My vote goes to Cinderace, it's one of the only ones I can really see mola no brainer switching into
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Cinderace
I gotta vote Volcanion. It’s normally such a fee mola switch but trapping + taunt ruins it.
Voting for Volcanion here, it is immune to Flip Turn and traps and taunts and slowly tortures the fish to death. Definitely Best pick vs mola
Volcarona is pure heat btw but I have to go with cinderace
cacturne the mola wall
Howl Zamazenta
With both having 3 votes, we have a tie between BrisingrDraconis and Sami !
Now, after some confusion and a small hiatus, on to the next round:
Cycle 15: IDBP Zama
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 132 Atk / 124 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch / Stone Edge
- Substitute
With its stellar speed and ability to steamroll its way through teams via the combination of Iron Defense and Body Press, Zamazenta has cemented itself as a top tier threat, being able to muscle its way through most defensive cores, as well as soft checking most physical attackers with its high bulk.
How will you lure this threat?
Submissions close on February 14th!
Now, after some confusion and a small hiatus, on to the next round:
Cycle 15: IDBP Zama
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 132 Atk / 124 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch / Stone Edge
- Substitute
With its stellar speed and ability to steamroll its way through teams via the combination of Iron Defense and Body Press, Zamazenta has cemented itself as a top tier threat, being able to muscle its way through most defensive cores, as well as soft checking most physical attackers with its high bulk.
How will you lure this threat?
Submissions close on February 14th!
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Dragonite @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Multiscale
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Hurricane
- Earthquake
- Ice Spinner
+3 124 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 40 HP / 212 Def Dragonite: 114-135 (34.2 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0- SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta: 188-224 (57.8 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Hope this counts, zama can't steamroll through dnite or properly set up on it without the risk of hurricane hitting it and swiftly 2hko'ing it. Stone edge idbp zama variants do 2hko dnite if multi scale is not active anymore.
132 Atk Zamazenta Stone Edge vs. 40 HP / 212 Def Dragonite: 160-190 (48 - 57%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
Ability: Multiscale
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 40 HP / 216 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Hurricane
- Earthquake
- Ice Spinner
+3 124 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 40 HP / 212 Def Dragonite: 114-135 (34.2 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0- SpA Dragonite Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta: 188-224 (57.8 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Hope this counts, zama can't steamroll through dnite or properly set up on it without the risk of hurricane hitting it and swiftly 2hko'ing it. Stone edge idbp zama variants do 2hko dnite if multi scale is not active anymore.
132 Atk Zamazenta Stone Edge vs. 40 HP / 212 Def Dragonite: 160-190 (48 - 57%) -- 89.1% chance to 2HKO
Slowking-Galar @ Assault Vest
Level: 100
Calm Nature
Ability: Regenerator
Happiness: 69
EVs: 240 HP / 48 Def / 40 SpA / 180 SpD
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic Noise
- Sludge Bomb
- Ice Beam
- Flamethrower
40 SpA Slowking-Galar Psychic Noise vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta: 164-194 (50.4 - 59.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
132 Atk Zamazenta Crunch vs. 240 HP / 48 Def Slowking-Galar: 170-202 (43.4 - 51.6%) -- 6.6% chance to 2HKO
Fun set, does the job
Hatterene @ Leftovers
Level: 100
Ability: Magic Bounce
Nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Draining Kiss
- Psychic Noise
- Nuzzle
This set just flawlessly hard counters Zamazenta, even if it has Heavy Slam it wouldn't matter much.... Hatt is just a hard counter to Zama, unless it runs the offensive expert belt set with Heavy Slam for Hatterene and other fairies, stone edge for moltres and zapdos, crunch for gholdengo and Slowking-Galar, and Close Combat for strong stab.
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 Spe
Bold Nature
- Earth Power
- U-turn
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt
Basically any lando-t set works for this as long as you have epower, you can run lefties, max/max defenses, toxic, defog, whatever. As long as you have epower you're always breaking zama's sub and getting a 4hko and zama isn't doing much back.
0 SpA Landorus-Therian Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta: 90-106 (27.6 - 32.6%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+3 124 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 252 HP / 124+ Def Landorus-Therian: 117-138 (30.6 - 36.1%) -- 54.6% chance to 3HKO
-1 132 Atk Zamazenta Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 124+ Def Landorus-Therian: 55-65 (14.3 - 17%) -- possible 6HKO
Samurott-Hisui @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpA
Lax Nature
- Air Slash
- Ceaseless Edge
- Aqua Cutter
- Encore
This set can live a +1 body press from a Zama, do a huge chunk with Flynium Z, and then you can send in something faster to finish the Zama off. Also you can encore them into iron defense if you predict it. No Zama will ever expect to get hit for most their hp by a H-Samurott.
252 SpA Samurott-Hisui Supersonic Skystrike (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta: 226-268 (69.5 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 124 Def Zamazenta Body Press vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Samurott-Hisui: 270-320 (84.1 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Gyarados @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Bounce
-1 132 Atk Zamazenta Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 152-180 (45.9 - 54.3%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. +1 0 HP / 124 Def Zamazenta: 404-476 (124.3 - 146.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Bounce
-1 132 Atk Zamazenta Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gyarados: 152-180 (45.9 - 54.3%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Gyarados Supersonic Skystrike (160 BP) vs. +1 0 HP / 124 Def Zamazenta: 404-476 (124.3 - 146.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Weavile @ Focus Sash
Level: 100
Jolly Nature
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Counter
Zama wont sub up bc Taxel breaks Sub, so u Counter and u win
Level: 100
Jolly Nature
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard
- Counter
Zama wont sub up bc Taxel breaks Sub, so u Counter and u win
Aight votings going up but unfortunately...most of these are not actually lures. Gonna reiterate that a lure is meant to bait said pokemon in to KO it, not just beat it 1 on 1, caus most of these zama would not switch in on.
So uh onto voting!
Hurricane
by YaVR_1
Sash Counter
by Kin+ak (✧∇✧)
by niminm
Voting closes on February 19th!
So uh onto voting!
Hurricane
by YaVR_1Sash Counter
by Kin+ak (✧∇✧) by niminmVoting closes on February 19th!
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weavile
also how is zama switching in to dnite but not gyara
also how is zama switching in to dnite but not gyara
act this is fair holup
