Gen 1 Omastar (Mini) [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

[Mikon]

[OVERVIEW]

Omastar's typing is almost unique in OU, being shared only with Kabutops. It provides it with useful resistances to Normal and Ice, which allow it to punish Hyper Beam and Explosion, and let it check Snorlax and Tauros lacking Earthquake. This is backed up by its solid bulk and good Special, which enables it to do significant damage with Hydro Pump. Its movepool contains decent utility and coverage options such as Ice Beam, Seismic Toss, Submission, and Body Slam.

Omastar is not recommended for most OU teams, though, as it is plagued by several crippling flaws that outweigh these qualities. It is walled by the omnipresent Chansey and the common Starmie. Slowbro also has little trouble walling it and can use it as an opportunity to set up with Amnesia. Omastar's typing is a double-edged sword that gives it weaknesses to Earthquake and Thunderbolt, which are both common in the metagame. Even if it avoids both, Omastar has to rely on Rest for recovery, which renders it useless for two turns, giving offensive threats such as Tauros and Zapdos opportunities to switch into it and wreak havoc.

[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Body Slam / Seismic Toss
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]

STAB Hydro Pump 2HKOes Tauros, allowing Omastar to win against it one-on-one, as Tauros can only 3HKO it with Earthquake or 4HKO with Thunderbolt. Hydro Pump also 3HKOes most other Pokemon that are not named Chansey and do not resist Water. This includes Snorlax, so, even if it is carrying Earthquake, Omastar can still force it out if it switches in on a predicted Snorlax Rest. If Hydro Pump's low PP and 79.7% accuracy are a concern, Surf can be used instead at the cost of a noticeable reduction in power. Ice Beam 3HKOes Exeggutor and Zapdos, and it can also be used to fish for a freeze. Body Slam is used specifically to fish for paralysis on switch-ins like Starmie, though it cannot paralyze Chansey, which also likes to switch into Omastar. Seismic Toss is an alternative option to do consistent damage to Starmie, Slowbro, and Cloyster. Rest restores Omastar to full HP and removes any status it had beforehand. With it, Omastar can loop the rare Amnesia Snorlax that runs Ice Beam as its only move. Unfortunately, Snorlax more commonly runs Blizzard when using Amnesia and 3HKOes Omastar with it at +6.

Omastar has some other options. Blizzard is usable because it 2HKOes Victreebel and requires less prior chip damage than Ice Beam to 2HKO Exeggutor and Zapdos. However, Victreebel is rare, and Blizzard has less PP and accuracy than Ice Beam. Submission 3HKOes Chansey, but it has little other use, causes recoil damage, and only has 79.7% accuracy. Substitute protects Omastar from Ice Beam freezes and paralysis from Body Slam and allows it to burn a Rest turn for free. Reflect and Withdraw boost Omastar's Defense so it can check Snorlax carrying Earthquake, but they do nothing to stop Chansey, Starmie, and Slowbro from walling it. Mimic is unreliable but can get Omastar solid moves from its switch-ins like Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, and Sing.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[FriendOfMrGolem120, 424525], [Amaranth, 265630]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

 

[FriendOfMrGolem120]

Omastar has to rely on Rest for recovery, which renders it useless for three turns

I would not count the turn it used Rest, and thus only say two turns

assuming all 16PP are used, there is an 81.85% chance of succeeding

I would remove this, as it assumes that each Ice Beam hits a non statused non Ice-type pokemon. Besides that, I get a slightly different chance (81,3406964% when considering 1/256 misses, 81,4697981% without considering misses).

If you want you can add that Omastar Rest loops +6 Snorlax that only carries Ice Beam. Though admittedly, this set is extremely rare nowadays but was spammed by Nails 3 SPLs ago which combined with his tendendy for Fire Blast Tauros at that time, made Omastar a very good counter tech vs him.

QC 1/2

 

[Mikon]

Implemented.

I would remove this, as it assumes that each Ice Beam hits a non statused non Ice-type pokemon. Besides that, I get a slightly different chance (81,3406964% when considering 1/256 misses, 81,4697981% without considering misses).

