I’ve been waiting for this suspect for quite sometime. Any way’s here’s my thoughts on the suspect. Friendly warning its 1016 words long.
Let me start off by saying that Genesect is a very powerful and scary threat in the current overused metagame. Genesect is the equivalent of the perfect offensive Pokemon have almost 0 flaws and those very few flaws don’t exactly hurt it much. While there’s nothing wrong with being the perfect offensive Pokemon there are several reasons why its too good for OU. I feel like even with some of the new Pokemon such as Toxapex, Heatran, Mega Venusaur and Marowak-Alola its still not enough for Genesect to be called balanced, because Genesect has a set to beat every one of those listed Pokemon (one of the main issues with Genesect). To start my reasoning why Genesect in my eyes Is broken. I’m going to list the pros and cons of Genesect first.
Pros:
-Very high attacking stats on both sides of the spectrum allowing it to go mixed
-Ideal defensive typing on an offensive Pokemon
- Passable bulk to go with its typing
-Huge offensive move pool
-Decently fast
-Can boost Speed to make up for its decent base speed
-Will always have +1 attack or +1 special attack
-Has strong priority
-Can “bluff” certain sets by changing it to a shiny
-Very versatile
-Has a very easy time grabbing momentum
-Has the strongest U-turn in the Overused tier
Cons:
-4x weak to fire type moves (Not like any good Genesect user’s letting it take one anyways)
-Choice sets are often walled by the Pokemon mentioned above (Genesect just U-turn’s out on them)
Other then that Genesect has almost next to no cons which further proves my point it’s the ideal offensive Pokemon. As far as Genesects sets go you have the two main sets which are the most common. These two sets are Choice scarf and choice band. The choice scarf set while not the best set gives you a very fast choice scarfer only out sped by scarf Keldeo (mediocre currently), Scarf latios (gene only fears Hidden Power Fire), and Scarf Pheromosa. Marowak-Alola, Toxapex and Heatran almost always counters this set, Toxapex and Heatran but really Genesect just U-turn’s on them or can surprise Toxapex with Thunderbolt. Again, thanks to Genesects Download ability it always comes in at +1 atk/SpA so it further bolsters its cleaning ability vs teams. Choice band sets have Similar issues but this set is very strong because you can potentially be up against a +2 Atk Genesect assuming it picks up the boost. Having strong priority also helps make up for gene’s speed. Then we have the other sets which can seriously mess up and surprise the opponent because of how they take advantage of Genesects large move pool. These sets include Expert belt, Rock polish, Shift gear and choice specs. Expert belt sets aim to lure in the common Genesect switch ins such as running Hidden Power ground to Marowak-A and Heatran. This set is also capable of bluffing a choice set because it can run U-turn which is one of the bigger issues with Genesect: The unpredictability. Other then that expect belt can run Thundebolt, ice beam, flamethrower and iron head which are standard. Then you have more obscure options such as Giga drain to lure in things such as Quagsire or Rotom-Wash. The rock polish set is one of the better sets currently and has seen a lot of usage on rain teams due to how it can abuse Rain boosted Techno blast water. This set can pretty much break 3 of the more common Genesect switch ins being Toxapex, Heatran and Marowak-A. It also functions outside of rain (naturally without techno blast) and still has decent cleaning potential. The shift gear set is much worse however but still a solid set due to hitting Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn and other steels with blaze kick while Revenge killing things with extreme speed. Then you have the choice specs set. It works in a similar manor to the CB set which gives you the equivalent of +2 SpA assuming you grab the special attack boost. As I mentioned before you never really know what set Genesect is running until it gives away a important move which provides Genesect with a ton of luring and bluff potential so it’s a guessing game until they reveal a move a choice set normally never runs or reveals to not be choice locked. This is in a way like how Landorus-Incarnate was in ORAS but to a much bigger extent. Yes, Genesect has counters and checks but can simply U-turn out vs them or on the incoming switch hitting them for chip damage so you don’t even lose momentum vs them.
With that said I wanted to say my thoughts on one reason for keeping Genesect that I remember someone saying a while ago. This is “Banning Genesect will turn sun and moon into ORAS and bring back more bulky teams”. Banning Genesect wont revert Sun and moon to another ORAS. Its physically impossible for that to happen because we have Pokemon such as Tapu Koko, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Lele and even Tapu Fini and some of the Ultra beasts to deal with all the fat bulky offense and stall teams that were in ORAS. You even have z-move nukes that absolutely destroy Defensive Pokemon such as Clefable. If anything, banning Genesect means that offense wont be as prominent anymore which exactly what happens in a metagame where Genesect is allowed in. Also, keep in mind we still have Pokemon such as Hoopa-Unbound and Greninja.
The reason to ban Genesect is because of how its very strong and really has no bad matchups because if its not in favour of the current situation it just U-turns out. As I mentioned before it’s the Ideal offensive Pokemon and has no real flaws. Having checks and counters might mean you can deal with Genesect but when those checks and counters only deal with specific sets you have a problem because you might find you’re Heatran baited in and removed by an expert belt Genesect for example. I get its fun to use Genesect because of how versatile and strong it is but being fun is not a valid reason to keep something in a tier if its broken. With that said I think Genesect needs to be Banned.
