General rules on entering a tournament.
approved by Sonuis
Mirror Match Tournament
The deadline for posting teams has passed and several players have been subbed out. In future rounds not posting your team on time will count as your opponent winning that match. For this round, post it as soon as you are able, and if you have not already done so contat your opponent immediatly and arrange a time to play your matches.
The deadline for matches this round is the 2nd of May (Midnight, GMT). You may play matches as soon as you are able.
Extensions will only be granted in highly exceptional circumstances, "we got in contact a couple of days before the deadline and could not get a good time arranged" does not cut it.
Accompanying Stark thread for discussion of strategies and the concept.
approved by Sonuis
Mirror Match Tournament
This tournament is designed to remove three large parts of the game, in order to examine in detail one aspect of competitive Pokemon: Skill. This will be achieved by making sure that each player is always using the same team as their opponent.
Here is what is removed:
Rules:
In short:
Rules in detail:
Each pairing will have three matches, the player with the most wins will go through. If one player wins the first two matches you are not required to play the third.
Each match will take place with a different team. One will be with a team of your design, one will be with a team made by your opponent and one with a team which I (or a guest team builder) will make and post in the OP of each round.
Your team may use any Pokemon (including Ubers) at any level, it may break the species clause, it may include Pokemon with OHKO moves, Evasion boosting moves, or any other move. The team may not contain illegal movesets, EV spreads (Watch out for Arceus, it may not have more than 100 EVs per stat.) or anything else that is not possible in game. All shoddy clauses other than Timed Battle, Self KO Clause, and Sleep Clause, which must be on, and Random Battle, which must be off, are at the discretion of the team builder. If all Pokemon of a species have different nicknames in the team builder's team, both teams must use different names for all Pokemon of that species. If the team builder uses same nicknames for a species, both players should use same nicknames for that species. Otherwise feel free to change nicknames, it will make the log more readable.
I want you guys to have to think about this. Battles decided by who can be bothered to wait through an extreme PP stall or a near instant/unavoidable coin flip are uninteresting. Restrictions I will impose on team building are:
If you are unsure about an opponent's team, contact me before playing them. Logs will be required if a battle is disputed, be sure to save them. There is no need to PM me logs so please don't unless you have good reason, you may post logs in the current round's thread if you wish.
When you have made your team for a round use Shoddy Battle's Export to text feature (Tools -> Export to text) and post it in this thread (you must specify any non-31-all IV spread or non-Lv. 100 Pokemon since export to text misses these. Hidden Power users, LC players, and legends beware) then PM, VM or otherwise contact your opponent with a link to your post (can be found by clicking the number in the upper right of each post). Once you have posted your team you may not edit it or the post which contains post in any way.
When reconstructing a team made by another player double check everything. If you make a mistake you will be disqualified unless your opponent decides to allow a rebattle (it is entirely their choice, do not try to pressure them). Any intentional changing of teams to make the matchup not even will result in you being instantly disqualified and banned from entering tournaments. Don't risk it.
The player who made the team should select the clauses and send the challenge. Unless otherwise agreed the team made by the player listed first in the match pairings should be used first, followed by the team made by me or a guest team builder, followed by the team made by the player listed second.
For example:
Player A Vs Player B
Players A's team would be used first, then the team which everyone uses, then Player B's team.
This order is not strictly enforced, if players chose together to do the battles in another order (e.g. because not all teams are ready) it is perfectly acceptable.
There are no rules against collaborating on a team or strategy with other players, please do. Despite there being no direct advantage from team knowledge, scouting opponent's matches to gauge their playstyle is forbidden.
Final decisions on rules and clarifications will be made by me, or in cases that involve my matches by Sonuis or another Tournament Director.
Here is what is removed:
- There is no need to build a "good" team, your opponent will always start with whatever you do. You may try building a team which you will be more comfortable with than your opponent, but will not have a material advantage.
