Quality Control [ORAS] Genesect [QC 1/2]

[OVERVIEW]


Genesect’s high base Special Attack, coupled with Download and a plethora of strong offensive options such as Flash Cannon, Flamethrower, and Thunderbolt, make it a terrifying threat dealing with top-tier threats like Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Metagross, and Mega Gyarados, Genesect’s decent speed tier allows it to run a Choice Scarf set which gives it many options against faster Pokemon like non-Choice Scarf Greninja and Garchomp with Fire coverage. Because of Genesect's substantial movepool, it often has difficulty deciding which of its many coverage options is best. Additionally, Genesect’s severe weakness to Fire-types keeps it from winning to it's direct counters, losing to popular threats like Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, and Victini. Pokemon with equal defenses such as Manaphy and Azumarill threaten it as they can invest in Special Defense to prevent Genesect from getting a Special Attack boost. Moreover, it faces stiff competition with other Steel-types like Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross as they have more bulk and cover more threats in the metagame.


[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Bug Buzz
move 2: Flash Cannon
move 3: Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
move 4: Ice Beam / Flamethrower
item: Choice Specs
ability: Download
nature: Modest
evs: 40 HP / 208 Def / 100 SpA / 160 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description

========


Bug Buzz and Flash Cannon are Genesect’s primary attacks. With Download and a Special Attack-boosting nature, it can deal with many foes such as Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Slowbro, and Mega Metagross. Thunderbolt is Genesect’s preferred coverage move on this set being able to handle Mega Gyarados. Ice Beam hits Garchomp and Landorus-T super effectively, which otherwise wall this set. Flamethrower can be run for opposing Steel-types like Registeel, Durant, Mega Metagross and Scizor

EVs

========


40 HP and 208 Def provide Genesect with good physical bulk, being able to survive a Close Combat from Choice Band Terrakion. 160 Speed EVs allows Genesect to outspeed Gyarados and Smeargle. The rest of the remaining EVs are invested into Special Attack to increase its offensive capabilities. Alternatively, Genesect can run 184 HP / 216 Def / 108 SpA with a Bold nature to tank a Giga Impact from Mega Pinsir; or, you can run a spread of 44 HP / 136 SpA / 144 SpD / 184 Spe with a Timid Nature to survive a Hyper Beam from Choice Specs Porygon-Z, 2HKO, and outspeed Porygon-Z.

Strategy & Support

========


Avoid sending Genesect against stall Pokemon and special walls like Mega Sableye and Chansey as it doesn’t have the tools required to deal with them. It's best to not send Genesect against Mega Mawile incase they are running Metal Burst. Send Genesect against other wallbreakers like Kyurem-B, Mega Gyarados, and Hoopa-U, as it can use it's bulk to surive a hit, and then counterattack. Try not to send Genesect out against faster offensive nukes, like Greninja, Victini, and Archeops, as they are faster and have enough firepower to break through it. There are many Pokemon that can lure Genesect in with their Fire-type coverage like Hidden Power Fire Porygon-Z, Meloetta, and Fire Blast Togekiss, so Genesect should avoid them. Taunt Mega Gyarados is an excellent partner for this set as it can stop roadblocks in Genesect’s path including stall Pokemon like Chansey and In return, Genesect can handle offensive Pokemon like Mega Gardevoir, Choice Specs Hoopa-U, Serperior, and Mega Diancie. Mega Charizard X complements Genesect well as it can deal with opposing Steel-typed like Mega Mawile and Magnezone. In return, Genesect can deal with Pokémon like Mega Gyarados and Azumarill. Mega Diancie pairs up well with Genesect because of its ability to take on some of Genesect’s biggest counters, Mega Sableye and Fire-types like Mega Charizard X and Y and Victini. In return, Genesect can handle Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus-T.



[SET]
move 1: Flash cannon
move 2: Bug Buzz
move 3: Flamethrower / Ice Beam
move 4: Ice Beam / Thunderbolt
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Download
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description

========

Flamethrower tends to be excellent against opposing Steel-types like Mega Metagross, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Bug Buzz takes care of Psychic-types and Dark-types like Mega Slowbro, Greninja, and Hoopa-U, and Substitute users like Whimsicott and Deoxys-S. Flash Cannon is Genesect’s best option for dealing with Ice- and Fairy-types like Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Diancie. Ice Beam covers Dragon- and Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus. Thunderbolt allows Genesect to take care of offensive Mega Gyarados and Talonflame.