Let me start off by saying that Genesect is a very powerful and scary threat in the current overused metagame. Genesect is the equivalent of the perfect offensive Pokemon have almost 0 flaws and those very few flaws don’t exactly hurt it much. While there’s nothing wrong with being the perfect offensive Pokemon there are several reasons why its too good for OU. I feel like even with some of the new Pokemon such as Toxapex, Heatran, Mega Venusaur and Marowak-Alola its still not enough for Genesect to be called balanced, because Genesect has a set to beat every one of those listed Pokemon (one of the main issues with Genesect). To start my reasoning why Genesect in my eyes Is broken. I’m going to list the pros and cons of Genesect first.
Pros:
-Very high attacking stats on both sides of the spectrum allowing it to go mixed
-Ideal defensive typing on an offensive Pokemon
- Passable bulk to go with its typing
-Huge offensive move pool
-Decently fast
-Can boost Speed to make up for its decent base speed
-Will always have +1 attack or +1 special attack
-Has strong priority
-Can “bluff” certain sets by changing it to a shiny
-Very versatile
-Has a very easy time grabbing momentum
-Has the strongest U-turn in the Overused tier
Cons:
-4x weak to fire type moves (Not like any good Genesect user’s letting it take one anyways)
-Choice sets are often walled by the Pokemon mentioned above (Genesect just U-turn’s out on them)
Other then that Genesect has almost next to no cons which further proves my point it’s the ideal offensive Pokemon. As far as Genesects sets go you have the two main sets which are the most common. These two sets are Choice scarf and choice band. The choice scarf set while not the best set gives you a very fast choice scarfer only out sped by scarf Keldeo (mediocre currently), Scarf latios (gene only fears Hidden Power Fire), and Scarf Pheromosa. Marowak-Alola, Toxapex and Heatran almost always counters this set, Toxapex and Heatran but really Genesect just U-turn’s on them or can surprise Toxapex with Thunderbolt. Again, thanks to Genesects Download ability it always comes in at +1 atk/SpA so it further bolsters its cleaning ability vs teams. Choice band sets have Similar issues but this set is very strong because you can potentially be up against a +2 Atk Genesect assuming it picks up the boost. Having strong priority also helps make up for gene’s speed. Then we have the other sets which can seriously mess up and surprise the opponent because of how they take advantage of Genesects large move pool. These sets include Expert belt, Rock polish, Shift gear and choice specs. Expert belt sets aim to lure in the common Genesect switch ins such as running Hidden Power ground to Marowak-A and Heatran. This set is also capable of bluffing a choice set because it can run U-turn which is one of the bigger issues with Genesect: The unpredictability. Other then that expect belt can run Thundebolt, ice beam, flamethrower and iron head which are standard. Then you have more obscure options such as Giga drain to lure in things such as Quagsire or Rotom-Wash. The rock polish set is one of the better sets currently and has seen a lot of usage on rain teams due to how it can abuse Rain boosted Techno blast water. This set can pretty much break 3 of the more common Genesect switch ins being Toxapex, Heatran and Marowak-A. It also functions outside of rain (naturally without techno blast) and still has decent cleaning potential. The shift gear set is much worse however but still a solid set due to hitting Mega Scizor, Ferrothorn and other steels with blaze kick while Revenge killing things with extreme speed. Then you have the choice specs set. It works in a similar manor to the CB set which gives you the equivalent of +2 SpA assuming you grab the special attack boost. As I mentioned before you never really know what set Genesect is running until it gives away a important move which provides Genesect with a ton of luring and bluff potential so it’s a guessing game until they reveal a move a choice set normally never runs or reveals to not be choice locked. This is in a way like how Landorus-Incarnate was in ORAS but to a much bigger extent. Yes, Genesect has counters and checks but can simply U-turn out vs them or on the incoming switch hitting them for chip damage so you don’t even lose momentum vs them.
With that said I wanted to say my thoughts on one reason for keeping Genesect that I remember someone saying a while ago. This is “Banning Genesect will turn sun and moon into ORAS and bring back more bulky teams”. Banning Genesect wont revert Sun and moon to another ORAS. Its physically impossible for that to happen because we have Pokemon such as Tapu Koko, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Lele and even Tapu Fini and some of the Ultra beasts to deal with all the fat bulky offense and stall teams that were in ORAS. You even have z-move nukes that absolutely destroy Defensive Pokemon such as Clefable. If anything, banning Genesect means that offense wont be as prominent anymore which exactly what happens in a metagame where Genesect is allowed in. Also, keep in mind we still have Pokemon such as Hoopa-Unbound and Greninja.
The reason to ban Genesect is because of how its very strong and really has no bad matchups because if its not in favour of the current situation it just U-turns out. As I mentioned before it’s the Ideal offensive Pokemon and has no real flaws. Having checks and counters might mean you can deal with Genesect but when those checks and counters only deal with specific sets you have a problem because you might find you’re Heatran baited in and removed by an expert belt Genesect for example. I get its fun to use Genesect because of how versatile and strong it is but being fun is not a valid reason to keep something in a tier if its broken. With that said I think Genesect needs to be Banned.