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Naruto (Spoilers ITT)
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/me waits for endless Kagebushin No Jutsu and Rasengan.
Oh damn, almost forgot...Talk No Jutsu!
Oh damn, almost forgot...Talk No Jutsu!
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If Shin is smart, he will run.
If not, I imagine after some Talk No Jutsu and a surprise attack, Naruto will win handily, hopefully in an amusing way.
If not, I imagine after some Talk No Jutsu and a surprise attack, Naruto will win handily, hopefully in an amusing way.
Confirmed: Naruto has picked up Exaggerate No Jutsu.
Also Nine Tails Chakra and Sage Mode are still things (well, no reason for the latter to go away). Managed to get both those in quickly. I do like how Naruto is so chill with all the next generation kids.
Also Nine Tails Chakra and Sage Mode are still things (well, no reason for the latter to go away). Managed to get both those in quickly. I do like how Naruto is so chill with all the next generation kids.
Ok...so one random site I've never heard of says it's Shisui with no supporting evidence whatsoever; what if I told you it was Madara reincarnated again with implanted sharingans from Tobi's inner world? Or Sakura's evil twin they never mentioned implanted with spare sharingans from the Uchiha massacre? I'm just as reliable as a source after all...
Hell it very well could be Danzo like I said earlier, allied with Orochimaru's research, he might've had 1 hidden sharingan for 1 last izanagi that let him escape his final jutsu used on Sasuke, then afterward he dug up some more eyes and decided to shave his head bald and implant them everywhere. As well as stabilizing the Hashirama cells in him through researching the leftover white zetsu bodies and creating Shin as a faux Uchiha. And those little pet things with the sharingan are spare 10 tail remnants. See I'm good at random theories too! Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they found some stupid reason for it to be Shisui, but I'm not buying it until it's actually revealed.
The only thing that's odd is that the chapter mentions the white zestu army predating Kaguya, which contradicts what was established before in that the white zetsus are actually people from the ancient past Kaguya ruled who were caught in the infinite tsuyokomi, stuck on the plant, and slowly transformed into white zetsu. So are we getting a retcon for the sake of a new plot or are they lying to us...
Hell it very well could be Danzo like I said earlier, allied with Orochimaru's research, he might've had 1 hidden sharingan for 1 last izanagi that let him escape his final jutsu used on Sasuke, then afterward he dug up some more eyes and decided to shave his head bald and implant them everywhere. As well as stabilizing the Hashirama cells in him through researching the leftover white zetsu bodies and creating Shin as a faux Uchiha. And those little pet things with the sharingan are spare 10 tail remnants. See I'm good at random theories too! Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they found some stupid reason for it to be Shisui, but I'm not buying it until it's actually revealed.
The only thing that's odd is that the chapter mentions the white zestu army predating Kaguya, which contradicts what was established before in that the white zetsus are actually people from the ancient past Kaguya ruled who were caught in the infinite tsuyokomi, stuck on the plant, and slowly transformed into white zetsu. So are we getting a retcon for the sake of a new plot or are they lying to us...
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Well I would not call totally maddness that the new guy could be Shisui.
What reason did we have to think that Tobi-New Madara was in fact Obito?, for all we can say obito was death and he passed away in good terms with his teammates. And suddely, out of the blue, it happened that he meet a very old Madara that manipulated him at his convenience (althought obito later say it was a "jutsu", yeah cockblocked-at-thirteen no jutsu, lmao)
IMO, that tobi resulted to be Obito was just "fan service". If the autor want he can make a deux es machina theory about how Shisui survived the fall and later cameback to the Uchiha Village just to find all of then death, confirming Itachi did his job.
But what reason could he possible have to store away like a dozen of Sharingans?
edit: also, as the amazingly good Ninja that Itachi was, only him knowed of his plans. One of them consiting in making emo.... Sasuke "the hero of the leaf" by killing the one that slaugheted the Uchicha clan. So whoever is the new villian (and more if is Shisui) killing Sasuke (or at least trying to) is the dumbess thing he can do and will not honor Itachi memory.
What reason did we have to think that Tobi-New Madara was in fact Obito?, for all we can say obito was death and he passed away in good terms with his teammates. And suddely, out of the blue, it happened that he meet a very old Madara that manipulated him at his convenience (althought obito later say it was a "jutsu", yeah cockblocked-at-thirteen no jutsu, lmao)
IMO, that tobi resulted to be Obito was just "fan service". If the autor want he can make a deux es machina theory about how Shisui survived the fall and later cameback to the Uchiha Village just to find all of then death, confirming Itachi did his job.
But what reason could he possible have to store away like a dozen of Sharingans?
edit: also, as the amazingly good Ninja that Itachi was, only him knowed of his plans. One of them consiting in making emo.... Sasuke "the hero of the leaf" by killing the one that slaugheted the Uchicha clan. So whoever is the new villian (and more if is Shisui) killing Sasuke (or at least trying to) is the dumbess thing he can do and will not honor Itachi memory.
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The shisui theory is absolutely baseless and retarded.
But then, the premise and storyline so far is also retarded...
But then, the premise and storyline so far is also retarded...