This result assumes Ice Beam only has a 10% chance to freeze, which is inaccurate as secondary effects have a greater chance of occurring than stated in RBY. The true probability of an Ice Beam freeze is 26/256 or 10.16% to two decimal places. That being said, it's true that it isn't likely to hit a healthy non-Ice type with Ice Beam every time, so I've taken it out regardless.

 

[Amaranth]

Good and to the point, clearly outlines flaws and strengths of this pokemon. QC 2/2 good work

 

[Zokuru]

I'd add Substitute somewhere, guards you against IceBeam freezes while you can spam yours as much as you want. Might come handy in a metagame with a lot of MonoChansey, also Sub + Rest isn't a bad combinaison in RBY, and it can be surprisingly hard to remove Omastar sub if you have a bunch of paralysed Pokemons since Surf hits pretty hard.
Also guards you from Lax BSlam paralysis.

 

[Mikon]

I'd add Substitute somewhere, guards you against IceBeam freezes while you can spam yours as much as you want. Might come handy in a metagame with a lot of MonoChansey, also Sub + Rest isn't a bad combinaison in RBY, and it can be surprisingly hard to remove Omastar sub if you have a bunch of paralysed Pokemons since Surf hits pretty hard.
Also guards you from Lax BSlam paralysis.

Added in with approval from Amaranth

 

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[OVERVIEW]

Omastar's typing is almost unique in OU, being shared only with Kabutops. It provides it with useful resistances to Normal- and Ice-type moves that Normal and Ice, which allow it to punish poor usage of Hyper Beam and Explosion, while checking and let it check Snorlax and Tauros lacking Earthquake. This is backed up by its solid bulk and good Special, (AC) that which enables it to do significant damage with Hydro Pump. Its movepool contains decent utility and coverage options such as Ice Beam, Seismic Toss, Submission, and Body Slam.

Omastar is not recommended for most OU teams, (AC) though, (AC) as it is plagued by several crippling flaws that outweigh these qualities. It is walled by the omnipresent Chansey and the common Starmie. Slowbro also has little trouble walling it and can use it as an opportunity to boost its Special set up with Amnesia. Omastar's typing is a double-edged sword that gives it weaknesses to Earthquake and Thunderbolt, which are both common in the metagame. Even if these aren't run, it avoids both, Omastar has to rely on Rest for recovery, which renders it useless for two turns, (AC) and gives giving offensive threats such as Tauros and Zapdos opportunities to switch into it and wreak havoc.

[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Body Slam / Seismic Toss
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]

STAB Hydro Pump 2HKOes Tauros, allowing Omastar to win the interaction against it one-on-one, as Tauros can only 3HKO it with Earthquake or 4HKO with Thunderbolt. Hydro Pump also 3HKOes most other Pokemon that are not named Chansey and do not possess a resistance to Water-type moves. resist Water. This includes Snorlax, so, (AC) even if it is carrying Earthquake, Omastar can still force it out if it switches in on a predicted Snorlax Rest. If Hydro Pump's low PP and 79.7% accuracy are a concern, Surf can be used instead (removed period) Its 99.6% accuracy and 24PP give Omastar more room to inflict consistent damage throughout the game at the cost of a noticeable reduction in power. Ice Beam 3HKOes Exeggutor and Zapdos, and it can also be used to fish for a freeze. Body Slam is used specifically to fish for paralysis on switch-ins (added hyphen) like Starmie, though it cannot paralyze Chansey, who which also likes to switch into Omastar. Seismic Toss is an alternative option to do consistent damage to Starmie, Slowbro, and Cloyster. Rest restores Omastar to full HP and removes any status it had beforehand. With it, Omastar can loop the rare Amnesia Snorlax that runs Ice Beam as its only move. Unfortunately, Snorlax more commonly runs Blizzard when using Amnesia and will be able to 3HKOes Omastar with it at +6.

Omastar has some other options. Blizzard is usable because it 2HKOes Victreebel and requires less prior chip damage than Ice Beam to 2HKO Exeggutor and Zapdos. However, Victreebel is rare, and Blizzard has less PP and accuracy than Ice Beam. Submission 3HKOes Chansey, but it has little other use, causes recoil damage, and only has 79.7% accuracy. Substitute protects Omastar from Ice Beam freezes and paralysis from Body Slam and allows it to burn off a Rest turn for free. Reflect and Withdraw boost Omastar's Defense so it can check Snorlax carrying Earthquake, but they do nothing to stop Omastar from being walled by Chansey, Starmie, and Slowbro from walling it. Mimic is unreliable (RC) but can get Omastar solid moves from its switch-ins (added hyphen) like Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, or and Sing.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[FriendOfMrGolem120, 424525], [Amaranth, 265630]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

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[Mikon]

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[OVERVIEW]

Omastar's typing is almost unique in OU, being shared only with Kabutops. It provides it with useful resistances to Normal- and Ice-type moves that Normal and Ice, which allow it to punish poor usage of Hyper Beam and Explosion, while checking and let it check Snorlax and Tauros lacking Earthquake. This is backed up by its solid bulk and good Special, (AC) that which enables it to do significant damage with Hydro Pump. Its movepool contains decent utility and coverage options such as Ice Beam, Seismic Toss, Submission, and Body Slam.

Omastar is not recommended for most OU teams, (AC) though, (AC) as it is plagued by several crippling flaws that outweigh these qualities. It is walled by the omnipresent Chansey and the common Starmie. Slowbro also has little trouble walling it and can use it as an opportunity to boost its Special set up with Amnesia. Omastar's typing is a double-edged sword that gives it weaknesses to Earthquake and Thunderbolt, which are both common in the metagame. Even if these aren't run, it avoids both, Omastar has to rely on Rest for recovery, which renders it useless for two turns, (AC) and gives giving offensive threats such as Tauros and Zapdos opportunities to switch into it and wreak havoc.

[SET]
name: Tank
move 1: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Body Slam / Seismic Toss
move 4: Rest

[SET COMMENTS]

STAB Hydro Pump 2HKOes Tauros, allowing Omastar to win the interaction against it one-on-one, as Tauros can only 3HKO it with Earthquake or 4HKO with Thunderbolt. Hydro Pump also 3HKOes most other Pokemon that are not named Chansey and do not possess a resistance to Water-type moves. resist Water. This includes Snorlax, so, (AC) even if it is carrying Earthquake, Omastar can still force it out if it switches in on a predicted Snorlax Rest. If Hydro Pump's low PP and 79.7% accuracy are a concern, Surf can be used instead (removed period) Its 99.6% accuracy and 24PP give Omastar more room to inflict consistent damage throughout the game at the cost of a noticeable reduction in power. Ice Beam 3HKOes Exeggutor and Zapdos, and it can also be used to fish for a freeze. Body Slam is used specifically to fish for paralysis on switch-ins (added hyphen) like Starmie, though it cannot paralyze Chansey, who which also likes to switch into Omastar. Seismic Toss is an alternative option to do consistent damage to Starmie, Slowbro, and Cloyster. Rest restores Omastar to full HP and removes any status it had beforehand. With it, Omastar can loop the rare Amnesia Snorlax that runs Ice Beam as its only move. Unfortunately, Snorlax more commonly runs Blizzard when using Amnesia and will be able to 3HKOes Omastar with it at +6.

Omastar has some other options. Blizzard is usable because it 2HKOes Victreebel and requires less prior chip damage than Ice Beam to 2HKO Exeggutor and Zapdos. However, Victreebel is rare, and Blizzard has less PP and accuracy than Ice Beam. Submission 3HKOes Chansey, but it has little other use, causes recoil damage, and only has 79.7% accuracy. Substitute protects Omastar from Ice Beam freezes and paralysis from Body Slam and allows it to burn off a Rest turn for free. Reflect and Withdraw boost Omastar's Defense so it can check Snorlax carrying Earthquake, but they do nothing to stop Omastar from being walled by Chansey, Starmie, and Slowbro from walling it. Mimic is unreliable (RC) but can get Omastar solid moves from its switch-ins (added hyphen) like Thunderbolt, Thunder Wave, or and Sing.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Mikon, 535276]]
- Quality checked by: [[FriendOfMrGolem120, 424525], [Amaranth, 265630]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429]]

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