Hey guys,
As requested by some of you i will publish how to actually pull off some meme strategies. (some would call it fun or troll).
Here comes the second Team Idea:
Hyper Offense: [ SucideLead -> Wallbreaker -> Sweeper ]
Proove that i was Rank 4 with this meme :
Replay 1 Replay 2 Replay3
Have Fun trying to use this on your own :-)
Best Regards
The Team
2) The Game Plan
Hyper Offense is in my opinion the strongest and easiest variant to play.
My Team heavily relies on the surprise factor as a second element.
Arceus Water is in my opinion the best Wallbreaker when your opponent do not concider Hydro Z.
1) Lead with Arceus Water and use Magic Coat ; Against Smeargle/Cloyster you can lead pikachu
2) Set up cm with arceus water -> killl groudon/necrozma with Arceus Water
3) Sweep with Xern/Kyogre
Ditto/Def Xern form a defensive core;
Cottonee can stop Arceus CM or Salamence to set up and sweep with encore (Ditto has problems agains those; Mence depending on happiness Return/Frust)
3) Weakness:
The Surprise is pretty much gone :-)
Effort in adaption :
You need to adapt the team by changing cottonee and Pikachu to different pokemon. If you want to have similar success keep in mind their roles when doing so.
My favorite adaption is to use Gothitelle/Dugtrio like in this REPLAY
4) Description for Each Pokemon
Arceus Water :
Best Wallbreaker in the Uber Tier. Kills any relevant pokemon at +1 in a 1on1 which is not trapped by gothitelle.
Calcs:
Important Calcs: (Your opponent will usually switch into those)
Necrozma offense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 354-417 (105.6 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Necrozma Defense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 345-406 (86.6 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Groudon: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Groudon-Primal: 236-278 (58.5 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Groudon pure Offense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon-Primal: 334-394 (97.9 - 115.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Kyogre: +2 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre-Primal in Heavy Rain: 336-396 (96.2 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Kyogre: 200+ SpA Kyogre-Primal Thunder vs. +2 44 HP / 4 SpD Arceus-Water: 140-166 (35.7 - 42.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Good to Know
Xerneas: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 72 HP / 100 SpD Xerneas: 466-549 (113.3 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yveltal: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Yveltal: 433-510 (110.1 - 129.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Arceus: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Fairy: 433-511 (97.5 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Ho-oH: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Ho-Oh: 524-618 (138.2 - 163%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Marshadow: 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Marshadow: 279-328 (86.9 - 102.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO (after Life Orb)
Xerneas
Standard Smogon Set except instead of Z-Geomancy it uses reflect and regular geo.
Checks Marshadow/Salamence/Ekiller/Groudon defensively
Sweeps after Necrozma is gone
Kyogre
The Boss as soon as Groudon is gone. Fast Water Spout in rain at full hp. Used heavily in past generations so no need to show the actualy calcs.
Cottonee
Role: 1) Can switch into Arceus Formes/Salamence and press encore.
2) Endeavor Trap: Switch arceus water to xern on yveltal/mence then double from xern to cottonee expecting your opponent to go necrozma.
If your opponent has no Ghost type 1 pokemon will go down to 5% and probably be killed after seed;
3) Kill 1 pokemon and generate a setup turn: Seed -> Subs 7 times ; Sub -> Encore
Pikachu
The usual Meme set known from https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pikachu-meme-ubers.3635760/
Kills Cloyster/Smeargle Leads ;
"Surprise" Ferrothorn/E-Killer with focus punch on an expected Endeavor/Feint/Nuzzle set
Ditto
Stops your opponent from setting up and sweeping you. Has the widest range of pokemon it stops.
(Best option when both players have rocks up else sash marshadow is stronger)
1) Necrozma Dusk
2) Necrozma Ultra
3) Xerneas
4) Salamence (with the right Happieness)
5) Groudon
6) E-Killer
7) Lunala
8) Blaziken
9) Zygarde (faster dragon tail)
Can also copy your opponents Kyogre to sweep.
