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You should be able to establish a pattern after only a few, but obviously the more you use the more certain you'll be. If you wouldn't mind posting your seed info and the info of the mons you're using to verify your seed, I'll take a look. Ideally I'd be able to recreate your scenario on my end, so anything and everything you think would be good to have.
I am using Sandshrew atm (female has my OT, male has OT of another random player. Non masuda method)
Male is in Dream ball and female in Poke ball.
No HA, so ability can be either 1 or 2, but I dont think it matter much?
The seed you see here is from the Shiny egg and not from the parent (the mistake) I made after the shiny egg.

Pattern of nature I hatched now: calm, jolly, lonely, hasty, adamant, naive, jolly (Let me know if I should hatch more).

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I am using Sandshrew atm (female has my OT, male has OT of another random player. Non masuda method)
Male is in Dream ball and female in Poke ball.
No HA, so ability can be either 1 or 2, but I dont think it matter much?
The seed you see here is from the Shiny egg and not from the parent (the mistake) I made after the shiny egg.

Pattern of nature I hatched now: calm, jolly, lonely, hasty, adamant, naive, jolly (Let me know if I should hatch more).

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Thanks. Not seeing too much myself :/ But as a couple follow up questions, do you know what the inheritance of that calm mon is? Anything else like its ball nature, gender, etc would be helpful too. Also, about how many eggs did you do after the shiny egg when you resaved your game and updated the tool seed status?

edit: also, yay 1500 posts ^_^
 
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Thanks. Not seeing too much myself :/ But as a couple follow up questions, do you know what the inheritance of that calm mon is? Anything else like its ball nature, gender, etc would be helpful too. Also, about how many eggs did you do after the shiny egg when you resaved your game and updated the tool seed status?
Ooff, was afraid so. :/

Details about the first/calm offspring:
Gender: male
Nature: calm (random, no everstone used)
Ability: 1 or 2, not HA
Ball: from male parent
IVs: 30 atk IV (same as female parent) and 31 speed IV (same as male parent), the IVs of the parents are in the picture above, where ''1'' means random/not 0, 30 or 31.

I think I have made a little bit more than 100 eggs after the shiny egg, but I am not 100% sure. Let's say between 10 and 200 eggs as a range.
 

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Hmmm yeah I'm not seeing any reasonable matches then for the info you provided. Only things I can get to show up are frame 1000+ which is unlikely given the number of eggs quoted. If you search on Masuda parents there is a result on frame 255 which is reasonable. It matches the Calm spread and the first few nature sequence. That's my best guess I'm afraid.
 
Hmmm yeah I'm not seeing any reasonable matches then for the info you provided. Only things I can get to show up are frame 1000+ which is unlikely given the number of eggs quoted. If you search on Masuda parents there is a result on frame 255 which is reasonable. It matches the Calm spread and the first few nature sequence. That's my best guess I'm afraid.
Thanks for the help nonetheless!
Is it worth to hatch some eggs from different parents and see if I can find the frame? btw I remember now *looking at my notes* that I have only hatched like 20 eggs after the shiny egg when I noticed the mistake.

I wonder how it is even possible that I lost my seed/frame at all sudden? As far as I know I did my last parent correct as I always write down the steps (accept/reject) I need to take and which I have already taken. There might be always an error on my side ofcourse, but given that I take care of my steps and then the other moment something went wrong during breeding and then my frame/seed is lost, too. Consider I hatched like 20 eggs and I didn't did anything weird during breeding.. what have gone wrong..?
(Too bad I am halfway in my story and don't have the judge option yet, that would certainly made some things easier...)
 

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A slight miscount or a slight error in the inputs could make it seem like you can't find a match (also ngl this tool is buggy), when in reality it's just a simple mistake. So it's surprisingly easy to lose track. It's sounds like you're trying to keep up tho so that's a good thing! Now, I say all that because it only just now occurred to me that you're using a DK, which I neglected to input when I was searching myself. lol I'm pretty confident that you're on frame 255. Calm spread on that frame matches up as does the nature sequence after that.

Edit: Note that I'm no longer assuming MM parents.
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A slight miscount or a slight error in the inputs could make it seem like you can't find a match (also ngl this tool is buggy), when in reality it's just a simple mistake. So it's surprisingly easy to lose track. It's sounds like you're trying to keep up tho so that's a good thing! Now, I say all that because it only just now occurred to me that you're using a DK, which I neglected to input when I was searching myself. lol I'm pretty confident that you're on frame 255. Calm spread on that frame matches up as does the nature sequence after that.

Edit: Note that I'm no longer assuming MM parents.
Ooh my..! Thanks a lot!! I kinda gave up as I couldn't find it myself as well :psyduck:
Sorry I forgot to mention I was using the Destiny Knot.. I just totally forgot that as well. I will try to find my frame later, so I will learn what I have to do next time when it happens again.

Thanks again!! :heart:

[EDIT] I know what to do next time now! I found out what I did wrong when I was searching for my frame, thanks to the pic you showed!
 