- You will not be guessing about your opponent's team during the battle, you will know exactly what choices they have and may make your moves accordingly. This lack of uncertainty allows for much more long term planing.
- There will never be an uneven team matchup, which often makes a match one sided despite even skill levels and effort put into team building.
Rules:
In short:
- In each match you will be using the same team as your opponent.
- Each pairing will play three games, one with a team made by each player and one made by me or a guest team builder.
- The team builder will set clauses for battles using their team (timed battle and sleep clause must be on). All teams will be posted in the current round's thread.
Rules in detail:
Each pairing will have three matches, the player with the most wins will go through. If one player wins the first two matches you are not required to play the third.
Each match will take place with a different team. One will be with a team of your design, one will be with a team made by your opponent and one with a team which I (or a guest team builder) will make and post in the OP of each round.
Your team may use any Pokemon (including Ubers) at any level, it may break the species clause, it may include Pokemon with OHKO moves, Evasion boosting moves, or any other move. The team may not contain illegal movesets, EV spreads (Watch out for Arceus, it may not have more than 100 EVs per stat.) or anything else that is not possible in game. All shoddy clauses other than Timed Battle, Self KO Clause, and Sleep Clause, which must be on, and Random Battle, which must be off, are at the discretion of the team builder. If all Pokemon of a species have different nicknames in the team builder's team, both teams must use different names for all Pokemon of that species. If the team builder uses same nicknames for a species, both players should use same nicknames for that species. Otherwise feel free to change nicknames, it will make the log more readable.
I want you guys to have to think about this. Battles decided by who can be bothered to wait through an extreme PP stall or a near instant/unavoidable coin flip are uninteresting. Restrictions I will impose on team building are:
- If a team is specifically designed for endless or near endless stall against itself, and the battle ends up as an excessively long stall war (running into the hundreds of turns) then the win for that match will be awarded to the player who did not design the team.
- If a team is specifically designed to turn the match into a simple coin flip (e.g. a team of Pokemon who learn only Explosion or Memento), then it will be disqualified. Note that this does not exclude teams that use luck based strategy, only those that try to "play the system" and make the match into an overly simple battle that is determined purely or almost purely by luck.
If you are unsure about an opponent's team, contact me before playing them. Logs will be required if a battle is disputed, be sure to save them. There is no need to PM me logs so please don't unless you have good reason, you may post logs in the current round's thread if you wish.
When you have made your team for a round use Shoddy Battle's Export to text feature (Tools -> Export to text) and post it in this thread (you must specify any non-31-all IV spread or non-Lv. 100 Pokemon since export to text misses these. Hidden Power users, LC players, and legends beware) then PM, VM or otherwise contact your opponent with a link to your post (can be found by clicking the number in the upper right of each post). Once you have posted your team you may not edit it or the post which contains post in any way.
When reconstructing a team made by another player double check everything. If you make a mistake you will be disqualified unless your opponent decides to allow a rebattle (it is entirely their choice, do not try to pressure them). Any intentional changing of teams to make the matchup not even will result in you being instantly disqualified and banned from entering tournaments. Don't risk it.
The player who made the team should select the clauses and send the challenge. Unless otherwise agreed the team made by the player listed first in the match pairings should be used first, followed by the team made by me or a guest team builder, followed by the team made by the player listed second.
For example:
Player A Vs Player B
Players A's team would be used first, then the team which everyone uses, then Player B's team.
This order is not strictly enforced, if players chose together to do the battles in another order (e.g. because not all teams are ready) it is perfectly acceptable.
There are no rules against collaborating on a team or strategy with other players, please do. Despite there being no direct advantage from team knowledge, scouting opponent's matches to gauge their playstyle is forbidden.
Final decisions on rules and clarifications will be made by me, or in cases that involve my matches by Sonuis or another Tournament Director.
The deadline for posting teams has passed and several players have been subbed out. In future rounds not posting your team on time will count as your opponent winning that match. For this round, post it as soon as you are able, and if you have not already done so contat your opponent immediatly and arrange a time to play your matches.