EVs

========

Maximum Special Attack and Speed investment gives Genesect the optimal stats to beat faster Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Band Garchomp. A Modest nature is preferred to increase the power behind Genesect’s special attacks in order to maximize Genesect's chances at 2HKOing Mega Slowbro.


Strategy & Support

========


Try to avoid bulky and stall Pokemon like Mega Sableye, Mega Venusaur, and Chansey, as Choice Scarf Genesect’s damage output is lacking against them. Choice Scarf variants mainly rely on luring faster Pokemon that would normally beat it like Greninja, and Garchomp with Fire-type coverage. It's best to not send Genesect against Mega Mawile in case they are running Metal Burst. Do not send Genesect against Sturdy Pokemon like Magnezone, Sawk, and Golem as they can all survive a hit and counteract it. Additionally, there are many Pokemon which carry Fire-type coverage like Hidden Power Fire Porygon-Z, Meloetta, Fire Blast Mega Altaria and Fire Punch Jirachi, so it should be cautious when approaching them. Ground- and Rock-types like Choice Band Garchomp, Mega Diancie, and Mega Tyranitar are great partners for this set, as they handle one of Genesect’s biggest counter being Fire types, threats that are extremely common and detriment Genesect’s funcionality. In return, Genesect can assist them against some Water-types like Mega Gyarados and Greninja. Taunt Mega Gyarados is another excellent partner which creates a potent core with Genesect. Mega Gyarados adds additional offensive pressure against Dragonite, Mega Tyranitar, and Aegislash. Additionally, it can also lure several checks to Genesect, Sturdy Pokemon and special walls like Magnezone, Sawk, and Golem. In return, Genesect can deal with Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir and Mega Diancie, and Grass-types like Ferrothorn and Serperior. Victini has very good synergy with Genesect because it can deal with opposing Steel-types and Psychic-types like Mega Mawile, Registeel, Meloetta, and Jirachi. In return, Genesect hits Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus-T.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options

=============


Genesect can run Psychic for luring in Loppuny. Energy Ball can be run for dealing with neutral Water-types like Mega Swampert and Gastrodon. Iron Head can be used to improve Genesect's matchup against specially bulky fairies like HP Fire Mega Gardevoir


Checks and Counters

===================


**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard X and Y, Victini and Heatran, are the biggest threats to Genesect, as they can survive its attacks and OHKO Genesect with a 4x super effective STAB move.

**Stall Pokemon**: Mega Sableye, Chansey, and Registeel can easily take Genesect’s attacks and stall or KO it.

**Sturdy**: Pokemon like Crustle, Golem, and Sawk can survive a hit thanks to their ability Sturdy and use their powerful attacks to knock out genesect.

**Bulky Pokemon with Fire coverage**: Some Pokemon like Porygon-Z, Meloetta and Mega-altaria can afford to run bulk for genesect and OHKO it back with either Hidden Power Fire or Fire Blast, meanwhile other Pokemon can outspeed and OHKO it, like Fire Punch Jirachi.
[CREDITS]

- Written by: [[DezShizzels, 449859]]
- Quality checked by: [[Alakazam, 276708], [<username2>, <userid2>]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>], [<username2>, <userid2>]]
-Takeover from: [[PA, 430787]]
 
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Copy-pasted my own QC from the old thread.
+Write up and ill check again yah

Red= Elo Bandit edits which I approved.
For you.

