Naruto (Spoilers ITT)

The monitor seemed to be showing a 100 percent match, which wouldn't be right if the DNA were from one of Sarada's parents. Since it's suggested that she was born outside of Konoha, maybe Karin had something to do with the birth and kept the DNA. Either way, Suigetsu seems like one of the last people who should be running a DNA test.
 

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The monitor seemed to be showing a 100 percent match, which wouldn't be right if the DNA were from one of Sarada's parents. Since it's suggested that she was born outside of Konoha, maybe Karin had something to do with the birth and kept the DNA. Either way, Suigetsu seems like one of the last people who should be running a DNA test.
Think you're reading too much into squigglies on a fictional ninja device.

In any case, I now get why NaruHina had to happen... because everything in Naruto ends up having to do with Heredity. Every character pretty much is the summation of his lineage in terms of power. Since the "epitome" of power in Naruto at the end of the series is the combination of the "body" and "eye" lineages of the Otsuki line, it looks like Kishi wanted to explore what happens when both main characters (Bolt and Salad) have both from the get-go.
Sakura is basically a nobody genetically, and if Bolt wants to keep up at all with Sarada he'll need both Naruto and Hinata's genes (love dynamics aside, anyone could see that NaruHina produces WAY more powerful ninjas, and also ends up giving the upcoming Hokage greater social stature, makes sense).

Bolt-- Yes, it doesn't look like he has the Byakugan, and we've never heard of a Hyuga having to "awaken" the Byakugan, but the way Kishi has been going about loving to throw lineage-based-powers on characters, you know it's going to happen.

Anyway, this does make the villain Shin in a very weird position as an antagonist for this story though... considering he's like some really twisted over-Darwinist (but you really don't want to call him that, since his interpretation of "Evolution" is not only extreme, but also flawed). Anyway, normally to "prove him wrong" you'd want him to be defeated by someone extremely ordinary, like Sakura. But all the characters in the story so far (Naruto, Sasuke, and their kids) come from the most powerful lineages in ninja-world. So... even if Shin loses, does it really prove anything?

Especially if Sarada or Bolt defeat him, considering they're like the epitome of lineage in Naruto... eh... I don't really get where this is going.
 
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>People not getting the fact that this is clearly about what a parent is.

Do you need big bright shining lights and pointy signs to highlight the conversation between sakura and shin?

Like the metatextual dialogue there was so starkly clear and put all the themes of this epilogue adventure right out in front of us.
 

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>People not getting the fact that this is clearly about what a parent is.

Do you need big bright shining lights and pointy signs to highlight the conversation between sakura and shin?

Like the metatextual dialogue there was so starkly clear and put all the themes of this epilogue adventure right out in front of us.
If the story were about "proving what a parent is" as it's focal question, than Sakura would be the main character, and she'd defeat Shin... from a typical Shonen equation.

If that's the central question with Sarada as the main character, than this is more like a Shojo/Seinen-Drama with a ninja-war going in the background, rather than a Shonen story... (which is actually what this feels like so far).

I guess the problem is that we've had no time to really experience the "bond" between Sakura and Sarada except for a few lines of conversation (that are already getting re-quoted...), so we're not given enough to give a damn about Sarada's frustrations, or to actually empathize with what Sakura's saying, except that it mirror's our own society's typical expectations.


In the original series, we got LOTS of time to experience both Naruto and Sasuke's childhood traumas... so we could relate with those characters. But we don't have that with Sarada (not when she started suspecting, or how Sasuke being gone has warped her life), so we can't care as much. It doesn't help that her "issues" are kind of light compared to Sasuke's (mass genocide of his clan?). We just can't help compare, and it's not enough that what she's experiencing would be traumatic in "our world", because we're reading in their ninja world.
 
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So Sakura healed him just to hear his story and is now going to beat the crap out of him...ok...we all know she's gonna lose and end up getting rescued...

Talk no Jutsu has its calming effect on Sarada, more progression next time please.
 

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So Sakura healed him just to hear his story and is now going to beat the crap out of him...ok...we all know she's gonna lose and end up getting rescued...

Talk no Jutsu has its calming effect on Sarada, more progression next time please.
We now know that compared to the Third, Naruto really sucks at Hokage-speech
 

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We now know that compared to the Third, Naruto really sucks at Hokage-speech
I am more impressed they kept Naruto completely in-character. Naruto never was any good at subtlety or mystifying half-truth responses. No reason to expect he would be now after only something like 15 years.
 