The deadline for matches this round is the 2nd of May (Midnight, GMT). You may play matches as soon as you are able.
Extensions will only be granted in highly exceptional circumstances, "we got in contact a couple of days before the deadline and could not get a good time arranged" does not cut it.
Accompanying Stark thread for discussion of strategies and the concept.
Team Immune Vader! A legendary Little Cup team from back in the early days. Download link at the bottom of this post to avoid having to remake it, and avoid mistakes.
To be played with:
Strict Damage Clause
Sleep Clause
Timed Battle
All other clauses do not matter or are not wanted, turn them off.
All Pokemon Should be Level 5.
Gastly (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 196 Spd/196 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Energy Ball
- Explosion
- Shadow Ball
---
Munchlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 236 HP/36 Def/236 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Return
- Pursuit
- Protect
---
Gligar (M) @ Oran Berry
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 76 HP/236 Atk/156 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aqua Tail
- Roost
- Earthquake
- Rock Polish
---
Elekid (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 Atk/236 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Quick Attack
---
Houndour (M) @ Choice Scarf All IVs bar HP and Atk are 30.
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 240 Spd/200 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Flamethrower
---
Croagunk (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 188 Atk/116 Spd/188 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Nasty Plot
- Vacuum Wave
- Sucker Punch
---
To be played with:
Strict Damage Clause
Sleep Clause
Timed Battle
All other clauses do not matter or are not wanted, turn them off.
All Pokemon Should be Level 5.
Gastly (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 196 Spd/196 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Energy Ball
- Explosion
- Shadow Ball
---
Munchlax (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 236 HP/36 Def/236 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Return
- Pursuit
- Protect
---
Gligar (M) @ Oran Berry
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EVs: 76 HP/236 Atk/156 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aqua Tail
- Roost
- Earthquake
- Rock Polish
---
Elekid (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 Atk/236 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Cross Chop
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Quick Attack
---
Houndour (M) @ Choice Scarf All IVs bar HP and Atk are 30.
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 240 Spd/200 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Flamethrower
---
Croagunk (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 188 Atk/116 Spd/188 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Earthquake
- Nasty Plot
- Vacuum Wave
- Sucker Punch
---
Pairings:
(underlined=team posted, bold=won overall, italics=subbed in)
Dummy007 Vs. B-Lulz
undisput3d Vs. Lord Liam
Timmilein Vs. DarkLucario
Seafunks Vs. tito
polelover44 Vs. Yondie (2:0)
kael Vs. Bobtheball4
reachzero Vs. Veritas
JabbaTheGriffin Vs. The Real Elmo
The Politoed Hunter Vs. snorlax (2:1)
MetaNite Vs. Heysup (0:2)
Towelie Vs. shuckles my hero
dj white Vs. Justinawe
Disposable Puppets Vs. HR.
Optimusje Vs. Megan_Fox
Vaz Vs. PttP
Class Vs. Master of the Six Kings
Alaka Vs. Reverb (2:1)
manu-7p2b Vs. ReddyGo (2:0)
PrayingMantis Vs. Jolteon17 (2:0)
Chomper The Sharptooth Vs. TheFourthChaser
Son Of Shadoo Vs. bigfoots (2:1)
Mien. Vs. CHENN
pastel Vs. Cristall
Minato. Vs. HSA
The_Chaser Vs. Phyres (2:0)
locopoke Vs. Milenko
Frizy Vs. Corndog (0:2)
Declanp Vs. Joel
coolking49 Vs. purplefingers
Volvy Vs. UltraSkydive (2:0)
6A9 Ace Matador Vs. Blue_Tornado (0:2)
Lady Bug Vs. Dark_Psiana
Cloud9. Vs. Deep Thought
eric the espeon Vs. Coronis (1:0)
Fuzznip Vs. Rising_Dusk (2:1)
Yehom Vs. Raseri
rayquazamaster776 Vs. Spyros
AshPe Vs. StevenSnype
Earthworm Vs. Mekkah (2:0)
LinIsKorean Vs.Vader
ehssan Vs. Arin
Sledge Vs. zarator (1:2)
420 Vs. zorbees (0:2)
Golden Sun Vs. wraith (2:1)
_Flygon_ Vs. apologies (0:2)
SevveN Vs. Anti-H
DaPlayaFlow Vs. Cost
FM Vs. badalcristiano
ILoveLiza Vs. -Mind-
shep Vs. twash (2:0)
Suix Vs. Toaster From Space (2:0)
iss Vs. King Emerald
LiNAInVeRsE Vs. M Dragon
Agammemnon Vs. Serendipity
supermarth64 Vs. Dragonknight!