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Hi, so this is for a 4th Gen RNG project (Pearl, in case that's needed). I have located a Feebas tile in Mt. Coronet B1F, and matched a spread to the current date. As long as I only mess with the clock, and not the date, the tiles don't change. My question is this: has anyone successfully RNG'd Feebas, and if so, how does one search for a spread on either RNG Reporter of PokeFinder? From what I've understood of the little information I do have, the Feebas slots either overwrite the regular encounter slots or count separately altogether. Any information at all would be immensely appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Hi, so this is for a 4th Gen RNG project (Pearl, in case that's needed). I have located a Feebas tile in Mt. Coronet B1F, and matched a spread to the current date. As long as I only mess with the clock, and not the date, the tiles don't change. My question is this: has anyone successfully RNG'd Feebas, and if so, how does one search for a spread on either RNG Reporter of PokeFinder? From what I've understood of the little information I do have, the Feebas slots either overwrite the regular encounter slots or count separately altogether. Any information at all would be immensely appreciated. Thanks!
Christian has successfully done it in 4th gen a long time ago, so I'll tag him, hopefully he has some insight for you.
 

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Did mine ages ago, don't know what stage research has reached nowadays, but since you have 50% chance of fishing Feebas with Super Rod
(50 % of Feebas, 32.5 % of Gyarados, 17.5 % of Whiscash), my best bet would be picking a spread that has all available Encounter Slots with Super Rod so that you have a 100% chance of catching it (This is what I did as well back then).
 
One more quick question, just to clarify. Whilst fishing, the starting frame is 4. Does casting but not catching anything, as well as hooking a Pokemon advance the frame?
 
Hi!

Is it possible to RNG (4th Gen) an ID/SID that satisfies both the cute charm glitch as well as a pretty good shiny legendary spread?

For example the cute charm group that I would like to use is male lead shiny group 2 (00000008-0000000F), so I typed 0000000A (timid, but as far as I know it doesn't matter which PID you use as long as it's from the same group) into Pandora's box and searched for ID/SID combinations.

I then typed a pair of generated ID/SID into time finder, however I can only achieve a shiny legendary with a maximum of 3 perfect IVs. Is it theoretically possible that there is a PID that can activate both the cute charm glitch and a 5 IV shiny legendary spread? (I was aiming for the bold/timid pair 31/x/31/31/31/31 that both appear on frame 14).
 

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Quickly looking through the various 5 IV Method 1 spreads, I didn't see anything that would seem to be satisfied by Cute Charm IDs. Which isn't too surprising, considering the Cute Charm exploit operates via a bug. I don't know the math, so I can't say what's theoretically possible. But the pattern for the Method 1 PIDs that are shiny using Cute Charm IDs is that the 2 halves of the PID are almost the same, which just doesn't seem to be true of the 5IV spreads.

So I would say no, unless you count Heatran as a legend :blobshrug:
 
I have been attempting to learn Gen 7 Stationary RNG over the past week or so, as it’s something new to do during quarantine. I’ve mainly used “im a blisy”’s videos, combined with Djura’s unfinished guide, but these resources are kind of spotty at times (took me a long time to figure out what Pre-Timer actually did) and for a computer noob like myself (figuring out how to download EonTimer, and then how to open and run it, was quite a challenge), the process has been...interesting.

Currently, I am attempting to RNG the shiny Eclipse Lunala on my Sun game. I do not have CFW, PokeCalc, etc. I started with a Pre-Timer (Old 3DS) of 3500, and worked my way down to 3233 by intuition. What do the numbers in the Shift/F column of 3DS RNG Tool (the second one over) mean? Djura’s guide says to divide it by 30 and then by the NPC count (4 in this case), and then put the result in the Frame Hit box of EonTimer and hit update. When I do this though, the amount of time radically changes (sometimes adding as many as 9 minutes to the timer for frames that RNG Tool says are 4 minutes away. So, I stopped doing this and began fiddling with Pre-Timer instead. With a Pre-Timer of 3233, all of my attempts over the last two days have been between +6 and -6 in that second column (does that mean how many frames away I was? I only see even numbers in this column. Is it because Lunala’s genderless?). Most commonly, the column shows exactly +6 or -6. I changed my Pre-Timer to 3183 as a test, and was exactly 12 frames off.

Also, are there any tips on how to hit the target frame exactly? I am pretty dejected and probably am going to put this away for a day or two after having a Shift/F of +2. The two sequential frames I was aiming for were Timid 31/0/31/31/31/31.
 

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What do the numbers in the Shift/F column of 3DS RNG Tool (the second one over) mean?
Preface: Never done Gen 7 RNG, but maybe this'll help.

I believe F refers to frame in real time, so 1F = 1/60 sec. That column is basically the conversion you need for converting for frames to real time adjustments in the EonTimer.

From here

Step 10: If you didn't get the Pokemon

  1. Adjust the Pre-Timer and restart from step 3.
  2. Check Using Stats, put the stats of the Pokemon you got. Check +-100 frames in RNG Info, hit Calculate again, you will see the frames which have the spread you hit. If you can't find the Pokemon you hit, please make sure you got the initial seed correctly.
  3. Check your pre-timer. Look at the Shift/F Column.
    • If the number is between -4F and 4F, you are doing good and just because of the luck. Start over again and try to find a good seed and hit frame clusters with the same spread.
    • If the number is way off like +12 for example. This means you hit the frame too late. There are two ways you can adjust the timer.
    • Decrease your pre-timer. + 12 / 60 * (-1000) = -200, add that to you current Pre-Timer.
    • Put Taget Frame + 12 into Frame Hit, Click Update, EonTimer will do the math and subtract 200 from lag.
Note: The Pre-Timer calibration is the key of Gen7 main RNG.
You may need to recalibrate the Pre-Timer when you change the RNG target.
The 1000 is for milliseconds I'm pretty sure. Not sure why it's always even, but could be due to rounding. This process is much like the earlier gens where you have to have super precise timing, so I'm not sure of a great tip to make it more consistent.
 

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