Project OM Mashup Megathread

:Weezing-Galar::Ninetales-Alola::Raichu: Alphabet Soup Update :Raichu-Alola::Volbeat::Timburr:

  • Neutralizing Gas is just a better Mold Breaker in Soup, at the cost of only being able to inherit from Weezing or Koffing. Mold Breaker by itself is already incredibly strong in Soup, with many Pokemon running Ability Shield. However, Ability Shields do not prevent Mold Breaker. Mold Breaker is mainly used on offensive mon to prevent defensive abilities from halting a sweep.
:ss/Numel::weezing:
60/154/118/164/116/92 (704 BST)
Weezing (Numel) @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- No Retreat
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Nasty Plot/Night Daze/Ancient Power

This is the main set for Neutralizing Gas. Being able to bypass Ice Scales and Well Baked Body are very useful tools.

  • Alolan Ninetales is very good at everything it commonly does. Speedy utility. Aurora Veil and Nuzzle are able to greatly improve the ability to set up for the rest of Tales's team. Regen pivot. With snow now boosting defense, Tales is suprisingly resilient against physical and special attacks. Being able to immediately set up Veil also makes it last longer. While not consistent, Snow Cloak has made Alola Tales a more annoying with dodging moves that would take it out of the game every time, like Trick. Freeze Dry is also good because it can 2hko a lot of mons. Ninetales also enables snow sweepers, like Sandshrew or anything that wants Slush Rush.
:ss/Ninetales-Alola::Tornadus-Therian:
76/106/111/125/143/162 (720 BST)
Tornadus-Therian (Ninetales-Alola) @ Light Clay
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nuzzle
- Volt Switch
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry/Blizzard

  • As I've said in previous posts, the Raichu bros are the same mon more or less. Kanto is more of utility by being able to set up Electric Terrain. Alola has Speed and the ability to hit on the physical side with STAB Psystrike (although Ice Scales still makes Psystrike weaker) and can outspeed pretty much anything in Electric Terrain.
:ss/Raichu-Alola::Iron Bundle::Basculegion-F:
Iron Bundle/Basculegion-F (Raichu-Alola) @ Life Orb/Heavy Duty Boots
60/128/91/151/123/173 (726 BST)
60/131/79/145/126/158 (699 BST)
Ability: Quark Drive/Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rising Voltage
- Nasty Plot
- Psystrike
- Volt Switch/Parabolic Charge/Surf

:ss/Raichu::Miraidon:
60/135/94/147/129/172 (737 BST)
Raichu @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Life Orb
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rising Voltage
- Nasty Plot
- Volt Switch/Parabolic Charge
- Surf/Psystrike/Grass Knot

  • Tail Glow

  • Timburr is maybe the strongest physical threat in Soup. Just like Conk in Pokebilities, it has Iron Fist, Guts, and Sheer Force. This means it has a 1.5x boost to its physical attack (when Neutralizing Gas isn't present), a 1.2x boost to punching moves like Mach Punch and Drain Punch, and a 1.3x due to Sheer Force (Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Thunderous Kick). Timburr getting access to T moves as well is very helpful. Tidy Up allows Timburr!Ursaring to outspeed most things after just one boost, even with a measly 92 speed. It's other usual moves are Drain Punch, Thunder Punch, and Knock Off/Mach Punch. Mach Punch is usually for Timburr!Haxorus, for hitting through defensive abilities like Fur Coat and Fluffy. Timburr on a team automatically requires offensive play to overcome.
:ss/Timburr::Ursaring:
75/214/143/75/97/92 (696 BST)
Ursaring (Timburr) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Quick Feet
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Tidy Up
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off

:ss/Timburr::Haxorus:
75/218/147/72/96/103 (711 BST)
Haxorus (Timburr) @ Flame Orb
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Tidy Up/Bulk Up
- Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch

NGasATalesRaichuAlolachuTail GlowTimburrBelly Drum
BBPRestrictDNBDNBDNBAbstainDNBUnban, Restrict
TTLTRestrictDNB"Abtain""Abtain"DNBBanUnban, Restrict
We UpAbstainAbstainAbstainAbstainAbstainDNBUnban, Restrict
ResultRestrictDNBDNBDNBDNBDNBUnban, Restrict

Restricted Neutralizing Gas, Belly Drum unbanned and restricted
 
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Camove Chaos Update
:ss/Xurkitree:
Xurkitree is a long known threat of Camove. 2HKO'ing Eviolite Chansey at +2 with Z-Hydro Vortex, strong priority in Water Shuriken, and Healing in its powerful Oblivion Wing, on top of being able to snowball after it kills whatever can wall it, which is not very much.
Xurkitree
Banded Body PressBan
ClasBan
TTLTBan
DasocksAbstain
EggsBan
THRDNB
Gamer but swagAbstain
ResultBAN (4-1)

This long standing menace is gone. Rejoice.
 
