maf.
If Mossy got pranked and the target COULD SAY they got pranked (before the role got buffed), why didn't he say anything until anaconja was dead? Maybe because he's mafia, and he didn't want to reveal his mafia buddy's ability?? Remember, the only reason he was the target of a prank in the first place was because he got transported with G-Luke. It would be pretty important for town to say they got pranked to the rest of town if they could, don't you think??
This is pretty much hard confirmation of Mossy being mafia.
 

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