Opinions on Star Wars 9?

737373elj

Banned deucer.
So I recently discovered the trailer for the new Star Wars movie, and I can’t make Head or Tail of it. So I was wondering, what do you think?
Trailer below:

 
I think it looks interesting, and am ready to see the direction they take it. I'm worried though about how accurate that is for being canon, or if they're just pulling vision shenanigans. Overall would say it looks like a good blend of the story they're building with current Extended Universe materials.
 

737373elj

Banned deucer.
I’m really Thinking that this trilogy is just a warmed-over version of the previous one, so no surprises if the plot turns out similar. All the same, I have no idea where all the details fit in.
 
I’m really Thinking that this trilogy is just a warmed-over version of the previous one, so no surprises if the plot turns out similar. All the same, I have no idea where all the details fit in.
Totally agree! I feel like I'm just rewatching 4-6 as if it was repackaged, here's to hoping for some differentiation in this new one!
 
i said this in some other star wars thread i think when 7 first came out, but it would've been sick if they did a role reversal in 8 where rey goes bad and kylo becomes good. it would be 1000000x better then whatever "new out of nowhere very powerful bad faction" vs "small group of rebels that is connected to larger republic that just is ok with the new empire existing???" plot theyve got set up for next. like it would have added so much depth to that conflict and made it actually really interesting. it's very simple, doesn't complicate things too much, and gives everyone a reason to be invested in this conflict. honestly im really not sure what exactly has been the point of these movies beyond setting up the same old good side vs evil side except with different people and some throwbacks to the original series. i mean i guess rey is a strong female lead that young kids look up to and whatever so i see what disney wouldn't want to go for that. probably harder to sell good kylo vs rey.

it just pisses me off how awesome star wars is and how they manage to bungle the media. the films could've been so much more. they haven't been able to release a good star wars game in the past decade. bleh.
 

737373elj

Banned deucer.
it just pisses me off how awesome star wars is and how they manage to bungle the media. the films could've been so much more. they haven't been able to release a good star wars game in the past decade. bleh.
This is my opinion completely. I preferred the original 6 and I would even have preferred not making any other movies if Disney would bungle it up.
 
That's kind of how I feel as well, while the new ones have cool scenes by themselves that make them good, the overall product isn't as quality compared to the original 6. Hell I'd take something on par with the phantom menace quality, if it meant I got an entirely new story that wasn't taken from a previous film in the series.
 
i said this in some other star wars thread i think when 7 first came out, but it would've been sick if they did a role reversal in 8 where rey goes bad and kylo becomes good. it would be 1000000x better then whatever "new out of nowhere very powerful bad faction" vs "small group of rebels that is connected to larger republic that just is ok with the new empire existing???" plot theyve got set up for next. like it would have added so much depth to that conflict and made it actually really interesting. it's very simple, doesn't complicate things too much, and gives everyone a reason to be invested in this conflict. honestly im really not sure what exactly has been the point of these movies beyond setting up the same old good side vs evil side except with different people and some throwbacks to the original series. i mean i guess rey is a strong female lead that young kids look up to and whatever so i see what disney wouldn't want to go for that. probably harder to sell good kylo vs rey.

it just pisses me off how awesome star wars is and how they manage to bungle the media. the films could've been so much more. they haven't been able to release a good star wars game in the past decade. bleh.
To be fair Disney was set to do good with the franchise and just be like "lets ignore any backlash to episode 8...." That is until they lost their shirt on both Solo and the Star wars land in Florida/California... Right now they are likely trying to save their asses and keep up the brand of Starwars

Which is also (To go off your Video game comment) is why they gave exclusivity rights to EA... which has backfired horribly as in the almost... decade? that they've handed the Star Wars license to EA.... EA has only gotten out two console games.... WHO I should remind you.. they own fucking BIOWARE... yknow the KOTOR people?

Now I know that the VG problem might not be 100% EAs fault but EA cancelled a shit ton of starwars games... and ive heard in some of those cancelled projects that they needed to basically get someone from Lucasarts to scrutinize over every little detail of the build... which of course would slow progress already more than normal.


Anyways Disney is in panic mode after three major failures that likely have devauled the star wars brand.... Episode 8, Battlefront 2, and Solo. This is why they are likely trying to make Episode 9 as appealing as possible, and have major reworks on other substories they had planned such as the Obi Wan Kanobi movie... this is due to those mistakes and misteps that the fans feel that theyve done to Star wars
 
While I don't want the entire movie to be based off fan service it doesn't hurt when it comes to rebuilding brand image. Let's just hope it's more professional than leaving it up to what fans deem the most popular opinion.
 
To be fair Disney was set to do good with the franchise and just be like "lets ignore any backlash to episode 8...." That is until they lost their shirt on both Solo and the Star wars land in Florida/California... Right now they are likely trying to save their asses and keep up the brand of Starwars

Which is also (To go off your Video game comment) is why they gave exclusivity rights to EA... which has backfired horribly as in the almost... decade? that they've handed the Star Wars license to EA.... EA has only gotten out two console games.... WHO I should remind you.. they own fucking BIOWARE... yknow the KOTOR people?

Now I know that the VG problem might not be 100% EAs fault but EA cancelled a shit ton of starwars games... and ive heard in some of those cancelled projects that they needed to basically get someone from Lucasarts to scrutinize over every little detail of the build... which of course would slow progress already more than normal.


Anyways Disney is in panic mode after three major failures that likely have devauled the star wars brand.... Episode 8, Battlefront 2, and Solo. This is why they are likely trying to make Episode 9 as appealing as possible, and have major reworks on other substories they had planned such as the Obi Wan Kanobi movie... this is due to those mistakes and misteps that the fans feel that theyve done to Star wars
fax bro you bring up a lot of great points here. the video game thing is so baffling to me because it's not as if a star wars video game is uncharted territory...a good portion of my childhood were these star wars games, battlefront 1 and 2, the empire at war series...not to mention KOTOR which i only discovered a couple years ago but is an incredible game and probably one of the most enjoyable games i've played in the last couple years. I wonder if this because singleplayer games have stepped out of the limelight in favor of multiplayer games where you can add on microtransactions and make a killing that way. I think this is where EA exclusivity is really hurting because I feel like there's been a definite shift towards recognizing that strong story driven narratives can still succeed and sell well. at the very least its possible to do both without quality suffering IMO

Bioware to me is not the studio that made KOTOR and the ME games so whether or not they'd be able to make a good star wars game rn is up in the air. That said, while I think it's popular opinion to say that they suck now, I think that's going a bit too far (eg. I actually really enjoyed ME: Andromeda so I think their ability to make single player games is still there). I also forgot about SWTOR which I would consider to be a fairly recent (if not the most recent?) SW single player game as I read it has a sizable single player campaign. I always turned off by the MMORPG aspects though which for me killed the immersion and most of my interest.

I dunno, I guess the difficulty is that the power of Star Wars is that it's not just a singular contained story but an entire universe so it's open to a lot of different interpretations. Maybe Disney doesn't want it to get super convoluted with different stories canonized? (I thought rolling back the EU was a good call for the fact that shit just gets way too complicated). But it's looking increasingly likely that whoever is in charge at Disney isn't really interested in developing the universe and coming up with different characters/settings/narratives and instead just using it to print $$$. Which is a big shame because it's not like they need complicated ideas!!! They have such a good foundation (the films obviously but also a game like KOTOR!) but I guess when a franchise gets so big there's no need to be so creative. Alas. Here's hoping the upcoming Fallen Order game is at least playable.
 

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