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Official MLB 2012 Season Thread
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Going to say TB won that trade, just because of them gaining Wil Myers and other prospects, while still having Price, Helickson, and others in that rotation.
KC's Rotation
1- Shields
2- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
3- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
4- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
5- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
Still shaky if you ask me, and the Royals could have used Myers in RF over Francoeur, who had a -WAR last season.
I'm just saying, but unless these prospects become MAJOR busts, TB won hands down, esp since the major piece of this trade is hitting his age 31 season next year.
KC's Rotation
1- Shields
2- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
3- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
4- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
5- Guthrie / Santana / Chen / Davis
Still shaky if you ask me, and the Royals could have used Myers in RF over Francoeur, who had a -WAR last season.
I'm just saying, but unless these prospects become MAJOR busts, TB won hands down, esp since the major piece of this trade is hitting his age 31 season next year.
"This move solidifies the Royals as a win-now franchise. However, from here, it just doesn’t look like they have a good enough team to actually win now. If the 2013 Royals follow the 2008 Mariners path to self destruction, this might be the last roster Dayton Moore ever gets to build.
If you’re wondering about this trade from the Rays perspective, they’re now a little worse than they were before this trade, but their winter isn’t over. They’ll replace Shields and Davis with worse pitchers, but they’re also freeing up roughly $10 million in salary, so if they reallocate that money to buy a +2 win player elsewhere — they still have a glaring hole at DH — then they very well might end up about as good overall as they would have been had they kept Shields. And, of course, they now control Myers rights for the next six years, and they have Odorizzi to maintain their pitching depth, and they got a couple of potential long term assets in Montgomery and Leonard for their trouble. This is just another terrific move by the Rays, pushing their present talent marginally down in order to provide a huge long term boost and keep the team flush with premium young talent.
Even though their team got worse in the present, Rays fans have to be thrilled with this trade. And even though their club got better in the present, Royals fans should be in mourning, because even after this exchange, the Rays are still the team with a better chance of contending in 2013, and now they’ve cemented a brighter future for themselves as well."
Just a bit of Dave Cameron's writeup that people should read.
If you’re wondering about this trade from the Rays perspective, they’re now a little worse than they were before this trade, but their winter isn’t over. They’ll replace Shields and Davis with worse pitchers, but they’re also freeing up roughly $10 million in salary, so if they reallocate that money to buy a +2 win player elsewhere — they still have a glaring hole at DH — then they very well might end up about as good overall as they would have been had they kept Shields. And, of course, they now control Myers rights for the next six years, and they have Odorizzi to maintain their pitching depth, and they got a couple of potential long term assets in Montgomery and Leonard for their trouble. This is just another terrific move by the Rays, pushing their present talent marginally down in order to provide a huge long term boost and keep the team flush with premium young talent.
Even though their team got worse in the present, Rays fans have to be thrilled with this trade. And even though their club got better in the present, Royals fans should be in mourning, because even after this exchange, the Rays are still the team with a better chance of contending in 2013, and now they’ve cemented a brighter future for themselves as well."
Just a bit of Dave Cameron's writeup that people should read.
drcossack
I'm everywhere, you ain't never there
Oh, I agree. Joe Maddon is a fucking genius, but how stupid does the Royals front office have to be? This is oddly reminiscent of a certain Phillies trade (albeit this KC/TB one is MUCH worse on the giving end) from 2011 that I still want to kill Ruben Amaro for...
And RedSox fans rioted in the streets this day.
But seriously, why did we spend 12 mil on Youk when we could have kept Chavez for only 3 mil, unless we REALLY wanted to piss of BoSox fans
Wow. Pujols, Trout and Hamilton? Damn...
drcossack
I'm everywhere, you ain't never there
I'm going to laugh my ass off when the Angels fail to make the playoffs again in 2013. Big name signings/spending a shitload worked so well for them, the Dodgers, and the Marlins in 2012...
I do have to wonder what the Angels saw in Hamilton though, and why other GM's were apparently lukewarm about signing him (though the reasons for the latter are well known...)
I do have to wonder what the Angels saw in Hamilton though, and why other GM's were apparently lukewarm about signing him (though the reasons for the latter are well known...)
iono why people are so anti big signings. A lot of those players posted good value, actually, and teammates let them down. (granted obvious exceptions being like Heath Bell). short term they usually aren't bad.
realistically though, the Angels are just treading water. Hunter was great last year, and a better fielder than Hamilton, so it's not that much. They really need to win now, because they're gonna be handcuffed come 2016 financially.. (I say this moreso because they'll have so many people making so much money that they won't not be able to play them)
realistically though, the Angels are just treading water. Hunter was great last year, and a better fielder than Hamilton, so it's not that much. They really need to win now, because they're gonna be handcuffed come 2016 financially.. (I say this moreso because they'll have so many people making so much money that they won't not be able to play them)
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Stallion and his little sister's reaction to Josh Hamilton leaving Texas
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Stallion and his little sister's reaction to Josh Hamilton leaving Texas
I'll be interested to see how Choo handles moving back to CF, especially at Great American Ballpark. Plus, he's only guaranteed for one year, with his agent claiming that Choo will not sign an extension prior to testing the open market. It's a bit risky, given Stubbs' potential if he can ever fully harness his power and speed potential.
Looks like R.A. Dickey could be going to the Blue Jays for a deal centered around Travis D'Arnaud
I'm not too mad about this, because they're gonna get a 3 year extension on Dickey probably, and d'Arnaud will have to play amazingly to be worth more than 4 years of Dickey. It just seems kinda risky that they'd send two top prospects. I understand why the did it, the price just seems high though.
Looks like I need to change my avatar. :(
Good luck in Canada Dickey
Good luck in Canada Dickey
As a Mets fan I will miss Dickey but I think we did good with the prospects we got back. I will definitely be rooting for the Blue Jays this year
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/r-a-dickey-and-the-price-of-a-window/#more-108266
good read. Makes me feel a bit better.
good read. Makes me feel a bit better.