I read a fan theory related to the whole "Karin" DNA thing. There are panels showing Sarada being ill, a panel of her BEFORE she was ill, and a panel after. She wears no glasses before the sick panel, yet has them afterwards. Some people theorized that Sarada might have a serious illness her mother wouldn't be capable of healing (such as the illness Itachi had), yet Karin would be able to. The illness had advanced to harming Sarada's eyesight, which required her to wear glasses, and she has Karin's DNA.

I don't know, I thought it was an interesting theory. I don't really believe that Karin and Sasuke had a daughter under conventional means, especially with how Sasuke left Sakura in the last chapter of the manga.

Anyway, hopefully there's some Shin pounding going on in the next chapter.
 

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I read a fan theory related to the whole "Karin" DNA thing. There are panels showing Sarada being ill, a panel of her BEFORE she was ill, and a panel after. She wears no glasses before the sick panel, yet has them afterwards. Some people theorized that Sarada might have a serious illness her mother wouldn't be capable of healing (such as the illness Itachi had), yet Karin would be able to. The illness had advanced to harming Sarada's eyesight, which required her to wear glasses, and she has Karin's DNA.

I don't know, I thought it was an interesting theory. I don't really believe that Karin and Sasuke had a daughter under conventional means, especially with how Sasuke left Sakura in the last chapter of the manga.

Anyway, hopefully there's some Shin pounding going on in the next chapter.
Or you know... she's just remembering one instance where Sakura took care of her... and then a later memory when she's older, and people's eyes usually get worse as they get older... yeah, you know. Plus, Karin's "Bite me" thing doesn't exactly change who your genetic parent is... That one's gone off the deep end.


BTW-- anyone notice the pointed admission that Sakura and Sasuke are married but have never even kissed? wtf?



srsly?





How about this theory: Naruto is actually Sarada's Mom, and because he's an Uzumaki his DNA matches Karin's! And that REALLY makes him Sarada's family, and a reason for him to try cover-up.

I mean, you know...





Right? Seems more legit than Sakura at this point...
 
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BTW-- anyone notice the pointed admission that Sakura and Sasuke are married but have never even kissed? wtf?
All it means is that she holds the memory of the forehead poke even dearer in her heart, which isn't very surprising and doesn't necessarily mean that they never kissed. By that logic, the next page would imply that they got it on at some point at least.

I read a fan theory related to the whole "Karin" DNA thing. There are panels showing Sarada being ill, a panel of her BEFORE she was ill, and a panel after. She wears no glasses before the sick panel, yet has them afterwards. Some people theorized that Sarada might have a serious illness her mother wouldn't be capable of healing (such as the illness Itachi had), yet Karin would be able to. The illness had advanced to harming Sarada's eyesight, which required her to wear glasses, and she has Karin's DNA.
I saw this theory on r/Naruto as well. It could just be a coincidence, but I agree that it's interesting.


EDIT @ below: It could just as easily be interpreted as embarrassment because her five yo just posed that question to her.
 
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All it means is that she holds the memory of the forehead poke even dearer in her heart, which isn't very surprising and doesn't necessarily mean that they never kissed. By that logic, the next page would imply that they got it on at some point at least.
No, pay attention to the highlighted panel-- she has a sweat drop and her eyebrows come up in the middle. It's clear that she's troubled and having difficulty answering the question. The panel before it's really unnatural too... Considering it's a question most would be able to answer with an "of course" remark.
 

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EDIT @ below: It could just as easily be interpreted as embarrassment because her five yo just posed that question to her.
If it were real life, maybe-- if the question really caught you by surprise such that you messed up with an unnatural expression for the situation.

But this is a manga-- a media where a story is meant to be told succinctly and purposefully. Every panel has a purpose, and is something the artist took time to plan and draw. When an artist takes the time to draw an expression panel sequence, there's meaning there. Kishi drew her with a difficult expression here because it was a difficult question to answer for her. It's clear she has to consider it, which means there's something to not be forthwith there.

I think an interpretation that there's nothing there is just lacking attention to detail.
 
You know thinking about it, another potential idea, how does Karin heal people? They bite and suck on her. So potentially depending on how it works, everyone could have some of her DNA floating around if it lingers (yes irl that's not how it works, but this is ninja world with magic jutsu), since they did swab Sarada's mouth.