As requested by some of you i will publish how to actually pull off some meme strategies. (some would call it fun or troll).
Here comes the second Team Idea:
Hyper Offense: [ SucideLead -> Wallbreaker -> Sweeper ]
Proove that i was Rank 4 with this meme :
Replay 1 Replay 2 Replay3
Have Fun trying to use this on your own :-)
Best Regards
The Team
2) The Game Plan
Hyper Offense is in my opinion the strongest and easiest variant to play.
My Team heavily relies on the surprise factor as a second element.
Arceus Water is in my opinion the best Wallbreaker when your opponent do not concider Hydro Z.
1) Lead with Arceus Water and use Magic Coat ; Against Smeargle/Cloyster you can lead pikachu
2) Set up cm with arceus water -> killl groudon/necrozma with Arceus Water
3) Sweep with Xern/Kyogre
Ditto/Def Xern form a defensive core;
Cottonee can stop Arceus CM or Salamence to set up and sweep with encore (Ditto has problems agains those; Mence depending on happiness Return/Frust)
3) Weakness:
The Surprise is pretty much gone :-)
Effort in adaption :
You need to adapt the team by changing cottonee and Pikachu to different pokemon. If you want to have similar success keep in mind their roles when doing so.
My favorite adaption is to use Gothitelle/Dugtrio like in this REPLAY
4) Description for Each Pokemon
Arceus Water :
Best Wallbreaker in the Uber Tier. Kills any relevant pokemon at +1 in a 1on1 which is not trapped by gothitelle.
Calcs:
Important Calcs: (Your opponent will usually switch into those)
Necrozma offense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 354-417 (105.6 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Necrozma Defense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 345-406 (86.6 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Groudon: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Groudon-Primal: 236-278 (58.5 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Groudon pure Offense: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Groudon-Primal: 334-394 (97.9 - 115.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Kyogre: +2 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre-Primal in Heavy Rain: 336-396 (96.2 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Kyogre: 200+ SpA Kyogre-Primal Thunder vs. +2 44 HP / 4 SpD Arceus-Water: 140-166 (35.7 - 42.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Good to Know
Xerneas: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 72 HP / 100 SpD Xerneas: 466-549 (113.3 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Yveltal: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Yveltal: 433-510 (110.1 - 129.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Arceus: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Vortex (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Fairy: 433-511 (97.5 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Ho-oH: +1 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 104 HP / 0 SpD Ho-Oh: 524-618 (138.2 - 163%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Marshadow: 252+ SpA Arceus-Water Hydro Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Marshadow: 279-328 (86.9 - 102.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO (after Life Orb)
Xerneas
Standard Smogon Set except instead of Z-Geomancy it uses reflect and regular geo.
Checks Marshadow/Salamence/Ekiller/Groudon defensively
Sweeps after Necrozma is gone
Kyogre
The Boss as soon as Groudon is gone. Fast Water Spout in rain at full hp. Used heavily in past generations so no need to show the actualy calcs.
Cottonee
Role: 1) Can switch into Arceus Formes/Salamence and press encore.
2) Endeavor Trap: Switch arceus water to xern on yveltal/mence then double from xern to cottonee expecting your opponent to go necrozma.
If your opponent has no Ghost type 1 pokemon will go down to 5% and probably be killed after seed;
3) Kill 1 pokemon and generate a setup turn: Seed -> Subs 7 times ; Sub -> Encore
Pikachu
The usual Meme set known from https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pikachu-meme-ubers.3635760/
Kills Cloyster/Smeargle Leads ;
"Surprise" Ferrothorn/E-Killer with focus punch on an expected Endeavor/Feint/Nuzzle set
Ditto
Stops your opponent from setting up and sweeping you. Has the widest range of pokemon it stops.
(Best option when both players have rocks up else sash marshadow is stronger)
1) Necrozma Dusk
2) Necrozma Ultra
3) Xerneas
4) Salamence (with the right Happieness)
5) Groudon
6) E-Killer
7) Lunala
8) Blaziken
9) Zygarde (faster dragon tail)
Can also copy your opponents Kyogre to sweep.