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Official NBA 2010-11 Season Thread
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I was a bit shocked when they gave up two of their SF's and a pretty good PG for Carmelo, but whatever. The Knicks have a great team now, the NBA should be fun come playoff time. Might see a few upsets.
Everyone keeps saying that but that wasnt going to happen... With the new CBA almost guaranteed to lower max contracts he was going to lose out on a ton of money and he probably would've just resignedd with Denver if nothing wouldve worked out
The Jazz send D-Will to the Nets. Fuck... well, at least they have a lottery pick, a point guard, and two upcoming lottery picks.
What the hell was that trade? I don't think that makes sense for the Nets at all. A number 2 overall pick, a rising PG who is desired around the league, and two 1st round picks for a guy who can't even sign an extension until after this CBA nonsense is resolved? And Deron is fucked. Can't opt out until after next season so he'll basically become one of the first big names to be bitched by the very likely severe reduction in the cap.
They still have a shot at making the 7th or 8th seed. The Nuggets will need time to get half their roster comfortable with George Karl's plays. I think Harris and Favors can be plugged right into the system. Their problem in New Jersey was not playing hard enough, something that before this year was never a question for the Jazz.
Attention everyone: Favors sucks..... the word potential is killing the NBA... Harris has pretty much hit his ceiling talent wise, and Favors is completely overrated based on potential. He was in college and now the same things happening in the NBA just because he was a top high school prospect. From the Jazz's standpoint this trade doesnt really make sense. They already have decent height with Jefferson/Milsap/Okur, and the Nets' lottery pick this year wont do much as this draft is going to be incredibly weak in terms of depth. Besides all that, i cant wait til the Nets move to Brooklyn now since the Nets actually have a player worth watching
I am happy that one of my favorite players will be playing in my local market. From what I've seen, Williams was really shocked and upset about the trade. There is no telling if he will re-sign with them. At least they have a better part of two years to convince him.
Holy shit dude, I hadn't checked ESPN yet and then I see this. Wow I can't believe the Jazz traded the potential franchise player.
They have them for at least 2, and with the chance of the new CBA including a franchise tag they could technically have him for as long as they want after that, and in those 2 years it could be easy to convince someone hes going to be the face of a franchise with parts for the future playing in Brooklyn where its basically going to always sell out just like MSG
Always sell out? Do the Mets always sell out? I'll grant that he might want to be the face of the franchise, but the franchise around him has to be solid. All I'm saying is he might not want to stick it out through the formative years of the Brooklyn Nets while he's in his prime. Superstars rarely want to commit their prime years to anything less than an ideal situation, which is probably where the Nets will be at least at the start.
Besides, the "franchise tag" has to 1) be approved first and 2) be different from the NFL one if they were going to keep using it for an extended period of time.
brandan wright is an underrated pickup for the nets to go along with d-will
i think the former will outperform favours and they both play the same position.
overall, ballsy deal on both ends. i think both teams made high risk high reward moves, but ultimately the nets did get the best player in the deal. only idiots are g-state. way to go giving up your number one pick for an expiring contract, even though gudzric is expiring soon himself
losing that first round pick hurts the nets though, considering it'll probably be a high pick
i think the former will outperform favours and they both play the same position.
overall, ballsy deal on both ends. i think both teams made high risk high reward moves, but ultimately the nets did get the best player in the deal. only idiots are g-state. way to go giving up your number one pick for an expiring contract, even though gudzric is expiring soon himself
losing that first round pick hurts the nets though, considering it'll probably be a high pick
Baseball and Basketball are two completely different sports.... an NBA arena holds around 18-20 thousand while a baseball stadium holds at least double.... and NY is a BASKETBALL CITY... MSG was selling out even after 8 bad years of the Isiah Era, and you're looking at a decent team coming to Brooklyn to start off while the arena itself is going to be a spot for everyone to go to. Also the only superstars who have wanted to commit themselves to the ideal situation were only the ones that bolted to Miami this season... Mind explaining to me why KG wasted his prime years in Minnesota if the ideal situation would've been to sign to a winner that is either in a warm weather town or somewhere near a beach? Or why Kobe stayed on a tanking LA team
Ok.. NY is a baseball OR a basketball city depending on who you ask. You'll find just as many if not more Yankee/Mets fans walking around the streets. MSG was selling out because it was MSG and because it's in the heart of Manhattan. No matter how bad the team was, it was still a hot thing to be seen/go to a Knicks game at the Garden. Garnett was drafted in '95 and he agreed to a contract extension with Minnesota during the 97-98 season because 1) They had some promise, especially with a young not-crazy Marbury and 2) They offered a then unheard of 6 year $126 million dollar extension. You really think he would've turned his back on 6 years $126 mil? Kobe bitched and moaned and was ready to bolt until they got some superstar talent so you can't really use that example either.
Now, I'm not dumping on the Nets. They have a young team with some building blocks and promise, but is one of the few superstars in the league going to go through the transition of moving to a new city, with a young/inexperienced team in his prime while everyone with the money is going to be throwing max contracts his way? Ask Kevin Durant if he would've picked to go through moving from Seattle to OKC. It's turned out well for him but I bet he wouldn't have picked it if he could. That's all I'm saying.
Who do you talk to lol... I live here too in NY, if you think baseball is anywhere as near as prized as basketball is here then you must be blind to everything thats going on around you. Talent on Garnett's team? Can you even name anybody else from that team besides Marbury that showed any sign of promise? And no, Kobe signed the extension before superstar talent arrived... I think you are quick to forget he only began to bitch when his second best player was Chris Mihm/Smush Parker and he either wanted talent or wanted to be shipped himself. By the way Durant had talent around him and he was very young himself when they made the move from Seattle... He not only would've looked incredibly stupid if he made a big deal about the move but he could also be losing an opportunity to be a star on a team of young developing players when he had Green and Westbrook who are just as young as he is
I said they had promise, which is true considering they made the playoffs for the first time in their franchise's history. And I'm not saying he would've/should've made a big deal to get shipped out. I'm saying if he had his choice, what team would he have picked? Probably not Seattle. And yeah, Kobe signed the extension beforehand, but if he didn't get that solid #2 superstar, he would've bitched his way out of L.A. You think they would've kept him with how public he was with his distaste for the team as it was at that time? Hell no
Yes I do, because they really only got that number 2 superstar half way through the 07-08 season, and by then LA was already doing good with Bynum having a career year. The only reason they added a number 2 was because Bynum went down for the year and were in need of big man, otherwise without that happening I doubt you see Gasol in LA
Baseball is not as prized in New York...what because they won too much? The Yankees are the best team in a sport's history, I am pretty sure everyone smart appreciates that more than the Knicks...it would be like if people in Dallas cared about the Mavericks or Rangers more than the Cowboys, and sure if you only like one sport or are obsessed with one sport over the other, okay whatever....baseball love is not exactly sky high, but after a decade with an awful team why would there be more hardcore Knicks than Yankees fans right now? I am obviously not from New York, so have fun dismissing me out of hand over that, but I do not think there is any way people care about the Knicks the most, just like not many people probably care about the Pistons more than the Red Wings in Detroit or Penguins more than the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Then again "NFL is king", so maybe more people like the Jets+Giants by now in New York (even though both are New Jersey teams...).
That literally means nothing here lol.... Winning means everything? I think youre missing the point this is a BASKETBALL city... No matter how bad the Knicks were it was still always basketball > baseball for the simple fact that people care more about basketball here than any other sport we have here. I dont think you realize that if the Yankees were bad they'd probably fall into the abysmal the Mets were in for a while, but when the Knicks were a complete disaster they still stayed relevant here
You can claim that all you want, since no one can easily disprove it. If there were a good way to objectively disprove it I would readily bet a lot of money on the Yankees and Giants being far more popular (the Giants especially). Not sure about the Jets, but probably them too....no matter how much you like the Knicks, or other people desperate for a good time with basketball want to like the Knicks, that does not mean it is reality.
I am finding it hard to believe the Celtics are trading Perkins. I know they are getting a big in return, but I still think Perkins was a much better fit in Boston. The upside is that they also get Jeff Green. He'll give the bench a huge punch.