Edit: or what tayla said above since I didn't bother reading new posts or whatever reddit is.
 
You know thinking about it, another potential idea, how does Karin heal people? They bite and suck on her. So potentially depending on how it works, everyone could have some of her DNA floating around if it lingers (yes irl that's not how it works, but this is ninja world with magic jutsu), since they did swab Sarada's mouth.

Edit: or what tayla said above since I didn't bother reading new posts or whatever reddit is.
That's not how it works and swabbing a mouth isn't the same thing. Ingested foreign DNA will be destroyed in the stomach if not in the mouth first. Whereas Suigetsu was swabbing her mouth to get a sample of her cells to extract her DNA from. Funny how you say its a ninja world with magic jutsu yet I saw some some common lab equipment in Orochi's lair like a nice looking centrifuge. I was actually expecting him to run a gel any second, but I remembered it was just Naruto
 
DNA test has to be botched, this is Suigetsu we're talking about administering it here. Sarada is too much like the other two.
 

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DNA test has to be botched, this is Suigetsu we're talking about administering it here. Sarada is too much like the other two.
Ugh... There's nothing genetic about Sakura's/Tsunade's strength-based moves, it's all about Chakra control-- it's learned. We've already seen in these Gaiden chapters that this new generation has been taught advanced skills from a much younger age than Naruto's generation (we've countlessly seen young people being taught their parent's advanced techniques)-- as a trend, it doesn't surprise me that Sakura's taught Sarada this much. Also, language/speech habits come from nurture, not nature.

As mentioned, it would be way to dumb from a story perspective to build up the genetic test plot to only after say "lol, Suigetsu is lame."

Suigetsu doesn't have enough character development even from the original manga (nevermind this one) to warrant it. Suigetsu has character development to establish him as brash, annoying, lazy-- but not incompetent. If anything, Suigetsu has development to establish him as smart and competent. Overall though, he has little development at all. "Oh that Suigetsu, screwing it up" doesn't have the development needed to be a legitimate plot development.

Kishi was just looking for a way to recycle old characters-- Suigetsu got used because of the connection to Orochinaru, and because excess curiosity IS one of his established character traits.
 
I thought she learned sakura's technique just recently if not right during the battle when they showed a close up of her sharingan. Its like a rite of passage to copy someone's moves with your sharingan (rock lee vs sasuke).

I think Sarada's crazy to be upset over Karin potentially being her mom because finding out you have uzumaki DNA in naruto is like winning the lottery.
 

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I thought she learned sakura's technique just recently if not right during the battle when they showed a close up of her sharingan. Its like a rite of passage to copy someone's moves with your sharingan (rock lee vs sasuke).

I think Sarada's crazy to be upset over Karin potentially being her mom because finding out you have uzumaki DNA in naruto is like winning the lottery.
She doesn't know anything about Karen or her connection to the Uzumaki. She probably doesn't know anything about the Uzumaki clan except that the Hokage and Bolt are Uzumaki clan.
 
Fair enough. Although Sarada is a smart girl I assumed she was curious enough to read Karin's last name when she was staring at the computer screen at some point.

On an unrelated note I can't wait for the next anime episode when might guy fights madara. Been wanting to see that fight animated for a while.
 
Did they finally stop it with the shovelware trash filler episodes and are moving on to guy vs Madara finally? Agreed I've been waiting for it to come out in the anime as well, great fight in the manga so hopefully the anime will do it justice (unlike the horrid animation that ruined nine tales Naruto vs Pain).
 

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Fair enough. Although Sarada is a smart girl I assumed she was curious enough to read Karin's last name when she was staring at the computer screen at some point.

On an unrelated note I can't wait for the next anime episode when might guy fights madara. Been wanting to see that fight animated for a while.
Eh Karin's last name was never revealed. Just because you have Uzumaki or Uchiha DNA doesn't necessarily mean thats they're last name. Nagato had the Uzumaki chakra too did he not?
 
Eh Karin's last name was never revealed. Just because you have Uzumaki or Uchiha DNA doesn't necessarily mean thats they're last name. Nagato had the Uzumaki chakra too did he not?
But Kabuto knew when he was explaining to Sasuke where his power come from in his snake form. He told sasuke she was an uzumaki. Are you saying that Kabuto (who's duty was to collect information on people) probably had no role in compiling that database that suigetsu used for the DNA test?
 

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