[OVERVIEW]

- Genesect’s high base Special Attack, coupled with Download and a plethora of strong offensive options such as Flash Cannon, Flamethrower, and Thunderbolt, make it a terrifying threat dealing with top-tier threats like Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Metagross, and Mega Gyarados.
- Genesect’s impressive Special Attack and [remove] decent speed tier allows it to run a Choice Scarf set which gives it many options against faster Pokemon like non-Choice Scarf Greninja and Garchomp with Fire coverage. You already mentioned the high SPA in the idea above, just remove it here. Maybe add that it can also run Specs since it can be bulked to live hits.
- Because of Genesect’s movepool, it is often troubled with deciding what coverage move it needs as it has many moves at its disposal.
"Because of Genesect's substantial movepool, it often has difficulty deciding which of its many coverage options is best."
- Additionally, Genesect’s severe weakness to Fire-types keeps it being as effective as possible, losing to popular threats like Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, and Victini.
"keeps it being as effective as possible" doesn't sound quite right. How about "Genesect’s severe weakness to Fire-types keeps it from beating its direct counters, popular threats like Mega Charizard X and Y, Heatran, and Victini."
- Pokemon with equal defenses such as Manaphy and Azumarill threaten it as they can invest in Special Defense to prevent Genesect from getting a Special Attack boost. Just mention that Download can be countered, like I'd reword and add Meloetta too.
- Moreover, it faces stiff competition with other Steel-types like Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross as they have more bulk and cover the metagame better.
"...Steel-types like Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross as they have more bulk and cover more threats in the metagame."

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Bug Buzz
move 2: Flash Cannon
move 3: Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
move 4: Ice Beam / Flamethrower
item: Choice Specs
ability: Download
nature: Modest
evs: 40 HP / 208 Def / 100 SpA / 160 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

- Bug Buzz and Flash Cannon are Genesect’s primary attacks. With Download and a Special Attack-boosting nature, it can deal with many non-resistant foes such as Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Slowbro, and Mega Metagross. I don't think non-resistant is the word, cause like it hits them super effectively.
- Thunderbolt is Genesect’s preferred coverage move on this set being able to handle Mega Gyarados.
- Ice Beam hits Garchomp and Landorus-T super effectively, which otherwise wall this set.
- Flamethrower can be run for opposing Steel-types like physically defensive Registeel and Durant. Eh, adding physical defense is useless. Steel-types is enough, add scizor.

Set Details
========

- 40 HP and 208 Def provide Genesect with good physical bulk, being able to survive a Close Combat from Choice Band Terrakion.
- 160 Speed EVs allows Genesect to outspeed Gyarados and Smeargle.
- The rest of the remaining EVs are invested into Special Attack to increase its offensive capabilities.
- Alternatively, Genesect can run 184 HP / 216 Def / 108 SpA with a Bold nature to tank a Giga Impact from Mega Pinsir; or, you can run a spread of 44 HP / 136 SpA / 144 SpD / 184 Spe with a Timid Nature to survive a Hyper Beam from Choice Specs Porygon-Z, 2HKO, and outspeed Porygon-Z.

Strategy & Support
========

- Avoid sending Genesect against stall Pokemon and special walls like Mega Sableye and Chansey as it doesn’t have the tools required to deal with them.
- It's best to not send Genesect against Mega Mawile in case they are running Metal Burst.
- Send Genesect out against other wallbreakers like Kyurem-B, Mega Gyarados, and Hoopa-U, as it can use its bulk to live their attacks and counteract with its respective moves. "...as it can use its bulk to survive their hits and counterattack."
- Try not to send Genesect out against faster offensive nukes, like Greninja, Victini, and Archeops, as they are faster and have enough firepower to break through it.
- There are many Pokemon that can lure Genesect in with their Fire-type coverage like HP Fire Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Meloetta, and Fire Blast Togekiss, so it should avoid them.
- Taunt Mega Gyarados is an excellent partner for this set as it can stop roadblocks in Genesect’s path including stall Pokemon like Chansey. In return, Genesect can handle other offensive Pokemon like Mega Gardevoir, Choice Specs Hoopa-U, Serperior, and Mega Diancie.
- Mega Charizard X complements Genesect well as it can deal with opposing Steel-types like Mega Mawile and Magnezone. In return, Genesect can handle deal with Water-types like Mega Gyarados and Azumarill.
- Mega Diancie pairs up well with Genesect because of its ability to handle one of Genesect’s biggest issues being Mega Sableye, and other Fire-types like Mega Charizard X and Y, Victini, and Heatran. In return, Genesect can handle Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus-T.
- Mega Diancie pairs up well with Genesect because of its ability to take on some of Genesect’s biggest counters, Mega Sableye and Fire-types like Mega Charizard X and Y, Victini, and Heatran. In return, Genesect can handle Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus-T.

[SET]
move 1: Flamethrower
move 2: Bug Buzz
move 3: Flash Cannon / Ice Beam
move 4: Ice Beam / Thunderbolt
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Download
nature: Modest
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========
Double check move order - should it match specs set with STABs first or emphasize fire coverage? Ye you should add STAB before. Flamethrower isn't that important to be first.
- Flamethrower tends to be excellent against opposing Steel-types like Mega Metagross, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor.
- Bug Buzz takes care of Psychic-types and Dark-types like Mega Slowbro, Greninja, and Hoopa-U, and Substitute users like Whimsicott and Deoxys-S.
- Flash Cannon is Genesect’s best option for dealing with Ice- and Fairy-types like Kyurem-B, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Diancie.
- Ice Beam covers Dragon- and Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus.
- Thunderbolt allows Genesect to take care of offensive Mega Gyarados and Talonflame.

Set Details
========

- Maximum Special Attack and Speed investment gives Genesect the optimal stats to take care of beat faster Pokemon like Greninja and Choice Band Garchomp.
- A Modest nature is preferred to increase the power behind Genesect’s special attacks in order to maximize Genesect's chances at 2HKOing Mega Slowbro, and running a Timid nature doesn’t help it cover any noteworthy threats. only helps versus niche threats like Adamant Scarf Garchomp.

Strategy & Support
========

- Try to avoid bulky and stall Pokemon like Mega Sableye, Mega Venusaur, and Chansey, as Choice Scarf Genesect’s damage output is lacking against them.
- Choice Scarf variants mainly rely on luring faster Pokemon that would normally beat it like Greninja and Garchomp with Fire-type coverage.
- It's best to not send Genesect against Mega Mawile in case they are running Metal Burst.
- Do not send Genesect against Sturdy Pokemon like Magnezone, Sawk, and Golem as they can all survive a hit and counteract it.
- Additionally, there is a vast majority of are many Pokemon which carry Fire-type coverage like HP Fire Choice Scarf Porygon-Z, Meloetta, Fire Blast Mega Altaria and Fire Punch Jirachi, so it should be cautious when approaching them.
- Ground- and Rock-types like Choice Band Garchomp, Mega Diancie, and Mega Tyranitar are great partners for this set, as it they can handle one of Genesect’s biggest issues counters being Mega Charizard X and Y imo just say Fire-types, because Genesect loses to all fire-types (Victini, Heatran...), two threats that are extremely common and detriment Genesect’s functionality ability to function well. In return, Genesect can assist them against some Water-types like Mega Gyarados and Greninja.
- Taunt Mega Gyarados is another excellent partner which creates a potent core with Genesect. Mega Gyarados adds additional offensive pressure against Dragonite, Mega Tyranitar, and Aegislash. Additionally, it can also lure several checks to Genesect, being Sturdy Pokemon and special walls like Magnezone, Sawk, and Golem. In return, Genesect can deal with Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir and Mega Diancie, and Grass-types like Ferrothorn and Serperior.
- Victini has very good synergy with Genesect because it can deal with opposing Steel-types and Psychic-types like Mega Mawile, Registeel, Meloetta, and Jirachi. In return, Genesect can deal with hits Ground-types like Garchomp and Landorus-T.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

- Genesect can run Douse Drive with Substitute for luring in Fire-types like Heatran, Golem, and having a chance of defeating Golem and Choice Band Crustle.
- Energy Ball can be run for dealing with neutral Water-types like Mega Swampert and Gastrodon.
- Iron Head can be used to improve Genesect's matchup against specially bulky fairies like HP Fire Mega Gardevoir and Fire Blast Mega Altaria. Maybe not Mega altaria.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Fire-types**: Fire-types such as Mega Charizard X and Y, Victini and Heatran, are the biggest threats to Genesect, as they can survive their its attacks and OHKO Genesect with a 4x super effective STAB move.

**Stall Pokemon**: Mega Sableye, Chansey, and Registeel can easily take Genesect’s attacks and counteract them by stalling it out or KOing it.

**Sturdy**: Pokemon like Crustle, Golem, and Sawk can survive a hit thanks to their ability Sturdy and use their powerful attacks to deal with it knock out Genesect.
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