Free chess/UU tutoring for UU players Neigh. Perf.
Regarding how strong Latias is, I've talked about one set I think is broken in this post where I refer to other posts that people made already. In short, Latias constrains building and can get past too many of its checks and counters too easily. I'm cherrypicking one of my ladder wins here with Latias but even so, it shows how Latias can get past its checks: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8uu-1436237800-lojicnmd1ankule28d4luebby5bczznpw. Again, this is a best case scenario for Latias but that it is achieveable against nominally good Latias checks like Aegislash, disturbs me.
So moving on from Latias itself, the question is what action to take. We were given these four options:
1) Latias: Quickban
2) Latias: Quickban into immediate retest (makes it unusable in SCL/Majors while still giving it a suspect test)
3) Latias: Suspect test
4) Latias: Do not ban
I ended up choosing option 2) as the first choice and option 3) as the second choice.
All of this is removed from the substance of Latias in the tier, I think the argument has already been made that Latias is suspect worthy because it's broken and overly constrains the builder. I don't believe it's possible to make a good bulky offense/balance that isn't weak to a top threat which disturbs me but understand if people think that's okay or even inaccurate.
I really wanted to vote for 3) and kind of just say that the council doesn't really deserve two bites at this apple; why are they allowed to vote twice?
Well the obvious response to that question is, now we have more knowledge, two weeks of Latias in our tier.
And I couldn't think of any good comeback to that response, it's just how our system works, if we make quick bans and unbans, we have to acknowledge sometimes we will regret our decisions because we didn't have enough experience. Other benefits of the quick ban is that I believe its what SCL and majors players will want, it will make those tournaments better, and if 3) wins, I want to send a sign to UU players that the experienced players think Latias is broken.
In my mind, the only logical way to vote 3) as a first option is that you don't think Latias is broken but you want to give the public a chance. Or that you do think Latias is broken, but want to mess with SCL and majors players.
However, I did vote 3) as a second option, not because of the reasons above, but because I believe we need to involve the public in this, there's really no reason not to as the time for pure council votes is over - we should only do standalone council votes after tier shifts or when something blatant and unexpected develops (like Arctozolt teams developing very much out of the blue).
Thus, my voting option is to quick ban Latias but only if we get a suspect test afterwards. Otherwise, I rather just do a regular suspect test.