Hey everybody, the OU tiering council has decided to test Zygarde.
Zygarde has been one of the most prominent threats throughout the entirety of the generation. This can be attributed to its bulk, typing, and variety of moveset options, including the infamous thousand arrows. A reliable STAB move with no immunities and scarce resists allows much freedom for Zygarde to customize its moveset. The fact that it only needs one move means the other three can be anything of the myriad possibilities.
This versatility is the main factor potentially pushing Zygarde over the edge of brokenness. It can run Choice Band, Z-Dragon, Z-Ground, Z-Steel, Sub Glare, Sub Toxic, Rest, either of Dragon Dance / Coil, or even both with an Iapapa Berry. Zygarde's potency stems from the fact that these sets have different checks and counters. Tangrowth is probably the best all-purpose answer, but even it can lose to Z-Dragon or Toxic sets. Clefable does well vs Choice Band, but struggles with Z-Ground, Z-Steel, and Glare. Other potential answers are Landorus, Tapu Bulu, Scizor, Tapu Fini, and Gliscor depending on the set. All of this contributes to Zygarde being unpredictable and tough to reliably check. This is particularly threatening in tandem with its great 108/121/95 bulk, which makes revenge killing it a frequently difficult task.
Over the course of the generation, many different sets have risen to prominence and weaved in and out of favor. One way to describe this phenomenon is that Zygarde has a certain main set or two, checks arise to answer these specific sets, and then Zygarde adapts what it uses to beat the common counterplay of a certain metagame. This ability to adapt its set makes Zygarde a potentially overwhelming presence in battle but also in the teambuilder.
All that being said, Zygarde is not quite sweeping every game. While it does have great versatility, some of its sets do have overlapping checks and counters. While it does have solid bulk, its base 100 attack stat is fairly low and this can get in the way of Zygarde's offensive attempts. On paper Zygarde is a behemoth, constantly adapting its set to beat the metagame at a certain point in time to bypass its supposed answers. In practice, one can view the aforementioned argument as exaggerated - that, in reality, checking Zygarde is not so arduous a task.
Nonetheless, neither side of the argument is wholly truthful or factual. Wherever you currently fall on the spectrum, I encourage everyone to go into this suspect with an honest, open mind.
There will be no suspect ladder. Instead, we'll be using the normal OU ladder which will remain open for the duration of the test. A message will pop up at the beginning of ladder games to indicate that the suspect is going on (Tagging Marty to implement, thank you!). Anyone who wishes to participate in this suspect test will use a newly-made alt with a suspect-specific tag to indicate that you are trying to achieve reqs. The requirements for this suspect test are the following:
- All games must be played on the Pokemon Showdown! OU ladder on a new alt with the following format: "OUTX (nickname)" For example, I might register the alt OUTX ABR to ladder with.
- Do NOT impersonate other people in your ladder alt, do NOT use any usernames which are offensive, flame-baiting, or targeting specific users, and do NOT use usernames which could be interpreted as breaking any of the username rules on Pokemon Showdown! Failure to abide to this will result in you being barred from voting in this suspect, and potential infractions.
- To qualify for voting, your alt must play a minimum of 40 games, and achieve a minimum GXE of 82.
The suspect test will last for approximately 2 weeks and will end on Sunday, December 30th.
Use this thread to discuss the suspect and your thoughts on the suspect metagame. If you have any questions, then feel free to contact ABR,
bro fist, Eo Ut Mortus, Finchinator, and/or TDK through a PM. These threads tend to get derailed so please make extra effort to stay on topic. Future suspects need not be discussed in this thread.
Keep in mind that, as usual, it's going to be up to the playerbase to decide the outcome of this test. Good luck and have fun laddering!
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