TV-Rocka Vs. tophway (0:2)
Conflict Vs. TDS
SoT Vs. Eo Ut Mortus
KnightoftheWind Vs. Keelhauled
Maaf Vs. askaninjask
zach the great Vs. Tsunami (1:2)
little loven Vs. seanp (2:0)
reyscarface Vs. SilentEcho
Delta 2777 Vs. Showsni (2:1)
11/128 teams needed.
25/64 pairings decided.
Subs:
(underlined=team posted, bold=won overall, italics=subbed in)
Dummy007 Vs. B-Lulz
undisput3d Vs. Lord Liam
Timmilein Vs. DarkLucario
Seafunks Vs. tito
polelover44 Vs. Yondie (2:0)
kael Vs. Bobtheball4
reachzero Vs. Veritas
JabbaTheGriffin Vs. The Real Elmo
The Politoed Hunter Vs. snorlax (2:1)
MetaNite Vs. Heysup (0:2)
Towelie Vs. shuckles my hero
dj white Vs. Justinawe
Disposable Puppets Vs. HR.
Optimusje Vs. Megan_Fox
Vaz Vs. PttP
Class Vs. Master of the Six Kings
Alaka Vs. Reverb (2:1)
manu-7p2b Vs. ReddyGo (2:0)
PrayingMantis Vs. Jolteon17 (2:0)
Son Of Shadoo Vs. bigfoots (2:1)
pastel Vs. Cristall
The_Chaser Vs. Phyres (2:0)
locopoke Vs. Milenko
Frizy Vs. Corndog (0:2)
Declanp Vs. Joel
coolking49 Vs. purplefingers
Volvy Vs. UltraSkydive (2:0)
6A9 Ace Matador Vs. Blue_Tornado (0:2)
Lady Bug Vs. Dark_Psiana
Cloud9. Vs. Deep Thought
eric the espeon Vs. Coronis (1:0)
Fuzznip Vs. Rising_Dusk (2:1)
Yehom Vs. Raseri
rayquazamaster776 Vs. Spyros
AshPe Vs. StevenSnype
Earthworm Vs. Mekkah (2:0)
LinIsKorean Vs.
ehssan Vs. Arin
Sledge Vs. zarator (1:2)
420 Vs. zorbees (0:2)
Golden Sun Vs. wraith (2:1)
_Flygon_ Vs. apologies (0:2)
DaPlayaFlow Vs. Cost
FM Vs. badalcristiano
ILoveLiza Vs. -Mind-
shep Vs. twash (2:0)
Suix Vs. Toaster From Space (2:0)
iss Vs. King Emerald
LiNAInVeRsE Vs. M Dragon
Agammemnon Vs. Serendipity
supermarth64 Vs. Dragonknight!
TV-Rocka Vs. tophway (0:2)
Conflict Vs. TDS
SoT Vs. Eo Ut Mortus
KnightoftheWind Vs. Keelhauled
Maaf Vs. askaninjask
zach the great Vs. Tsunami (1:2)
little loven Vs. seanp (2:0)
reyscarface Vs. SilentEcho
Delta 2777 Vs. Showsni (2:1)
11/128 teams needed.
25/64 pairings decided.
Subs:
