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Project National Dex How To Lure (Week 42: Pelipper)
- Thread starter Dorron
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Flyinium Lando
Fly Z Lando
fly z lando
Greninja-Ash (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Water Shuriken
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
This set is pretty cool, even though taking rid of spikes/u-turn is kinda unpog it makes its worth being able to lure some of AGrens checks like,
But thats beside the point, the bigger lure here for ice beam gren is
Being a very common mon for rocks and a good backbone for gren, chary, heatran and more.252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 204+ SpD Kommo-o: 180-214 (50.8 - 60.4%) -- 91% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
With a little bit of chip over time, this sucker is gone.
Welp that's the end of my ted talk.
Peace
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Heatran @ Steelium Z
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Steel Beam
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Toxic/Taunt/Stealth Rock
Kommo-o is often put onto bulky offenses to check heatran, but as it has no reliable recovery, it isn't hard to get the minimal chip required to surprise it with a z-move.
252+ SpA Heatran Corkscrew Crash (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 192+ SpD Kommo-o: 262-309 (74 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Rillaboom
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Grassy Glide
- Superpower
- Acrobatics
Notice how there's no item? yup, that's how we roll.
Grassy seed is nice, but a one time boost to defense doesn't feel all that much necessary if it gets scared out before it gets the chance to use the seed properly. Since there's no gems, itemless is the next best thing to consistently get the 110 bp of acro.
+2 252 Atk Rillaboom Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 48 Def Kommo-o: 370-436 (104.5 - 123.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
grassy seed is nice too, i guess (:
MachineParadise
Banned deucer.
:ss/Mega-Charizard-Y:
Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Air Slash
- Roost
Mega Charizard Y is normally walled but Air Slash lets it 2HKO. You lose out on Focus Blast/Scorching Sands but if you want to hit Kommo-o and whatever resists Flamethrower it's worth it.
252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 196+ SpD Kommo-o: 210-248 (59.4 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Charizard-Mega-Y @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Air Slash
- Roost
Mega Charizard Y is normally walled but Air Slash lets it 2HKO. You lose out on Focus Blast/Scorching Sands but if you want to hit Kommo-o and whatever resists Flamethrower it's worth it.
252 SpA Charizard-Mega-Y Air Slash vs. 248 HP / 196+ SpD Kommo-o: 210-248 (59.4 - 70.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Voting for Round 9 Has Started!
Ice Beam Greninja by low ladder Erti !
Greninja-Ash (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Water Shuriken
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
This set is pretty cool, even though taking rid of spikes/u-turn is kinda unpog it makes its worth being able to lure some of AGrens checks like,
But thats beside the point, the bigger lure here for ice beam gren is
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 204+ SpD Kommo-o: 180-214 (50.8 - 60.4%) -- 91% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
With a little bit of chip over time, this sucker is gone.
Welp that's the end of my ted talk.
Peace
Steelium Z Heatran by ChrisPBacon !
Acrobatics Rillaboom by salmonelephant !
Heatran @ Steelium Z
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Steel Beam
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Toxic/Taunt/Stealth Rock
Kommo-o is often put onto bulky offenses to check heatran, but as it has no reliable recovery, it isn't hard to get the minimal chip required to surprise it with a z-move.
252+ SpA Heatran Corkscrew Crash (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 192+ SpD Kommo-o: 262-309 (74 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Air Slash Charizard Y by MachineParadise !
Rillaboom
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Grassy Glide
- Superpower
- Acrobatics
Notice how there's no item? yup, that's how we roll.
Grassy seed is nice, but a one time boost to defense doesn't feel all that much necessary if it gets scared out before it gets the chance to use the seed properly. Since there's no gems, itemless is the next best thing to consistently get the 110 bp of acro.
+2 252 Atk Rillaboom Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 48 Def Kommo-o: 370-436 (104.5 - 123.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
grassy seed is nice too, i guess (:
Voting ends TOMORROW 11:59pm +8!
agc x dababy
rng giveth and rng taketh
ice beam gren def not because i was forced to
tran, only mon that doesn't have to give up something significant
Congrats to salmonelephant for winning this week!
Week 11: Rotom-Wash
How will you lure in our tier’s favourite washing machine?
Submissions are due by 2/9 at 11:59 PM GMT+8
Week 11: Rotom-Wash
How will you lure in our tier’s favourite washing machine?
Submissions are due by 2/9 at 11:59 PM GMT+8
this washing machine checks this fire frog until the frog decides to chuck pretty little flowers and plants at it
Heatran @ Grassium Z
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Solar Beam
- Taunt
252+ SpA Heatran Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-Wash: 312-368 (102.6 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO
this lures in rotom wash, to supposedly eat a magma, earth power, or steel stab, but then tran can either hard read the washtom switchin and ohko it outright, or trap with magma and then Z
Heatran @ Grassium Z
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Magma Storm
- Earth Power
- Solar Beam
- Taunt
252+ SpA Heatran Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-Wash: 312-368 (102.6 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO
this lures in rotom wash, to supposedly eat a magma, earth power, or steel stab, but then tran can either hard read the washtom switchin and ohko it outright, or trap with magma and then Z
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False, my favorite washing machine is sableye mega
Swampert-Mega @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flip Turn
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Toxic
Toxic is a really cool move on rain Mega-Swampert, allowing it to cripple most of its switch ins such as Slowbro, Tangrowth, and of course, Rotom-Wash. It even annoys certain stalls, sometimes relying on Mola and Shedinja to check it. Sure, Ice Punch is cool against av tang and Latias, but those doesn't appreciate Toxic either.
Swampert-Mega @ Swampertite
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flip Turn
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Toxic
Toxic is a really cool move on rain Mega-Swampert, allowing it to cripple most of its switch ins such as Slowbro, Tangrowth, and of course, Rotom-Wash. It even annoys certain stalls, sometimes relying on Mola and Shedinja to check it. Sure, Ice Punch is cool against av tang and Latias, but those doesn't appreciate Toxic either.
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Gyarados @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Moxie
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Bounce
- Power Whip
+1 252 Atk Gyarados Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 72+ Def Rotom-Wash: 306-362 (100.6 - 119%) -- guaranteed OHKO
rotom wash usually check regular gyarados and threaten to kill it with volt switch, but gyarados dd once and ohko it with power whip
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