np: XY UU Stage 0 - I Lived

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Yes and no. While Salamence's presence provides a stiff competition for all dragons in UU, offensively and defensively, however it M-ampharos is a great pivot by providing support from both sides of the spectrum. Personally I cant wait to go home and test a Hyper offensive dragon team.

Yeah I'm not denying that it's a good pivot. If I recall correctly (it was super late this morning), EonX (or someone else who made a good point bout sheep) was talking about the Physically Defensive set. Going straight-up defensive imo is not as effective as the pre-Salamence era. The pivot set functions perfectly fine.
 
last vote to ban stuff just took place. here are the results:

hawlucha - yyyyyyyyyy
houndoominite - yyyyyy
salamence - yyyyyyyy
magnezone - yyyyyyy
haxorus - yyyyyyyyy
hydreigon - yyyyyyy
crawdaunt - yyyyyyyyyy
klefki - yyyyyyyyy
swagger - yyyyyyyyyyy
cloyster - y
aggronite - y
blastoiseite - y
mienshao - yyyy
tornadus-t - yyyy
scald - y
mew - y
knock off - yyyy
suicune - y
starmie - y

anything with 6 or more y's is now BL (so hawlucha through swagger LOL fuck OU i banned swagger first lol!). anyway, our first retest is going to be thundurus-t. weavile after that.

RIP houndog :(

oh also, we're an official metagame starting right now.

that is all. new np thread coming up.
 
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