Gen 1 Nidoqueen [Mini] [DONE]

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[OVERVIEW]
Although Nidoqueen sports colorful coverage choices and a valued Electric immunity, it's entirely overshadowed by its cousin Nidoking. This is due to Nidoking's higher Attack and Speed, which enables it to outspeed Kabutops and Blastoise, unlike Nidoqueen. While Nidoqueen does have higher defenses, giving it a better matchup over Pokemon like Raticate and the rare Fearow, this is where its benefits end. It still maintains Nidoking's flaws and fails to offer anything truly unique over it other than those specific matchups. Worse, Nidoqueen's lower Attack stat means that it struggles more to achieve benchmarks Nidoking reaches, like 2HKOing Mr. Mime, 3HKOing Clefable, and 3HKOing Wigglytuff. While Nidoqueen can be run alongside Nidoking, such builds are very niche and tend to be more exploitable.

[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Rock Slide
move 4: Blizzard

[SET COMMENTS]
Earthquake 2HKOes Pokemon like Kabutops and Nidoking and functions as Nidoqueen's strongest move in general. Thunderbolt targets Water-types like Blastoise and Kingler while still hitting Flying-types like Moltres and Fearow super effectively. Rock Slide 2HKOes Moltres and Charizard and covers Venomoth. Blizzard 2HKOes Golem and Exeggcute while still maintaining coverage against the aforementioned Flying-types. Nidoqueen's wide movepool includes options like Body Slam, Counter, and Fire Blast, though they are hard to fit over its main moves because Nidoqueen is already strapped for moveslots and needs them to achieve those benchmarks.

Due to Nidoqueen being outclassed by Nidoking, it is best paired alongside it, working together to overwhelm their respective checks and counters. Nidoqueen should ideally be used early- to mid-game as a wallbreaker that enables Nidoking to clean up later on. However, it should be noted that Nidoqueen is limited by its lower Speed in comparison, failing to outpace threats like Blastoise and Kabutops. Much like Nidoking, Nidoqueen would ideally be paired with paralysis spreaders like Mr. Mime, Clefable, and Venomoth. With paralysis support, Nidoqueen can outspeed Pokemon like Kabutops and Mr. Mime. Water-types, like Blastoise and Kingler, can switch into opposing Fire- and Water-type attacks, preserving Nidoqueen's longevity. In turn, they can bait Electric-type attacks and Electrode, giving Nidoqueen safer entry points.

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:rb/Nidoqueen:
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[OVERVIEW]
Although Nidoqueen sports colorful coverage choices and a valued Electric immunity, it's entirely overshadowed by its cousin Nidoking. This is due to Nidoking's higher attacking stats (they actually have the same Special, so just Attack) and Speed, enabling it to outspeed Kabutops and Blastoise, which Nidoqueen cannot. While Nidoqueen does have higher defenses, giving it a better matchup over Pokemon like Raticate and the rare Fearow, it still maintains Nidoking's flaws and fails to offer anything truly unique over it. I think it's important to note that the increased defenses literally only matter in those matchups; the extra bulk doesn't help vs anything else) Worse, Nidoqueen's lower Attack stat means that it struggles more to achieve benchmarks Nidoking reaches could achieve, like 2HKOing Mr. Mime, 3HKOing Clefable, and 3HKOing Wigglytuff. While Nidoqueen can be run alongside Nidoking, such builds are very niche and tend to pronounce weaknesses more.

[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Blizzard
move 4: Rock Slide

[SET COMMENTS]
Earthquake 2HKOs Pokemon like Kabutops and Nidoking, (RC) and functions as its strongest move in general. Thunderbolt targets Water-types like Blastoise and Kingler. Blizzard 2HKOes Golem and Exeggcute while still maintaining coverage against Flying-types. Rock Slide 2HKOes Moltres and Charizard. While Nidoqueen does have a wide movepool, all of its other options are extremely niche and fails to provide any true advantages over Nidoking. (I think we could say a bit more about how these moves actually function and why the overlapping coverage is important, like how Blizzard/Tbolt aren't good enough to cover Zard/Molt; also, I don't think it's bad to mention things like Bslam, Counter, Fblast, they just aren't worthy of a slash and it should be noted how giving up the coverage impacts Nidoqueen. See my Nidoking analysis for examples.)

Due to Nidoqueen being outclassed by Nidoking, it is best paired alongside it, working together to overwhelm their respective checks and counters. (but since Queen is outsped by some of these that Nidoking isn't, this limits it heavily) Nidoqueen should ideally be used early- to mid-game as a wallbreaker that enables Nidoking to clean up later on. Much like Nidoking, Nidoqueen would ideally be paired with paralysis spreaders like Mr. Mime, Clefable, and Venomoth. With paralysis support, Nidoqueen can now outspeed Pokemon it would not have before, like Kabutops and Mr. Mime. Water-types like Blastoise and Kingler can switch into opposing Fire- and Water-type attacks, preserving Nidoqueen's longevity. In turn, they can bait Electric-type attacks and Electrode, giving Nidoqueen safer entry points.
[CREDITS]
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GP 1/1 GP Team done

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:rb/Nidoqueen:
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[OVERVIEW]
Although Nidoqueen sports colorful coverage choices and a valued Electric immunity, it's entirely overshadowed by its cousin Nidoking. This is due to Nidoking's higher Attack and Speed, enabling which enables it to outspeed Kabutops and Blastoise, which unlike Nidoqueen cannot. While Nidoqueen does have higher defenses, giving it a better matchup over Pokemon like Raticate and the rare Fearow, this is where its benefits end. It still maintains Nidoking's flaws and fails to offer anything truly unique over it other than those specific matchups. Worse, Nidoqueen's lower Attack stat means that it struggles more to achieve benchmarks Nidoking reaches, like 2HKOing Mr. Mime, 3HKOing Clefable, and 3HKOing Wigglytuff. While Nidoqueen can be run alongside Nidoking, such builds are very niche and tend to be more exploitable.

[SET]
name: All-Out Attacker
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Rock Slide
move 4: Blizzard

[SET COMMENTS]
Earthquake 2HKOes Pokemon like Kabutops and Nidoking and functions as its Nidoqueen's strongest move in general. Thunderbolt targets Water-types like Blastoise and Kingler, (RC) while still hitting Flying-types like Moltres and Fearow super effectively. Rock Slide 2HKOes Moltres and Charizard, (RC) and covers against Venomoth and Fire-types like Ninetales and Rapidash. Blizzard 2HKOes Golem and Exeggcute while still maintaining coverage against the aforementioned Flying-types. Nidoqueen's wide movepool includes options like Body Slam, Counter, and Fire Blast, though they are hard to fit over its main moves because Nidoqueen is already strapped for coverage moveslots and needs them to achieve those benchmarks.

Due to Nidoqueen being outclassed by Nidoking, it is best paired alongside it, working together to overwhelm their respective checks and counters. Nidoqueen should ideally be used early- to mid-game as a wallbreaker that enables Nidoking to clean up later on. However, it should be noted that Nidoqueen is limited by its lower Speed in comparison, failing to outpace threats like Blastoise and Kabutops. Much like Nidoking, Nidoqueen would ideally be paired with paralysis spreaders like Mr. Mime, Clefable, and Venomoth. With paralysis support, Nidoqueen can now outspeed Pokemon it would not have before, like Kabutops and Mr. Mime. Water-types, (AC) like Blastoise and Kingler, (AC) can switch into opposing Fire- and Water-type attacks, preserving Nidoqueen's longevity. In turn, they can bait Electric-type attacks and Electrode, giving Nidoqueen safer entry points.

[CREDITS]
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