:Annihilape::Frosmoth::Ninetales-Alola::Ribombee:Alphabet Soup Update:Hippopotas::Vulpix-Alola::Volbeat::Timburr:

  • Remember Annihilape in OU? A Rage Fist that got stronger and stronger as the game went on, being able to heal completely and get rid of status conditions with Rest. Bulking Up so it lasted forever, and passively healing itself with Leftovers and Drain Punch. Annihilape in Soup is a direct upgrade. It receives Milk Drink and Moonlight from Mankey, allowing it to have reliable healing along the course of the game. This is bolstered by the fact that it always fuses with Garganacl, removing it's Ghost weakness and ability to be statused at all, outside of Mold Breaker/Mycelium Might. One note is that Purifying Salt is something that makes it, not a spin blocker, but a spin deterrent. Annihilape still has Defiant, meaning taking a Defog gives Annihilape a free +2 attack. It still blocks the way more common Rapid Spin, but the equally common Mortal Spin doesn't status Annihilape, but it does give it a +50 to Rage Fist. Bulk Up, Rage Fist, and Drain Punch are all still mainstays of its moveset that allow it to sit around and eat attacks.
:ss/Annihilape::garganacl:
110/157/124/68/125/111 (695 BST)
Garganacl (Annihilape) @ Leftovers
Ability: Purifying Salt
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Rage Fist
- Drain Punch
- Milk Drink
- Bulk Up

  • Ice Scales is the main element of Alphabet Soup that makes it as bulky as it is. Notably, this just reduces the damage taken by special moves, not doubling Special Defense. This means that Psyshock and Psystrike still do half damage and Mold Breaker ignores it. Notable things to break Ice Scales is Tail Glow, Toxic, Salt Cure, Mold Breaker, physical attackers, and Beads of Ruin. The more of these you have on a mon, the harder it is for Ice Scales to wall. But that also depends on the mon with Ice Scales. Unless you're using Frosmoth and/or Snom, your only way of getting Ice Scales is 1 mon. Your best chance of breaking through an Ice Scales User is by wearing it down throughout the game.
:ss/Snorlax::frosmoth:
160/143/90/106/149/50 (698 BST)
Frosmoth (Snorlax) @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Scales
Tera Type: normal
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stone Axe/Spikes/Magma Storm/Sticky Web
- Mortal Spin/Matcha Gotcha/Scald
- Shore Up/Slack Off/Soft-Boiled/Milk Drink/Moonlight/Morning Sun/Synthesis
- Salt Cure

  • see previous post
:ss/Ninetales-Alola::Tornadus-Therian:
76/106/111/125/143/162 (720 BST)
Tornadus-Therian (Ninetales-Alola) @ Light Clay
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: ice
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nuzzle
- Volt Switch
- Aurora Veil
- Freeze-Dry/Blizzard

  • We know what sticky webs does. Speed control.
:ss/Jumpluff::Klefki:
75/95/117/95/150/168 (700 BST)
Klefki (Jumpluff) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Strength Sap
- Sticky Web
- Stone Axe/Salt Cure/Spikes
- U-turn

  • Sand Rush and Sand Stream are banned in many Pokebilities-based metagames for setting sand and doubling speed. In Alphabet Soup, it's a bit more balanced for you having to fuse with a Sand Rush/Sand Stream mon. Hippopotas is the best of them due to also having Sand Force and access to Headlong Rush and Head Smash.
:ss/Hippopotas-f::Lycanroc:
68/174/174/90/101/92 (699 BST)
Lycanroc (Hippopotas) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Rush
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Headlong Rush
- Head Smash
- Horn Leech/Slack Off
- Howl
  • Snow Warning and Snow Veil. Due to this combo only being legal on Ice types, it gives 1.5x Defense and 1.25x Evasion. Slush Rush is also on many mons with Snow Cloak, doubling speed in many cases. This combination is naturally legal on Alolatales and Vulpix-A. This is really a question of is the free Evasion really fair?
  • see previous post
  • see previous post
BBPTTLTWe UpResult
AnnihilapeBanAbstainBanBan 2-0
Ice ScalesDNBDNBAbstainDNB 2-0
Ninetales AlolaDNBDNBDNBDNB 3-0
Sticky WebsRestrictDNRDNRDNR 2-1
Sand Stream+Sand RushDNBDNBDNBDNB 3-0
Snow Warning+Snow CloakBanBanDNBBan 2-1
Tail GlowDNBDNBDNBDNB 3-0
TimburrBanBanAbstainBan 2-0
Say goodbye to Timburr, Annihilape, and Snow Warning+Snow Cloak.
:ss/Timburr::ss/Annihilape::ss/Ninetales-Alola::ss/Vulpix-Alola:
 
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AAA Ubers Hub
What is AAA Ubers?
AAA Ubers is a "mashup" of Almost Any Ability, where the power level is higher -- threats like Arceus-Fairy and Slaking roam free!

Sample sets:
:sv/slaking:
Slaking @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Bulk Up
- Facade
- Protect
- Knock Off / Earthquake

This set takes advantage of Slaking's high natural physical bulk and instead invests in Special Defense which, in conjunction with Bulk Up increasing its already solid Physical Defense and Poison Heal's consistent recovery, makes Slaking a pain to OHKO and a deadly bulky booster.

:sv/arceus-fairy:
Arceus-Fairy @ Life Orb / Pixie Plate
Ability: Pixilate
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Recover
-ate Speed is a terrifying combo and FairyCeus is here to take advantage of that. With Swords Dance in its disposal, it shreds through offensive teams like butter and is a terrifying late-game cleaner.

:sv/arceus-water:
Arceus-Water @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Surf
- Thunder Wave / Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
Ice Scales WaterCeus checks a variety of checks like Dragon's Maw Eternatus and Calm Mind Flutter Mane while being a decent Stealth Rock setter.

Banlist:
Calyrex-Shadow
Arena Trap, Comatose, Contrary, Gorilla Tactics, Huge Power, Illusion, Imposter, Innards Out, Moody, Neutralizing Gas, Parental Bond, Pure Power, Shadow Tag, Simple, Stakeout, Speed Boost, Water Bubble, Wonder Guard
Baton Pass

Standard OMs, Sleep Move Clause, !Obtainable Abilities, Ability Clause = 1, Terastal Clause

Codes:
/challenge [Gen 9] Anything Goes@@@Standard OMs,Sleep Moves Clause,!Obtainable Abilities,Ability Clause = 1,Terastal Clause,-Arena Trap,-Comatose,-Contrary,-Gorilla Tactics,-Huge Power,-Illusion,-Imposter, -Innards Out,-Moody,-Neutralizing Gas,-Parental Bond,-Pure Power,-Shadow Tag,-Simple,-Stakeout,-Speed Boost,-Water Bubble,-Wonder Guard,-Calyrex-Shadow,-Baton Pass
/tour new [Gen 9] Anything Goes,elim,,,[Gen 9] Ubers AAA
/tour rules Standard OMs,Sleep Moves Clause,!Obtainable Abilities,Ability Clause = 1,Terastal Clause,-Arena Trap,-Comatose,-Contrary,-Gorilla Tactics,-Huge Power,-Illusion,-Imposter, -Innards Out,-Moody,-Neutralizing Gas,-Parental Bond,-Pure Power,-Shadow Tag,-Simple,-Stakeout,-Speed Boost,-Water Bubble,-Wonder Guard,-Calyrex-Shadow,-Baton Pass
/tour autostart 7
/tour autodq 4

Council:
:necrozma-ultra: cat :necrozma-ultra:
:honchkrow: LordBox :honchkrow:
:yanmega: Kinetic1000 :yanmega:

TBD
TBD
 
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I just wanted to come here to say that the SP rule change excites me a lot. I think it's reasonable to say we could expect new omms to pop out of it, and others revolutionized.

GGSP and the less populat Fotfsp now can benefit from so many more mons being legal and benefitting from their abilities, obviously.

Pokesp was dismissed for a long time as there was no way to have a Pokemon share something minor while benefitting from it's banned ability, and there are a lot of abilities that would need to be banned. Now we can actually benefit from things like Gliscor sharing Hyper Cutter, Toxapex sharing Merciless, Azumarill sharing Sap Sipper. There's also the possibility of SPMnm, now that we can prevent things like Swift Swim+Drizzle and Magic Bounce and everything getting Mold Breaker, which almost defeats the point of Shared Power.

I'm really happy about this change, and I think it shows a lot of potential for OMMs.
 
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from a mashup where we give shiny rocks to babies for our enjoyment...
:Buizel:LC Mix and Mega has RESTRICTED Buizel and Gligar!:Gligar:
ClasYoru97Roldski32Result
BuizelBANBANAbstain2-0-1 BAN
GligarBANBANBAN3-0-0 BAN
Voltorb-HDNBDNBAbstain0-2-1 NO BAN

Additionally, while Voltorb-H was voted on, it did not receive any Ban votes, and likely will be revisited again at some point in the future.
 
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Frantic Fusions Ubers (FFU) Hub
:persian-alola::sv/arceus-fairy::sv/slaking::breloom:

What is Frantic Fusions?
Nickname a Pokemon after another to gain 1/4 of its base stats (excluding HP) and access to its ability pool.

What is Frantic Fusions Ubers?
This mashup expands upon Frantic Fusions with a greater cast of available Pokemon and abilities not seen in standard play.

Sample Sets:
:sv/slaking::breloom:

Fused Stats: 150 HP / 192 Atk / 120 Def / 110 SpA / 80 SpD / 117 Spe
Breloom (Slaking) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 28 HP / 228 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Facade
- Knock Off
- Bulk Up
- Slack Off / Protect

Slaking takes on Breloom's Poison Heal and Atk donation and puts it to work as a fearsome and extremely durable wallbreaker and stallbreaker.

:sv/miraidon::mewtwo:
Fused Stats: 100 HP / 112 Atk / 122 Def / 173 SpA / 137 SpD / 167 Spe
Mewtwo (Miraidon) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Overheat
- U-turn

Miraidon fuses with Mewtwo to become the actual ultimate lifeform, dropping EDrifts and Dracos alike with reckless abandon.

Banlist:
:calyrex-shadow:Calyrex-Shadow
:ditto:Ditto
:komala:Komala
:Numel:Numel
:dugtrio:Arena Trap
:lurantis:Contrary
:azumarill:Huge Power
:zoroark:Illusion
:magnezone:Magnet Pull
:Scovillain:Moody
:Weezing:Neutralizing Gas
:Medicham:Pure Power
:Gothitelle:Shadow Tag
:yanmega:Speed Boost
:Gumshoos:Stakeout
Baton Pass
:chesto berry:Sleep Moves Clause
:normal gem: Terastal Clause

Codes:
/tour new gen9anythinggoes,elim,,,[Gen 9] Frantic Fusions Ubers
/tour rules Frantic Fusions Mod, Sleep Moves Clause, Standard OMs, !Obtainable Abilities, !Nickname Clause, Terastal Clause, -Calyrex-Shadow, -Ditto, -Komala, -Numel, -Arena Trap, -Contrary, -Huge Power, -Illusion, -Magnet Pull, -Moody, -Neutralizing Gas, -Pure Power,-Shadow Tag, -Speed Boost, -Stakeout, -Baton Pass
/tour autostart 10
/tour autodq 7
/chall anythinggoes @@@ Frantic Fusions Mod, Sleep Moves Clause, Standard OMs, !Obtainable Abilities, !Nickname Clause, -CAP, -Past, Terastal Clause, -Calyrex-Shadow, -Ditto, -Komala, -Numel, -Arena Trap, -Contrary, -Huge Power, -Illusion, -Magnet Pull, -Moody, -Neutralizing Gas, -Pure Power,-Shadow Tag, -Speed Boost, -Stakeout, -Baton Pass


Council:
:eternatus:Ataki
:ting-lu:Binacle Pinnacle
:magearna:oaklies
:dialga:TaxFraud
:arcanine-hisui:Ziek_Freek

Watchlist:
:slaking:Slaking - Whenever Slaking is freed from the shackles of Truant, it's a major threat. As mentioned above, the nearly peerless durability and power of Slaking (most commonly fused with Breloom or Gliscor) make it a meta-defining threat. As the tier develops, council will be watching Slaking closely to see if its influence is healthy.
:toxic orb:Poison Heal - With two viable fuses donating the ability and a host of viable bases to take advantage (along with the recent ban Neutralizing Gas), the meta is prime real estate for Poison Heal. Perhaps the status immunity and passive healing is a little too free...
:numel:Numel - An objectively bad stat-pass and theoretical lack of egregious abusers mean Simple could be allowed in the future.

Resources:
Viability Rankings
coming very soon!
Speed Tiers coming soon!
Sample Teams coming very soon!

11/15 - Magnet Pull banned
 
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FFU Updates

For the first official tiering action,:magnezone:Magnet Pull has been banned from FFU, reason being that it is simply uncompetitive to force critical steels such as Magearna, Dialga, and Arceus-Steel to hold :shed shell: instead of their respective preferred items, drastically reducing their effectiveness. This would also have an unhealthy domino effect on gameplay involving some of the top offensive threats, such as Slaking[Breloom/Gliscor] and Miraidon[Mewtwo].

Welcome aboard TaxFraud to the FFU Council!
 
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:Frosmoth::Marill::Sneasler:Alphabet Soup Update:Snorlax::Chien Pao::Volbeat:

  • What do you get when you mix a mentally ill loner (:sneasler:) with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash (stall, balance, bulky offense). I'll tell you what you get, you get what you frickin' deserve (swept). If you fuse Sneasler with Roaring Moon it will just activate Booster Energy and set up Swords Dance if it sets up on a defensive mon that can't do much, which is quite a few thanks to its Poison/Fighting type. Gholdengo is about the only thing that can even think about not getting 2hkoed at +2, which is not helped when Spikes are up.
:ss/Sneasler::Roaring Moon:
80/191/98/61/121/174
Roaring Moon (Sneasler) @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Gunk Shot
- Close Combat
- Acrobatics
- Swords Dance
  • Marill has been tier king for awhile. It gets Mortal Spin, Knock Off, Milk Drink, Matcha Gotcha for defensive, and for offensive it had Magical Torque, Liquidation, and Aqua Step. Defensive abilities were the most common on it: Purifying Salt to not get statused and resist Annihilape, Fluffy for physical (still resists fire), Magic Guard to be immune to hazards, being Salt Cured and poisoning from Mortal Spin, and Ice Scales for Special Wall. It's natural abilities helped it a lot. When Rillaboom was king, it was the safest switch in with Sap Sipper, and threatened most everything with a Huge Power Magic Torque. It is neutral to Freezy-Dry, and even with Fluffy it resists fire. It usually ran some mix of offensive and defensive, making BO one of the best team types out there. But it had no way to boost its attack, so if you wanted to run a pure offensive set you usually had to run Calyrex-Ice-Rider. It was called the Great Tusk of Soup. And then Belly Drum was unrestricted. Marill is in many circumstances where it can set up Belly Drum, and when it does it can use Aqua Step to boost its speed. Unless the opponent has something like Haxorus Rillaboom, Scizor Gambit, a Toxapex that can somehow live, or some Ability Shield Quagsire, Haxorus Marill can eat a team uncontested.
:ss/Marill::Haxorus:
80/94/169/73/164/141
Haxorus (Marill) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Step
- Magical Torque
- Knock Off/Superpower

Ice ScalesMarillSneaslerSnorlaxSword of RuinTail Glow
BBPBanBanBanBanUnrestrictBan
TTLTDNBDNBBanDNBUnrestrictDNB
We UpAbstainAbstainAbstainAbstainAbstainAbstain
ResultsDNBDNBBanDNBUnrestrictDNB

Sneasler has been banned and Sword of Ruin has been unrestricted!​
 
INHERIMONS CUP

This is a crazy OM Mashup Idea in which is combined Inheritance, Alphabet Cup and Camomons!

So, how this works?

Inheritance allows you to inherit other Pokemon Movepool and Ability, giving up the originals. With Alphabet Cup, you also can give the Alphabet Moves of that Pokemon! This work for all the moves that start with the same letter of the Pokemon name. For example, an Iron Hands inherited from a Kingambit, not only has the Base Kingambit Movepool, but also almost every move that start with P, B and K.

With Camomons you can change the type of your Pokemon to the type of the moves in your first two moveslots.

This allows for crazy combinations that can change a lot of things

Ilustrating the Iron Hands Example

Kingambit. (Iron Hands) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Supreme Overlord
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bitter Blade
- Knock Off
- Bulk Up/Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch

Council

:Monferno: adpg.2007 (Me)
:Budew: BandedBodyPress

BANS

Pokemon


  • Arceus
  • Avalugg
  • Calyrex-Ice
  • Calyrex-Shadow
  • Cresselia
  • Deoxys-Attack
  • Deoxys-Base
  • Deoxys-Speed
  • Dialga
  • Dialga-Origin
  • Dondozo
  • Dragapult
  • Dragonite
  • Eternatus
  • Flutter Mane
  • Giratina
  • Giratina-Origin
  • Groudon
  • Ho-oh
  • Hoopa-Unbound
  • Koraidon
  • Kyogre
  • Kyurem-Black
  • Kyurem-White
  • Lugia
  • Lunala
  • Magearna
  • Mewtwo
  • Miraidon
  • Necrozma-Dawn-Wings
  • Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
  • Numel
  • Palkia
  • Palkia-Origin
  • Pelipper
  • Rayquaza
  • Regieleki
  • Regigigas
  • Shaymin-Sky
  • Skeledirge
  • Slaking
  • Solgaleo
  • Spectrier
  • Torkoal
  • Zacian
  • Zacian-Crowned
  • Zamazenta
  • Zamazenta-Crowned
  • Terastalization

Abilities

  • Arena Trap
  • Contrary
  • Fur Coat
  • Huge Power
  • Ice Scales
  • Imposter
  • Magnet Pull
  • Moody
  • Poison Heal
  • Pure Power
  • Shadow Tag
  • Speed Boost
  • Stakeout
  • Water Bubble

Items

  • King's Rock
  • Razor Fang

Moves

Banned

  • Acupressure
  • Last Respects
  • Rage Fist
  • Revival Blessing
  • Shed Tail
  • Shell Smash
  • Baton Pass
  • Fillet Away

Restricted

(Cannot be inherited by Alphabet Cup Moves)

  • Astral Barrage
  • Beak Blast
  • Belly Drum
  • Ceaseless Edge
  • Clangorous Soul
  • Eruption
  • Extreme Speed
  • Fickle Beam
  • Glacial Lance
  • Population Bomb
  • Sacred Fire
  • Salt Cure
  • Shift Gear
  • Stone Axe
  • Surging Strikes
  • V-Create
  • Victory Dance
  • Wicked Blow

Watchlist

  • Chansey
  • Iron Bundle
  • Kingambit
  • Sableye
  • Samurott-Hisui
  • Secret Sword
  • Quiver Dance

Unbans

  • Blaziken
  • Combusken
  • Espathra
  • Enamorus
  • Flittle
  • Iron Bundle
  • Iron Valiant
  • Sableye
  • Scream Tail
  • Samurott-Hisui
  • Torchic
  • Ursaluna
  • Urshifu-Base

Code

Challenge

/challenge gen9inheritance @@@ Camomons Mod, Alphabet Cup Move Legality, +Enamorus-Base, +Espathra, +Flittle, +Iron Bundle, +Iron Valiant, +Sableye, +Samurott-Hisui, +Scream Tail, +Urshifu, +Ursaluna, +Drizzle, -Avalugg, -Deoxys-Speed, -Numel, -Pelipper, -Skeledirge, -Acupressure, -Revival Blessing, -Contrary, -Fur Coat, -Ice Scales, -Speed Boost, -Water Bubble, *Astral Barrage, *Beak Blast, *Belly Drum, *Boomburst, *Ceaseless Edge, *Clangorous Soul, *Dire Claw, *Extreme Speed, *Eruption, *Fickle Beam, *Glacial Lance, *Population Bomb, *Sacred Fire, *Salt Cure, *Shift Gear, *Stone Axe, *Surging Strikes, *Tail Glow, *V-Create, *Victory Dance, *Wicked Blow

Tour

/tour new [Gen 9] Inheritance, Elimination,,,[Gen 9] Inherimons Cup
/tour rules Standard OMs, Camomons Mod, Alphabet Cup Move Legality, +Enamorus-Base, +Espathra, +Flittle, +Iron Bundle, +Iron Valiant, +Sableye, +Samurott-Hisui, +Scream Tail, +Urshifu, +Ursaluna, +Drizzle, -Avalugg, -Deoxys-Speed, -Numel, -Pelipper, -Skeledirge, -Acupressure, -Revival Blessing, -Contrary, -Fur Coat, -Ice Scales, -Speed Boost, -Water Bubble, *Astral Barrage, *Beak Blast, *Belly Drum, *Boomburst, *Ceaseless Edge, *Clangorous Soul, *Dire Claw, *Extreme Speed, *Eruption, *Fickle Beam, *Glacial Lance, *Population Bomb, *Sacred Fire, *Salt Cure, *Shift Gear, *Stone Axe, *Surging Strikes, *Tail Glow, *V-Create, *Victory Dance, *Wicked Blow
/tour autostart 10
/tour autodq 7
/wall This is Inheritance with Camomons and Alphabet Cup
 
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I don't know if I'm allowed to do this, I hope everything is right

INHERIMONS CUP

This is a crazy OM Mashup Idea in which is combined Inheritance, Alphabet Cup and Camomons!

So, how this works?

Inheritance allows you to inherit other Pokemon Movepool and Ability, giving up the originals. With Alphabet Cup, you also can give the Alphabet Moves of that Pokemon! This work For all the moves that start with the same letter of the Pokemon name. For example, an Iron Hands inherited from a Kingambit, not only has the Base Kingambit Movepool, but also almost every move that start with P, B and K.

With Camomons you can change the type of your Pokemon to the type of the moves in your first two moveslots.

This allows for crazy combinations that can change a lot of things

Council

:Monferno: adpg.2007 (Me)

BANS

Pokemon


  • Arceus
  • Calyrex-Ice
  • Calyrex-Shadow
  • Cresselia
  • Dialga
  • Dialga-Origin
  • Dondozo
  • Dragonite
  • Eternatus
  • Flutter Mane
  • Giratina
  • Giratina-Origin
  • Groudon
  • Hoopa-Unbound
  • Koraidon
  • Kyogre
  • Magearna
  • Mewtwo
  • Miraidon
  • Palkia
  • Palkia-Origin
  • Rayquaza
  • Regieleki
  • Shaymin-Sky
  • Slaking
  • Spectrier
  • Ursaluna-Base
  • Zacian
  • Zacian-Crowned
  • Zamazenta
  • Zamazenta-Crowned

Abilities

  • Arena Trap
  • Fur Coat
  • Huge Power
  • Ice Scales
  • Imposter
  • Magnet Pull
  • Moody
  • Poison Heal
  • Pure Power
  • Shadow Tag
  • Speed Boost
  • Stakeout

Items

  • King's Rock
  • Razor Fang
  • Baton Pass
  • Fillet Away

Moves

Banned

  • Acupressure
  • Last Respects
  • Rage Fist
  • Revival Blessing
  • Shed Tail
  • Shell Smash

Restricted

(Cannot be inherited by Alphabet Cup Moves)

  • Astral Barrage
  • Belly Drum
  • Ceaseless Edge
  • Dragon Dance
  • Extreme Speed
  • Glacial Lance
  • Population Bomb
  • Quiver Dance
  • Shift Gear
  • Stone Axe
  • Surging Strikes
  • Tidy Up
  • V-Create
  • Victory Dance

Watchlist

  • Lucario

Unbans

  • Dragapult
  • Enamorus
  • Espathra
  • Flittle
  • Iron Bundle
  • Sableye
  • Scream Tail
  • Samurrot-Hisui
  • Torkoal
  • Urshifu-Base

Code

Challenge

/challenge gen9inheritance @@@ Camomons Mod, Alphabet Cup Move Legality, +Dragapult, +Enamorus-Base, +Espathra, +Flittle, +Iron Bundle, +Sableye, +Scream Tail, +Samurrot-Hisui, +Urshifu, -Acupressure, -Revival Blessing, *Astral Barrage, *Belly Drum, *Ceaseless Edge, *Dragon Dance, *Extreme Speed, *Glacial Lance, *Population Bomb, *Quiver Dance, *Shift Gear, *Stone Axe, *Surging Strikes, *Tidy Up, *V-Create, *Victory Dance

Tour

/tour new [Gen 9] Inheritance, Elimination,,,[Gen 9] Inherimons Cup
/tour rules Standard OMs, Camomons Mod, Alphabet Cup Move Legality, +Dragapult, +Enamorus-Base, +Espathra, +Flittle, +Iron Bundle, +Sableye, +Scream Tail, +Samurrot-Hisui, +Urshifu-Base, -Acupressure, -Revival Blessing, *Astral Barrage, *Belly Drum, *Ceaseless Edge, *Dragon Dance, *Extreme Speed, *Glacial Lance, *Population Bomb, *Quiver Dance, *Shift Gear, *Stone Axe, *Surging Strikes, *Tidy Up, *V-Create, *Victory Dance

Sorry if is too long, I'm relatively new using the Forums and I don't know how put things in folders or something
Has this been played in the room at all? Usually before making a hub you should see if players like the meta first. Also one man councils aren't the best thing especially if it's a new meta
 

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Hi adpg.2007 , I'm glad to see your enthusiasm about this mashup! However, metagame hubs need approval from OM Mashups staff, and it looks like you worked on this format alone. There are rules and policies in place to ensure mashups have clear rulesets and bans/restrictions backed up by evidence; collaboration with other users and Mashups staff can help you develop this metagame and establish a playerbase. Please reach out to a moderator with further questions, and someone will help you out with Inherimons Cup
 
Hi adpg.2007 , I'm glad to see your enthusiasm about this mashup! However, metagame hubs need approval from OM Mashups staff, and it looks like you worked on this format alone. There are rules and policies in place to ensure mashups have clear rulesets and bans/restrictions backed up by evidence; collaboration with other users and Mashups staff can help you develop this metagame and establish a playerbase. Please reach out to a moderator with further questions, and someone will help you out with Inherimons Cup
Thanks, I'll try to make it
 
Well, after we played the First Tour Room, and some other personal games, I'm happy to announce

MY FIRST TIERING ACTIONS

This ones are:

BANS

:Numel: Numel: Simple No Retreat, nothing much to say, that's truly overpowered

RESTRICTIONS

:Garganacl: Salt Cure: this is an absurd move that can easily rack up damage and was widely spread.

:Noivern: Boomburst: Haha, Adaptabilty Boomburst goes brr. The damage is just insane.

UNRESTRICTIONS

:Masquerain: Quiver Dance: Because is not so widely spread, we're gonna give it a try

WATCHLIST

:Kingambit: Kingambit: this Mon have a pretty widespread of moves and Supreme Overlord can make every Poke a overpowered cleaner, however, the testing is not enough yet

:Manaphy: Tail Glow: +3 in Sp. Attack in one turn can be extremely threatening

:Sneasler: Dire Claw: Serene Grace Dire Claw seems completely stupid, but still, there's not enough testing for make a final stand.

:Avalugg: Avalugg: This thing with his Titanic Defense and a good typing sometimes is completely unbreakable, specially if there's another Mon that can tank the special side to support It, like Chansey, Blissey or Goodra.

Also, I Fix a lotta of errors in the Code. Thanks to everyone in the OMM Room for give me a chance!

Also, I'm not gonna fix the letter guide just now. I'm tired and also in class.

So, have a Happy day! :)
 
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After the Second Test, let's get into it

SECOND TIERING ACTIONS IN INHERIMONS CUP

Bans

:Skeledirge: Skeledirge: Unaware + Cosmic Power + Torch Song + Stored Power is a overpowered combo in almost any mon, so it's banned

:Espathra: :Flittle: Espathra and Flitle: because they are the causes of Speed Boost being overpowered, is better to ban It again and for that.

:Pelipper: Pelipper: with the combination of Water Spout + Drizzle, this is nearly unwalleable, while also having good coverage and priority to back it

:Enamorus: Contrary: everything getting STAB High Base Power Attacks that boost Stats in Superpower, Leaf Storm and Fleur Cannon just make snowballing extremely easy

Restrictions

:Manaphy: Tail Glow: because this Boost is what makes donors like Toxticitry and Rillaboom so busted, getting it banned means that they aren't truly overpowered donors anymore, because of not inmediate way of Boost his Power

:Sneasler: Dire Claw: 100% chance of status with Serene Grace is really restricting and with basically no counters outside of Steel Types

:Typhlosion: Eruption: Because Eevee gets Eruption with Adaptabilty, is nearly unwallable from him, more when you think of It getting Electro Drift too, but with this out, is still a good donor, but not an OP one

Unbans

:Yanmega: Speed Boost: because Espathra is the only user making it overpowered, banning it is the better call than Speed Boost

:Ursaluna: Ursaluna: because Heracross gives the exact same traits, Ursaluna not has something special to offer, so it gets unbanned

:Iron Valiant: Iron Valiant: just banned from Base Inheritance, with Pult being free, Valiant is not really a Top Mon, so it gets unbanned

:Dragonite: :Maushold: Dragon Dance and Tidy Up: just for testing purposes, these moves are gonna be allowed and see if they are the OP thing or is Samurrot-H.

And I think that's all for now. Thanks to everyone in the Room for the Feedback. Probably adding more council members soon!

EDIT: Crap! Clangorous Soul escaping a 2nd Time... Now get restricted before everyone find out :)
 
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every month we have omm spotlights, which are chosen by the community. hilariously, no one every actually talks ABOUT the spotlight. no, i'm not keen to actually talk about LC GG, so i'm doing Pokebilities BH instead b4 the DLC drops.
:sv/calyrex-shadow: no
:sv/gengar-mega: take a guess
:sv/groudon-primal: no
:sv/mewtwo-mega-y: idrk tbh. maybe
:sv/rayquaza-mega: same as pdon, No
:sv/regigigas: this sucks ass now
:sv/shedinja: still no
:sv/slaking: also sucks ass
:sv/dugtrio::sv/glalie::sv/gothitelle::sv/octillery:
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:sv/smeargle:sit tight guys
(long list beware)
:sv/chansey: this gets better cuz other things get better. worth mentioning that it can heal off status if it isn't impostering.
:sv/mewtwo-mega-x: this doesn't change like, at all. it's still good tho
:sv/miraidon: wu oh, someone gained a new buff. this is the first actual important change. hadron engine shenanigans have returned and defensive sets have to make room for offensive ones
:sv/diancie-mega: now this is a change that looks balanced but also VERY good. now that this gets magic bounce (i think), stuff like will-o-wisp, glare and strength sap are rendered useless against this
:sv/arceus-fairy: next
:sv/kyogre-primal: this is a teeeeny change, but primal kyogre has more offensive value. now those scalds really do be hitting
:sv/arceus-ghost: next
:sv/kartana: all the ultra beasts gain minor buffs, but this one is pretty significant because its kart
:sv/arceus-poison: next
:sv/yveltal: this is identical to kyogre-p in the that their defensive stab gains more buffs
:sv/dialga-origin: since most things get pressure, this isn't too important
:sv/arceus-ground: next
:sv/steelix-mega: nah nothing too important here
:sv/eternatus: no large change here, similar to dialga-o
:sv/kyurem-black: ok now THIS is neat. auto teravolt means that walls are no longer true walls anymore and this gives kyurem-b a big boost to its offensive capabilities
:sv/garchomp-mega: normally, this wouldn't be too important as sand force is mainly useless but we have a new star coming up...keep reading...
:sv/ho-oh: regen + another defensive ability?!? yes plz sign me up.
:sv/celesteela: for this, abil isn't important
:sv/blacephalon: like kart, but less of an impact
:sv/audino-mega: no change, next
:sv/deoxys-attack: also no change, next
:sv/swampert-mega: no change here as well, next
:sv/gardevoir-mega: ooh now this is heat ngl. this usually runs pixilate itself, so now that it can run a secondary one makes it a whole lot easier
:sv/lunala: shadow shield on this mon is quite nice, as it can set up no-retreat easier, giving it another niche over arc-ghost (one niche is stored power)
:sv/zacian-crowned: nope next
:sv/greninja-ash: nah next
:sv/beedrill-mega: its a shame this has such a bad stab combo, but it still looks horrifying. tough claws/sword of ruin + adaptability might cook (almost outclassed by something else actually)
:sv/pheromosa: well, this is similar to kart except its weaker but faster
:sv/palkia-origin: nope next
:sv/ferrothorn: not a large change that makes it very important, but iron barbs can helps against stuff like kart and phero
:sv/solgaleo: actually not bad. this would've been better during lumina unban because of how it was immune to the stat drops but this is still alr
:sv/slowbro-mega: a miniscule niche which helps it against ash-greninja thanks to shell armor
:sv/flutter-mane: normalize sets are screwed but pixilate sets are alr. booster could work but i might be overestimating. it also pairs well with something else stay tuned...
:sv/pikachu: ew no
:sv/arceus-fire: next
:sv/arceus-water: next
:sv/giratina: similar to dialga-o and eternatus. next
:sv/scizor-mega: it would be a REAL shame if almost ALL of msciz's viable moves were over 60 BP hmm?
:sv/victini: no next
:sv/zacian: like mirai, zacian gains a better offensive ability which doesn't help as much
:sv/kyurem-white: like kyu-b, this has auto turboblaze soo walls are no longer TRUE walls
:sv/magearna: not really worth mentioning as it's role is a special wall, but pixilate sets become somewhat viable
:sv/necrozma-ultra: ooh cool tech coming right up. protean sets would've been very cool, but other abilities like adapt can work well with neuroforce
:sv/registeel: excluding the stats, this is worse solgaleo
the new niches i will explain later stay tuned
e: it's later
:sv/koraidon:
this is the optimal flutter mane partner i was talking about here, mainly because it's the best sun setter. now koraidon has a niche of being the only pokemon with access to orichalcum pulse, meaning that v-creates hit way too hard, and a secondary ability like tough claws goes hard
:sv/tyranitar-mega:
ooh boy, i actually love this guy, because sand stream + ice scales make this THE special wall with 3x special defense. this checks SO many things, arc-ghost, lunala, maybe mdiancie, blacephalon. and what's more, this guy synergizes perfectly with mega garchomp thanks to sand force.
:sv/darmanitan-galar:
woah woah woah wtf?!?. this should be insta banned because gorilla tactics + zen mode + offensive ability + choice aband / scarf is way broken and i'm not elaborating
:sv/enamorus:
ok....we have a contrary abuser. this is a bit more niche, but sets running beads of ruin, sword of ruin or adaptability be hitting.
:sv/lucario-mega:
yk how i mentioned about how mega beedrill was almost outclassed? well this is it. despite its lower stats mega lucario can run mixed sets, making dedicated walls harder to find.
:sv/clodsire:
this is a slightly worse mega tyranitar, due to lower bulk and no longer having a psychic immunity and ghost resistance, but toxic and toxic spikes become futile. it also has unaware + water absorb, giving it a tiny niche
:sv/blaziken-mega:
before this was h actually on the vr and then got unranked, but it's back because of speed boost + desolate land, making it easier for it to sweepand harder for it to get revenge killed.
 
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Forgot to mention other rising stars.
:kangaskhan-mega:
Unfortunately it doesn’t have cedge or dire claw like it does in natdex but I could see all kinds of defensive abils and items on this thing which is a huge benefit to its gameplan, no idea what you run after sap and ruination + super fang or night shade. Maybe tarrows for the funny secondary effects?
:gyarados-mega:
Similar to the aforementioned kyurems, auto mold makes mega gyarados really strong. Insanely difficult to improof tho maybe a shield mega bro
Edit: curious as to how my boy :zygarde-complete: will work, does power construct override stuff like bounce or fc.
 
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Forgot to mention two other rising stars.
:kangaskhan-mega:
Unfortunately it doesn’t have cedge or dire claw like it does in natdex but I could see all kinds of defensive abils and items on this thing which is a huge benefit to its gameplan, no idea what you run after sap and ruination + super fang or night shade. Maybe tarrows for the funny secondary effects?
:gyarados-mega:
Similar to the aforementioned kyurems, auto mold makes mega gyarados really strong. Insanely difficult to improof tho maybe a shield mega bro
Edit: curious as to how my boy :zygarde-complete: will work, does power construct override stuff like bounce or fc.
If iirc power construct only works if it's selected in Pokebilities so it will probably end up doing nothing
 
If iirc power construct only works if it's selected in Pokebilities so it will probably end up doing nothing
Aight so darm g is just bad kyurem then, also I found some other stuff Ig.
:swampert-mega:
I feel like dismissing swim as inconsequential misses the very big potential of prim sea swift swim sets, maybe not as good as I’m thinking, also scales can handle miraidon I think although spd sets are prob outclassed by the next mon
:ting-lu:
The deer is back and ready to rumble, with the advent of hadron mirai vessel regenvest ting lu appears as a solid answer, as it did in early meta bh.
:aerodactyl-mega:
Yaaaaa you no longer break absolutely nothing!!! It’s also an offensive revenge killer with that speed :o:
 
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Aight so darm g is just bad kyurem then, also I found some other stuff Ig.
Nah zen mode works if that's what ur talking about it's just that since Power construct Zygarde can only ever have power construct pokebilites counts it as its own pokemon same thing with ash gren which can never have torrent or protean so unless you select battle bond you won't transform
 
Nah zen mode works if that's what ur talking about it's just that since Power construct Zygarde can only ever have power construct pokebilites counts it as its own pokemon same thing with ash gren which can never have torrent or protean so unless you select battle bond you won't transform
Does zen mode override gorilla + selected ability tho is the question cause if it does then Ig it has a niche as a fast breaker after sr chip if not then it’s got nothing
 

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