I get your point, but it was mearly an example. I wasn't directly coparing these threats bar Corvinight. On top of tht, I wasn't talking about singles, hence "In the right scenario". I'm well aware that Melmetal entirely outclasses these threats.Comparing Melmetal to Pokemon like Dracovish, Darmanitan and Corviknight is like comparing apples to oranges, in that Melmetal is good, and those mons are bad. The pokemon you have listed are prominent singles threats, because they can beat mons 1v1. The thing about melmetal is that it beats the entire format 1v2. In particular, Melmetal is bulky. There are mons that should counter it with typing, e.g., Incineroar, Excadrill, Dragapult (fire blast), Blastoise, Gastrodon, and others.
However, Melmetal beats each of these pokemon in practice. Incineroar has to put a ton of work in to combat Melmetal, as incin is supposed to switch into it every time Melmetal is in. The Melmetal player can call this switch in and chip incin each time with High Horsepower, or even just DIB. In return, the Melmetal player can switch their own incin in, and take nothing from flare blitz. Melmetal also tanks a life orb High Horsepower from Excadrill if it needs to and does enough damage back to render Excadrill almost useless for the fight. Melmetal takes ~ 40% from LO fire blast and OHKOS pult back. Melmetal's steel attacks can be redirected by Blastoise, but Melmetal 2shots it through sitrus with any chip with thunder punch. Gastrodon gets flinched and dies because it is bad, and can't even 2hko Melmetal with Earth Power.
In contrast, Dracovish gets outsped and ohkoed by Pult, can't protect, isn't bulky, loses hard to Blastoise, gets eviscerated by opposing Tailwind/TR and other speed control. Similarly, Darmanitan is bad because it does not do enough damage and can get killed quite easily. Corviknight does no damage and is forced to set up. It does not matter that Corviknight cannot be intimidated if corv isn't doing anything with that attack stat anyways, except setting up.
Melmetal is immediately active whenever it enters the field and is never threatened with an OHKO, while it trades favorably with every check.
I agree, but you're entirely missing my point here. Yes, Urhifu imo looks extremely stupid, but my point was we're doing this less than 2 weeks before we're getting another likely drastic meta shift just seem really odd to me.If Urshifu is broken, it will be banned.
It does not fill me with dread because every team has melmetal and I generally enjoy dou.
You are wrong.
That's pretty much how I feel and I've adapted accordingly. Like I said, I Haven't felt overwhelmingly pressured by the thing to the point that not using it feels like my team is being purposefully nerfed or that I'll just auto-lose when one of them shows up. And I'm pretty sure I was speaking from 'personal' experience, so how're you going to just outright tell me I'm wrong here? You're free to didsagree but no need to be a prick, fam lolas a fun example: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8doublesou-1120030700
Melmetal took a Max spatk Togekiss heat wave, an incin overheat, a -1 high horsepower, and took at least 2 kills. Spurrific's opponent forfeit the entire set after this game, in part because melmetal destroyed him so completely.
The teams I'm laddering with for this atm aren't using Melmetal at all nor am I overly prepping for such, just like I've been doing this whole time. So either everyone I've faced is braindead or I'm clearly missing something here. I won't deny its immensely annoying to deal with at times and if played well, and have lost to Melmetal a couple times (Though I've never been put down quite THAT severely), but like I said in my first post, its not like we haven't seen power like or even beyond Melmetal's level before.
From what I see, I do wonder why it wasn't just quickbanned with how gross everyone feels about it and how much of a wash this suspect is shaping up to be (though I could say that about a lot of things).
I'm still hoping that it can possibly get a second look post-DLC, because I do feel like it could be handled a bit more easily. But This round seems
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