So, Sakura has her mama bear moment and then gets captured...uh huh...
Oh and the main villain calls himself Shin Uchiha has well. So his "kids" are probably some plant clone or zetsu clones of him I'd guess. The odd little thing with the Uchiha eyes that uses the time space jutsu, still no clue, even if it looks like a mini 10 tails creature bit.
Oh and the main villain calls himself Shin Uchiha has well. So his "kids" are probably some plant clone or zetsu clones of him I'd guess. The odd little thing with the Uchiha eyes that uses the time space jutsu, still no clue, even if it looks like a mini 10 tails creature bit.
Could someone tell me how it is Sasuke's Rinnegan (which he apparently has now) got beaten by EyeGuy, but Sakura was able to Grizzly Mama Blitz him?
Eh whatever, we got to see Kurama insult Naruto so it's all good.
Eh whatever, we got to see Kurama insult Naruto so it's all good.
Not to mention that an opponent who can be hit by Sakura really shouldn't be able to do shit to Naruto (who by all rights and logic should be several times faster than Sasuke, and exponentially faster than Sakura).
That... escalated quickly...
Well, one thing's certain-- that angst bag is definitely Sasuke's offspring...
Well, one thing's certain-- that angst bag is definitely Sasuke's offspring...
Well, tiny bit right about the Danzo connection and clone guesses. Depending on how solid genetic testing is in Naruto world, this could just be a red herring with Sarada's mom, that or Karin is twisted enough to rape Sasuke, as again I really don't see Sasuke willingly doing it with that...thing...
But yeah, definitely Sasuke's half for sure, all we're missing is a revenge quest for Sarada.
But yeah, definitely Sasuke's half for sure, all we're missing is a revenge quest for Sarada.
It'd be extremely lame as a plot device if they just went "whoops, got the DNA test wrong!"
The angry uchiha strikes back
The monitor seemed to be showing a 100 percent match, which wouldn't be right if the DNA were from one of Sarada's parents. Since it's suggested that she was born outside of Konoha, maybe Karin had something to do with the birth and kept the DNA. Either way, Suigetsu seems like one of the last people who should be running a DNA test.
Think you're reading too much into squigglies on a fictional ninja device.
In any case, I now get why NaruHina had to happen... because everything in Naruto ends up having to do with Heredity. Every character pretty much is the summation of his lineage in terms of power. Since the "epitome" of power in Naruto at the end of the series is the combination of the "body" and "eye" lineages of the Otsuki line, it looks like Kishi wanted to explore what happens when both main characters (Bolt and Salad) have both from the get-go.
Sakura is basically a nobody genetically, and if Bolt wants to keep up at all with Sarada he'll need both Naruto and Hinata's genes (love dynamics aside, anyone could see that NaruHina produces WAY more powerful ninjas, and also ends up giving the upcoming Hokage greater social stature, makes sense).
Bolt-- Yes, it doesn't look like he has the Byakugan, and we've never heard of a Hyuga having to "awaken" the Byakugan, but the way Kishi has been going about loving to throw lineage-based-powers on characters, you know it's going to happen.
Anyway, this does make the villain Shin in a very weird position as an antagonist for this story though... considering he's like some really twisted over-Darwinist (but you really don't want to call him that, since his interpretation of "Evolution" is not only extreme, but also flawed). Anyway, normally to "prove him wrong" you'd want him to be defeated by someone extremely ordinary, like Sakura. But all the characters in the story so far (Naruto, Sasuke, and their kids) come from the most powerful lineages in ninja-world. So... even if Shin loses, does it really prove anything?
Especially if Sarada or Bolt defeat him, considering they're like the epitome of lineage in Naruto... eh... I don't really get where this is going.
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>People not getting the fact that this is clearly about what a parent is.
Do you need big bright shining lights and pointy signs to highlight the conversation between sakura and shin?
Like the metatextual dialogue there was so starkly clear and put all the themes of this epilogue adventure right out in front of us.
Do you need big bright shining lights and pointy signs to highlight the conversation between sakura and shin?
Like the metatextual dialogue there was so starkly clear and put all the themes of this epilogue adventure right out in front of us.
If the story were about "proving what a parent is" as it's focal question, than Sakura would be the main character, and she'd defeat Shin... from a typical Shonen equation.
If that's the central question with Sarada as the main character, than this is more like a Shojo/Seinen-Drama with a ninja-war going in the background, rather than a Shonen story... (which is actually what this feels like so far).
I guess the problem is that we've had no time to really experience the "bond" between Sakura and Sarada except for a few lines of conversation (that are already getting re-quoted...), so we're not given enough to give a damn about Sarada's frustrations, or to actually empathize with what Sakura's saying, except that it mirror's our own society's typical expectations.
In the original series, we got LOTS of time to experience both Naruto and Sasuke's childhood traumas... so we could relate with those characters. But we don't have that with Sarada (not when she started suspecting, or how Sasuke being gone has warped her life), so we can't care as much. It doesn't help that her "issues" are kind of light compared to Sasuke's (mass genocide of his clan?). We just can't help compare, and it's not enough that what she's experiencing would be traumatic in "our world", because we're reading in their ninja world.
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